2009-12-17, 08:11 | Link #1761 |
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KLGChaos - welcome in the "haters" group!. I know you're not a hater really, and you was wishing that this manga will turn into something good, like I did. But you needed a little bit more time (chapters) to understand that authors is a kind of troll...
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2009-12-17, 08:18 | Link #1762 | |
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2009-12-17, 08:27 | Link #1763 | |
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That's what annoys me... him not bringing anything up about Medaka Box even though its running in the Weekly Jump and sells well in the charts when you mention the volumes. |
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2009-12-17, 09:03 | Link #1764 |
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Seriously wanting Nisio to talk about Medaka Box is like wanting Tiger Woods to talk about his last golfing performance, noone cares, there's bigger things to talk about.
Also for his future plans for new Bake novels as well as the Zaregoto spinoff (the series that made him a light novel "god") is more important than MB. |
2009-12-17, 09:21 | Link #1765 | |
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My question is, what the hell is the point of making something if you don't care about it. It's just disrespectful to the fans.
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2009-12-17, 09:26 | Link #1766 | ||
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If noone is asking him about it (due to other things being more popular) why would he talk about it? Are these "interviews" even real ffs? I ted to think they would've made their way to the Bakemonogatari forum if they were... This is all the Nisio things from his own anime event (oh he should've talked about his manga at this anime event too yeah!) Quote:
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2009-12-17, 12:01 | Link #1769 |
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Medaka finishes the fight on her own after all. Her healing ability must be approaching Wolverine levels.
Well, nice to get this guy's reasons and back story. Plus we didn't have to waste an entire chapter on it like a certain other manga. I admit I wasn't expecting an all out slug fest between them both lol. Kubo waited a few years before his average writing turned into bad writing full of wall bangers. He captured the fan base for Bleach and he can apparently do all kinds of contradicting crap and still sell more than Reborn and Gintama. Granted Bleach has less of a stranglehold on the #3 spot ranking wise compared to earlier. No other WSJ mangaka is anywhere near Kubo in that regard. Not even Kishimoto. |
2009-12-17, 12:21 | Link #1770 | |
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Medaka Box is starting to get into the repetitive territory, which was one of my biggest fears. I kept predicting that every major battle will end up the same as the Unzen fight, and sure enough, it's followed that same pattern. There really isn't a need for any other character besides Medaka right now. Hell, despite what was said in the first chapter about her needing Zenkichi by her side, it's a complete load of crap from what we've been shown. I'll start believing it true when Zen leaves her side and she turns into a mess of goo or something... when I check up on it in about 30 chapters or so (if it lasts that long, which judging by tank sales, it might).
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2009-12-17, 14:04 | Link #1771 | |
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2009-12-17, 14:41 | Link #1772 | |
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Has whoever has been translating this started to hate it, too? The translations used to come out faster than they have been . . . |
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2009-12-17, 15:23 | Link #1774 | |
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2009-12-17, 18:52 | Link #1775 |
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Medaka going DBZ with Unzen was alright, it was the part where she went and pwned all the enforcer underlings before Zen and company could touch them that really made me rage. Even though Medaka did fall down and seemed like she couldn't fight, I don't know that this fight really set up a similar level of expectation that Zen-tachi would do something. I guess I can understand the feeling of having been trolled again, though.
Anyway, I think DJ Trouble's got the right idea. It's stuff like Hard Wrapping's ridiculous name, weird abilities like 'the weight of words', and crazy awesome stuff like dodging a car crash while inside the car (and taking this idea seriously) that Medaka Box has to offer. I still haven't touched anything of his aside from Medaka Box and Bakemonogatari, but from what I have seen so far there is something recognizably 'Nisio-esque' about Medaka Box's world and abilities and characters, and that's what is keeping me reading right now. |
2009-12-17, 23:02 | Link #1778 | |
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MB just makes it worse because the one character that gets any development at all, I don't really like, while the character I do gets none (or so little it might as well be), so it's doubly bad.
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2009-12-18, 08:26 | Link #1780 |
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I'm beginning to wonder if Nishio is really trying to beat the whole "if you try hard, you can do anything" cliche into our heads by using Medaka and Zen as examples. Just look at the way things are going:
Medaka, with her "try hard" attitude can do anything she wants. Meanwhile, Zenkichi, with the exception of a few rare incidents that involve protecting Medaka, has done pretty much everything in the manga half-heartedly. Examples: 1) Medaka's Stripping-- I can sort of sympathize with him on this one (who wouldn't want to see some big-breasted hot chick half-naked all the time?). However, if it really bothered him like it seems, he should do more than just argue with her about it a little and then drop it. Walk out, put a jacket on her, keep arguing. 2) The Swim Team arc-- During the first part, he just left the pool with Akune because he'd just get in the way. Didn't even bother trying and decided to let Medaka do all the work. When it came to the swim race, he'd rather argue with Akune than actually try to win. 3) The Unzen fight-- Never lifted a finger to even try and help Medaka, despite her being (supposedly) badly injured. 4) The Door of Rejection-- Didn't even try to get through. Considered it impossible right away. 5) Hard Wrapping fight-- See Unzen fight. Content sitting on the sidelines while Medaka fought. Never tried to help her outside of the initial pounce. I think she tells him to stay away at one point, but he should have said "Screw that" and helped her anyway. He just listened and gave up. 6) Understanding Medaka-- He said it himself-- he's never even tried to understand Medaka and still hasn't. If he really loves her, you think he'd put some effort into understanding her. 7) Dog retrieval-- Was going to just give up until Shiranui manipulated him into doing it (and then subsequently got eaten). 8) The Judo Fight-- Again, he went half-heartedly against Akune until Medaka stepped in. The only time Zen has ever "tried" at anything, were taking down the deliquent who ran against Medaka for the presidency, the final point in the Judo match when Medaka threatened to cry, and against King when he went after Medaka-- all to protect Medaka. When it comes to everything else, he just acts pathetic and doesn't even bother trying because he automatically assumes it's either impossible or not worth it.
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