Campione!(カンピオーネ!) [Light Novel]

[azziz]

Originally Posted by Chris38

Anything is possible, as long as this "suspected ability" has even the slightest relation to the attribute of steel that the King of the end.

At this point in time, we just don't have enough information to be able to discern ... what kind of abilities he is going to have.

it is untrue to say we know nothing of the ability of the king of the end:the author used sun wu kong in his battle against the three campiones to give us a glimpse of what the strongest [steel] is capable of:
1.first,when and only when he's faced with more than one campione,his magical power increase drastically,above that of athena or any other heretic god he met(that's how he imprisoned lu hao after her fight with godou or sumoned his two subordinate gods).
2.when he was about to be sent flying above the atmosphe,he fusioned with his two sworn brother in order to use his trump card;here's and extrait of what guenewere said in vol.7 prologue:"when the great sage called upon the power to defeat devil kings and bring salvation to the world,i actually tough it might actually be possible[...]though imcomplete the great sage managed to make skillful use of it"
frome those two points we can deduce two thingsn one hand,teaming up against him,for campiones,isn't a good idea,it will just make him stronger and he must have subordinate god on his own;on the other hand he possess a special skill that,unlike SGK,he can probably use alone,without help but i don't know if we should call it a devil king slaying authority ?

[alviam099]

Vol.13's Afterword confirms that it's a Campione.

There's also the fact that the author or at least zzhk's translation is pretty clear when you distinguish gods and godslayers.

Just as the Witch Queen and the war god headed towards the Bousou Sea again, the god-slayers were restlessly biding their time.

Even if it is a god that kills other god, the author still points it out as a god. And the Campiones were referred as god-slayers.

1.first,when and only when he's faced with more than one campione,his magical power increase drastically,above that of athena or any other heretic god he met(that's how he imprisoned lu hao after her fight with godou or sumoned his two subordinate gods).

The only reason Luo Hao was imprisoned easily was because Godou and Luo Hao were both exhausted in their fight and Sun Wukong just came and did it.

[kazzuya13]

Originally Posted by alviam099

There's also the fact that the author or at least zzhk's translation is pretty clear when you distinguish gods and godslayers.


Even if it is a god that kills other god, the author still points it out as a god. And the Campiones were referred as god-slayers.



The only reason Luo Hao was imprisoned easily was because Godou and Luo Hao were both exhausted in their fight and Sun Wukong just came and did it.

Remember in volume 3 where verethragna was described as the "god-slaying" god.

[blackwhite67]

Originally Posted by Chris38

Anything is possible, as long as this "suspected ability" has even the slightest relation to the attribute of steel that the King of the end.

At this point in time, we just don't have enough information to be able to discern ... what kind of abilities he is going to have.

I'm more wondering about ... the kind of excuse that Godou is going to use, to explain another of his long disappearance's from home ... since if this continues ... I fear that the "little sister" is finally going to snap ... and try to do a more through investigation of what her "brother" is actually doing ... which will ... eventually cause her to become involved with the magic world and the other things that are related with that...

If she ever learns anything then they can just neuralyze her. Problem solved.

[kazzuya13]

Originally Posted by blackwhite67

If she ever learns anything then they can just neuralyze her. Problem solved.

You mean what they did to Sakura and Fuyuhime.

[Yami no Ou]

Originally Posted by blackwhite67

If she ever learns anything then they can just neuralyze her. Problem solved.

I don't think Godou will let that

[Chris38]

Originally Posted by Yami no Ou

I don't think Godou will let that

True he might not be happy that his sister's memory is going to be wiped out, but on the other hand, I doubt that he would Shizuka to be involved with his life as a Campione ... and the dangers that are related with it.

In other words there is not a straight anwser to this question, which is why I think it would be a pretty intresting situation if something like that ... actually occured in the novels.

[Fujiwara]

just finished express-reading Campione vol.1-13 (yeah all of them) at BT (kudos for all the translators )
compared to other light novels of the same theme, Campione is average, but "King of The End" and Takatsuki-san massive historical references just make me want to read more

a little of my 2-cents about the identity of King of The End (which could be very much wrong, or has been mentioned somewhere in this vast 300 pages thread)

hero involved in argonauts
somewhow related with the scythians/sarmatians

would it be hercules then? he is very much steel IMO
however it still find it hard to relate his legends (ie. his 12 labors), to any asian counterparts - (I'm not really knowledgeable about asian histories & legends aside of epoch like ROTK, Mahabharata and Ramayana which I'm an avid fan of)

maybe his labor of killing 9-headed hydra is somehow prototype for susanoo killing 8-headed yamata-no-orochi? (yeah Hercules did kill Hydra with a Scythe, and Susanoo killed orochi with Kusanagi/grass cutter) but susanoo is already in the story!

what do you guys think?



then again... if hercules as a heretic god is to face godou it would be interesting, because at least three/four of verethragna incarnation won't works due to the former successful 12 labors: Boar (Erymanthian Boar), Raptor (Stymphalian Birds), Bull (Cretan Bull, which is very much remind me of Gascoigne King Minos), Stallion (Mares of Diomedes)

[Hidfe]

Originally Posted by Fujiwara

would it be hercules then? he is very much steel IMO

Godou already met and defeated Hercules. Melqart is made of Hercules, Baal and a few other stories.

[OverNOut]

^ Wasn't that a draw

[Hidfe]

Originally Posted by OverNOut

^ Wasn't that a draw

Well technically but Melqart is only ectoplasm and can not do anything for years while Godou is just fine.

[OverNOut]

^ All thanks to the Ram.

[Yami no Ou]

yes thats thanks to the Ram,but still its one of Godou's authority after all so he pretty much defeated Melqart

[Chris38]

Personally I think that the King of the End is going to be a heretic god that could be atributted to various difrennt myths, which would reduce the effectivness of [The Sword].

As for what kind of myths he is going to be connected with ... obviously with someone who has the traits of a hero, and pretty much any myth has someone like that.

Still, it's probably going to take some time, before we will know the full details about the King of the End ... since, Godou ... in my opinion, still hasn't reached a level where he would become, a worthy oponent for the King of the End.

[ser4]

I just went to BT and sow the name of vol 14 apperantly there would be an 8th Campione :O. Any theories on who it might be? Erica is on the cover so maybe she becomes a campione?

[azziz]

Originally Posted by ser4

I just went to BT and sow the name of vol 14 apperantly there would be an 8th Campione :O. Any theories on who it might be? Erica is on the cover so maybe she becomes a campione?

first time i've heard of it
seriously...

[Ultragunner]

Nope, the "new' Campione should be a guy as zzhk has posted previously

[Chris38]

Originally Posted by ser4

I just went to BT and sow the name of vol 14 apperantly there would be an 8th Campione :O. Any theories on who it might be? Erica is on the cover so maybe she becomes a campione?

Most likely the 8th Campione is going to be Godou himself ... due to the fact that the newly intoduced Campione is ... going to be someone who survived a confronation against the King of the End ... in other words Godou's senpai.

If you want to see the most likely candidate for the "new" Campione ... you just need to look in one of BT forums about Campione, where I have seen the link to the official Campione site - which, from what I remember, has also been posted, a few pages ago in this thread.

[Grave_digger]

Originally Posted by Chris38

Personally I think that the King of the End is going to be a heretic god that could be atributted to various difrennt myths, which would reduce the effectivness of [The Sword].

As for what kind of myths he is going to be connected with ... obviously with someone who has the traits of a hero, and pretty much any myth has someone like that.

Still, it's probably going to take some time, before we will know the full details about the King of the End ... since, Godou ... in my opinion, still hasn't reached a level where he would become, a worthy oponent for the King of the End.

well that's pretty true, godou is more or less capable but he pretty weak against trick type and long battle.(like with alec he just dodge and dodge coz he didn't really try to defeat godou).BTW his skill with ama no murakumo in vol 13 can be used repeatedly right ? not one time skill ? and i still wonder why he didn't get an authority against lancelot.

8th godslayer eh,personally i would have godou to stand his own first until the birth of the next godslayer.he seem wild which i welcomed coz there is no wild godslayer yet (only in looks,all godslayer is wild ).i wonder if he have some connection to lady aisha.

[Endscape]

Originally Posted by Chris38

Personally I think that the King of the End is going to be a heretic god that could be atributted to various difrennt myths, which would reduce the effectivness of [The Sword].

As for what kind of myths he is going to be connected with ... obviously with someone who has the traits of a hero, and pretty much any myth has someone like that.

Still, it's probably going to take some time, before we will know the full details about the King of the End ... since, Godou ... in my opinion, still hasn't reached a level where he would become, a worthy oponent for the King of the End.

In actuality, Taketsuki has dropped quite a few hints about the King of the End's identity. Godou himself has spoken his name, if my theory is correct.

Spoiler for King of the End:

Batraz is his true identity.

In Vol.6, when Godou was using the Golden Sword on Sun Wukong, he mentioned Batraz training in a dragon's graveyard.

"In one of the former lands of the Scythians, the Caucasus, the legend of the hero Batraz still remains. For the sake of training, the hero cast himself into a fiery furnace during his youth.

The fiery furnace where he chose to train in the scorching heat was the place where dragons were slain and corpses were incinerated. In the end, having his body burned by the scorching flames, Batraz jumped into the sea to cool down, and thus completed his training. As a result, he obtained an immortal body."

In Vol.9, when Guinivere was preparing Excalibur for Lancelot, she mentioned the ashes of a dragon's skeleton.

"More dazzling than gold, more pristine than silver, that is what you are. Born from the ashes of the dragon's skeleton is the dragon-slaying steel. That is what you are!"

Batraz is a hero of Sarmatian folklore, which explains the connection to Lancelot.

The connection to the Argonauts is also explainable, since Colchis is actually situated in Georgia, which is around the same territory as the Sarmatians and Scythians. Plus, there is a legend in the Nart saga of a hero, Sybaelc, who went through a similar experience as Jason.