Gundam Seed/Seed Destiny General Discussion Thread

[monster]

Originally Posted by weirdguy

Well, it seems weird that they didn't appear on the one on top. So the best explanation I can come up with is that that poll was for recent anime.

Another explanation is that, from time to time, there will be a surge of enough new characters that gained popularity temporarily to change the ranking, even the top 10.

The key is whether any of them has staying power.

Originally Posted by Tak

Heh, we been saying that for the last 10+ years...

SEED & DESTINY are possibly popular enough to eclipse the classics...

- Tak

Sure, but it's not just the CE series. That's the interesting part for me.

And while we're on the subject, at this point, with so many anime shows coming every year, not to mention every season, 10-12 years ago might as well be ancient times. I think that qualifies SEED and SEED Destiny to be considered part of the classics.

[Tak]

Originally Posted by monster

And while we're on the subject, at this point, with so many anime shows coming every year, not to mention every season, 10-12 years ago might as well be ancient times. I think that qualifies SEED and SEED Destiny to be considered part of the classics.

Bah, I am picking up oldies like:

Fist of the North Star, Mospeada, Southern Cross, Orguss, Votoms and re-watching the first Super Dimension Fortress Macross (for the Nth time).

Last year, I finished a marathon of Z, ZZ and re-watched Chars & Turn A (for the Nth time).

So if CE is classic, I wonder what those were?

Don't make me (re)watch Victory or G Gundam, it ain't happenin'

- Tak

[monster]

Originally Posted by Tak

So if CE is classic, I wonder what those were?

Just plain old.

[weirdguy]

Originally Posted by Tak

Bah, I am picking up oldies like:

Fist of the North Star, Mospeada, Southern Cross, Orguss, Votoms and re-watching the first Super Dimension Fortress Macross (for the Nth time).

Last year, I finished a marathon of Z, ZZ and re-watched Chars & Turn A (for the Nth time).

So if CE is classic, I wonder what those were?

Don't make me (re)watch Victory or G Gundam, it ain't happenin'

- Tak

I made a plan on re watching all the animated series released and I came upon Victory after going through Wing(surprised I was able to go through it again) 0079, Zeta, and ZZ. I just lost all willpower to continue on. I'm still wondering what Tomino was smoking when he wrote the episode with the bikini girls... G Gundam was fun the first time, but... I also really don't want to go through it again.

Anyways, I was going through the Destiny Remaster stuff, and found out that the blu ray included a cast talk. I was wondering if anyone had any idea what the seiyuus were talking about in the cast talks?

[Tak]

Originally Posted by weirdguy

G Gundam was fun the first time, but... I also really don't want to go through it again

Oh yeah, G Gundam was campy camp. Its also infinitely funnier if you are familiar with the Chinese novel counterpart that the manliest character in G Gundam, Mr. Asia, is based upon.

- Tak

[brightman]

Originally Posted by Tak

Oh yeah, G Gundam was campy camp. Its also infinitely funnier if you are familiar with the Chinese novel counterpart that the manliest character in G Gundam, Mr. Asia, is based upon.

- Tak

I think the Wikipedia article says it all...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dongfang_Bubai

[weirdguy]

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[shadow1296]

Originally Posted by weirdguy

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yep still on the top ten list has there ever been a time they weren't

[Bogart]

Wow. Over a decade old. Who are the people that buy that magazine?

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

Well, as for me, after all this time, telling people that "Kiracus are still on the top ten" is like telling people that the sun is still rising. It'll be more news-worthy when they stop being in it.

[monster]

Kira and Lacus aren't always in the top 10 anyway.

Originally Posted by weirdguy

And I though you guys would like to see who ranked on top of them too...

I guess that could be a fun little trivia to know if someone were to show what kind of characters would outrank them over time and how long those characters would hold those higher ranks.

But that's probably too much work.

As for me, my main interest in this particular ranking is that the #1 girl beat #2 girl. (I had the impression that people prefer #2 girl. Then again, going by people's reaction to Lacus, I should know better than to equate the interests of people at AnimeSuki with the interests of people who take these kinds of polls.)

[S.Freedom]

Originally Posted by weirdguy

And I though you guys would like to see who ranked on top of them too...

Well that would be off topic because the characters above them are those of other series and thus have no relation to Gundam Seed/Destiny. As such we'd have to do some gymnastics to keep on topic for the thread we're in.

If you'd posted this in some sort of general topics thread we could discuss that sort of thing to our hearts content. As it is we're already pretty off topic.

[Gundamx]

Originally Posted by weirdguy

And I though you guys would like to see who ranked on top of them too...

The problem isn't that. R_D seems to be taking this a little too personal. It's unusual for something like this to bother a person so much he/she has to complain about it. All R_D had to do was leave after a quick glance. But he instead stayed amd wasted even more time than he already has.

don't bother with Kira/Lacus hater

[Rising Dragon]

Originally Posted by Gundamx

don't bother with Kira/Lacus hater

My response had nothing to do with shipping. My response had everything to do with the frivolousness of the post.

[weirdguy]

Originally Posted by Gundamx

don't bother with Kira/Lacus hater

I don't even get bothered by SEED haters. Hate all they want. I don't care. But as Rising Dragon said, that's not what his post was about.

[n0m@n]

I actually liked Flay over the rest of the girls.
Lacus was potrayed as a perfect(too perfect) girl. Though I still like her.
Cagalli was too boyish(even though she was too emo).
Stellar was too retarded.

Flay had her issues, but that's what made her character stand out.
She was more of a good "daughter" than Lacus to be honest.
Flay using any method to save her dad. Lacus pretty much killed her dad by handing Freedom to Kira(and used her dad's death to get closer to him).



...If I think about it, all three girls lost their daddies during the series...

I really don't understand people that says Rayet's(Aldnoah.Zero) behavior is more acceptable than Flay(srsly wtf).

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

Originally Posted by n0m@n

I really don't understand people that says Rayet's(Aldnoah.Zero) behavior is more acceptable than Flay(srsly wtf).

Heh, I agree with you on that. Not only Rayet, the majority of characters in A.Z often think and act illogically (especially the Martians) that I swear the SEED characters are easily better than them simply because most of them think and act more like human beings . All in all, the writing in A.Z is just facepalm-inducing so far.

[monster]

Originally Posted by n0m@n

She was more of a good "daughter" than Lacus to be honest.
Flay using any method to save her dad. Lacus pretty much killed her dad by handing Freedom to Kira

Two different situations.

Flay had no involvement in her father's work while Lacus does. Flay loved her father and was willing to do (almost?) anything to keep him from dying while Lacus loved her father and was willing to risk (almost?) anything to fight for the ideals that she and her father shared, ideals which her father undoubtedly taught her.

They were both "good" daughters in their own way.

(and used her dad's death to get closer to him).

Wow, so cynical.

[n0m@n]

Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor

Heh, I agree with you on that. Not only Rayet, the majority of characters in A.Z often think and act illogically (especially the Martians) that I swear the SEED characters are easily better than them simply because most of them think and act more like human beings . All in all, the writing in A.Z is just facepalm-inducing so far.

Tbh, I don't feel a thing about any characters from A.Z besides Inaho. I do enjoy the series, but the characters hasnt build up inside me yet. Even if the princess did get killed by Raylet, I wouldnt have felt a thing.

Originally Posted by monster

Two different situations.

Flay had no involvement in her father's work while Lacus does. Flay loved her father and was willing to do (almost?) anything to keep him from dying while Lacus loved her father and was willing to risk (almost?) anything to fight for the ideals that she and her father shared, ideals which her father undoubtedly taught her.

They were both "good" daughters in their own way.

The first half was shown in the episodes so its correct.

But for the second part(underlined ones), those scenes were never shown. We don't know how much Lacus loved her father nor do we know if they shared exactly the same ideal. Well, Lacus represented the Clyne faction after Siegel's death so we can assume they had the same ideal.
But the problem is we didn't even see them talking to each other during the whole series(They appeared in the same scene but Siegel was talking to Maichio).

Wow, so cynical.

I was being sarcastic for that part of my post. So I didn't expect any serious reply from anyone

[monster]

Originally Posted by n0m@n

But the problem is we didn't even see them talking to each other during the whole series(They appeared in the same scene but Siegel was talking to Maichio).

Sure, but in that context of them being in the same room, it can be assumed that what we see is just a part of a bigger setting wherein Lacus could also interact with her father.

At any case, I don't really see a problem in the lack of such scenes. Unless there is any hint of a friction between the two, the expected interpretation is that they are a regular loving family. Additionally, Lacus being shown to grief over his death is more than enough to point that out (aside from any seriously cynical interpretation, which I feel is unwarranted in this case).