2011-03-11, 19:05 | Link #161 | |
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You know, like all of the weird holographic stuff she has in her apartment in this timeline? If she's able to gain obscure information on Witches, it would be a walk in the park for her to track down active Magical Girls. I'm reeeally not a big proponent of the whole "the timelines just randomly diverge regardless of Homura's involvement" theory. It completely goes against the point of Homura repeatedly resetting things so she can save Madoka herself. Last edited by Hagoshod; 2011-03-11 at 19:52. |
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2011-03-14, 00:53 | Link #163 | |
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In the current timeline, it's also QB who told Kyoko to take over the city after Mami's got killed in episode 3 |
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2011-03-14, 01:50 | Link #164 | |
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TL5 Kyoko didn't want to attack them while Mami does attack them.So was some sort of agreement reached or did TL3 Kyoko have a different mentality?
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2011-03-14, 02:17 | Link #165 |
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I think there is an agreement reached. It's "Kyoko VS Mami, Homura, Madoka, and Sayaka". No matter how much hot blood in Kyoko's veins, I don't think she can win againts 4 mahou shoujo. So I think it's quite logical for Kyoko to give up on her policy in order to make new friends and prevent harm to herself.
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2011-03-20, 10:23 | Link #166 |
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One thing that bothers me is how Kyoko is even able to make a sacrificial attack. Normally all Puella Magi powers and outfits disappear the moment the Soul Gem shatters. Kyoko's Soul Gem completely shattered, yet she was still staring down Oktavia for the final attack.
It doesn't make sense why Kyoko is alive without a Soul Gem. If Kyoko meant to do a suicide attack, why couldn't the studio have made her Soul Gem only crack, then completely shatter after the attack was over? |
2011-03-20, 10:39 | Link #167 |
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I think it was pretty normal. A split second passed between the shatter scene and the explosion. The magic power Kyoko loaded up on her spear was unleashed the moment the Soul Gem shattered due to going over her own limits. We don't even see how she was still alive, we only saw that when the SG shattered, the power was automatically released and thus caused the explosion. To what extend Kyoko deliberately launched the initial attack (see Mami who shot a gun the instant she was shot by Madoka and died) if at all is questionable, we'd have to understand how her magic worked which we'll never be able to.
And it would make even less sense to let the SG shatter after the attack, because the SG would have probably shattered during the attack due to the explosion. Or not make less sense but it'd be just... stupid. Have your SG shattered to launch an attack or launch an attack and have your SG shattered inbetween? I think the former is more noble and feels less like a suicide than a sacrifice.
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2011-03-20, 14:16 | Link #168 | |
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The soul gem destruction *was* the attack. This is the equivalent of the shonen staple of burning through your life force for 1 final strike before you die. |
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2011-03-20, 14:22 | Link #169 | |
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2011-03-22, 20:13 | Link #170 | |
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I personally believe they did just not in detail.
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2011-03-24, 07:14 | Link #171 | |
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Although I like to think she lived long enough to see the blast take them both out. Targeting the gem as well was her suicide.
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2011-04-24, 13:00 | Link #172 | |
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I think that Sayaka was pretty much a fully trained magical girl before she died, as this is reflected in Kyouko talking about how Sayaka had finally become her friend. It's interesting to me that not only is Sayaka doomed to die, but Kyouko also appears doomed to lament it each and every time. I guess that's something for Kyouko/Sayaka shippers to take some solace in. The two appear destined to meet, and become close.
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2011-04-29, 14:31 | Link #175 | |
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All this is mostly moot, of course, since Kyoko is by far better. Just sayin', is all. |
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2011-04-30, 00:31 | Link #176 | |
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honestly, i think mami x kyouko is the one that has a chance now. i like kyouko x sayaka, but after seeing the events at the finale, i realized i like seeing kyouko x mami more. LOL. |
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2011-04-30, 09:49 | Link #177 | |
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So yes I can see it...I just wish I knew why the two split up.
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2011-04-30, 10:00 | Link #178 |
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Difference in philosophies, most likely. This may not cause them to split up in the new timeline, depending on how the whole system works. If Kyoko doesn't feel the need to allow demons to harvest humans and such, then she'd probably be able to get along with Mami just fine.
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2011-04-30, 10:39 | Link #179 | ||
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Mami x Kyouko would pour Morning Rescue on hearts of those who felt sorry for her being alone. But don't get your hopes up - it will be a matter of several chapters before Kyouko can't stand the memories and follows suit, with Sayaka's name on her lips. It will be so sweet and so tragic. And so Trollobuchi to us readers. |
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2011-04-30, 10:50 | Link #180 |
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I'm not sure of an exact quote saying that, but Sayaka says something to a similar effect during their fight in episode 5 (around the same time she spouts off about, "Puella Magi like Mami being the rare ones."
In all fairness, she was probably right. |
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