2007-10-18, 18:46 | Link #101 |
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I dunno but a sneak attack from behind from the back at 0 percent yoki release is different from a sneak + trick attack from the front at 80-90ish? percent yoki release?
lol besides have you ever even watched saint seiya? They only have 1 or 2 move and they just keep doing it over and over till it works. Only difference in their attack is how much they burn their comos. What generosity? lol if youre talking about what you said about not getting me caught up in the arguement or not then dont worry about it cuz like I said I just state my points and I pretty much stop at some point when it repeats itself. Like how gooral said he'll stop the teresa vs prissy debate except I dont take as long to stop lol. Last edited by Sassarai; 2007-10-18 at 19:15. |
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Yeah, but yet, there are more characters to be evaluated.
The list of relevant and remaining characters would be: Riful, Easley, Rigardo and Luciela for awakened beings. Tabitha, Cynthia, Yuma, Claris, Nina, Audrey, Rachel and Miata for Claymores. Correct me if I'm missing someone or something. Quote:
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And that guy is an awakened being, in terms of manipulation, he has (or should have) the advantage. Aside from that, he was an unknown number of a male generation of Claymores and as stated by Easley, an expendable one. While Galatea is the #3 of seventh-eighth generation, and could (arguably) defeat Duff, who was the number #3 of the first male generation. I still think she owns him. ------------------------ Quote:
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A partially awakened Claymores is a Claymore who crossed the limit line where all the mixed sensations of pleasure, ecstasy, pain and suffering, along with all the yoki released were going to carry her to become an AB, but somehow, she managed to stop all this process and get back. The same thing happens with the twins, the difference is that they go to the very end, and fully awaken (releasing all their yoki and potential at that moment), and then, after that, they come back with the support of the non-awakened twin. And after going back, like any partially awakened Claymore, they get stronger in most of their traits. So, next time they were going to awake, they would be even more powerful awakened beings. (as stated by Riful) Nearly unlimited powers are possible, in this theory. But it is all a theory, and it could be just wrong. Mangakas know how to break our legs when we are happy. I'm just making the interpretation of the facts stated and calculating the possibilities. But every time I think about these twins, I don't know if they should be considered Claymores or really awakened beings. It's a tenuous line that separate a Claymore from an awakened being, I guess. * Beth is included, her stats are indentical to Alicia, this is a strong hint, I guess. And while Rubel was talking with Galatea about the twins, he said that as long as there is one twin to support the other, it's possible to maintain the consciousness and even get back. This implies that their position could be changed, and Beth could awaken too. And it makes much sense if we think in the possibility of Alicia somehow getting seriously injured. She could at least focus while Beth is in her awakened form. Last edited by Fate_Archer; 2007-10-18 at 21:23. Reason: adding a few things |
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2007-10-18, 20:03 | Link #103 |
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Ah! Those be FIGHTIN' WORDS right there!! Wanna go at it, wanna-be #4 ranked Male Claymore!? XDD
...for some odd reason, the image of Ash's Pikachu and Clare overlapped in my head. *eyes the Coke warily* Before I am written off as being crazy, let me elaborate a bit... If you watched the first seasons of Pokemon, (...and I know most of you all did!) You should remember the Pikachu vs Raichu battle and the subject of 'forcing' Pikachu to evolve into a Raichu to continue fighting. Several interesting bits showed up while thinking of the Partially Awakened bit and the terms of the power jump from Claymore to Awakened. While the Raichu was overwhelmingly stronger in terms of voltage and physical strength, it lacked a lot of other attacks that it could only gain as a Pikachu because it was forced to evolve rather quickly. So while Raichu was stronger, Pikachu had learned all its capabilities including its quick attacks that allowed it to overwhelm Raichu at the end. (What good is hitting power when you can't make contact?) And as those who watched Pokemon would know, Ash's Pikachu was crazy strong - taking out opponents that normally would have no buisness losing to an electrical rodent. Now if that Pikachu would FINALLY evolve into a Raichu...scary world. Now, put Clare in Pikachu's place...XD *finishes off Coke* ... something was weird about this one after all...
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2007-10-18, 22:55 | Link #105 |
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You write too much... 0.o ... *points* You have not let the siren song of fanfiction fade from your mind have you!?
As for me...*wearing headphones* Yes, Pikachu's very scary... I was thinking about comparing them to Bleach characters but... yeah right. *throws last Coke out* ... tomorrow night ... back to root beer. For Duph vs Galatea...it's a pretty even fight all things considered. Both are/were ranked #3's, and while one specializies in offensive power and defensive toughness, the other specializes in mental aplitude, mind games, and a cool head. But overall, Duph IS an Awakened one so in the end, he'll come out on top - it's the way it goes. One-on-one, there's no way Galatea could win. Now, make it Duph vs Galatea/Ophelia or Rafalea or probably even Miria - Duph's ass is grass. You need at least two people to tackle Duph head-on - he's very good when he's focused on an enemy but usually it's only one at a time - that's his real weakness. Irene's arm is just naturally stronger (amputated elf limbs have +5 dex) so in all likelyhood, Clare's Windcutter is stronger than Flora's at this point. Comparing a #2 to a #8 is just not fair - I mean, look how badly Irene messed up #4 Ophelia inside a few seconds.
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2007-10-19, 07:44 | Link #109 |
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Partial awakening increases only Claymore stats not awakened. So it doesn't matter if you awaken after 5 years or 10, the end result will be still the same. What's so great about partial awakening is that claymore's gain more power but their still themselves - humans.
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2007-10-19, 08:01 | Link #110 | |
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You do not need a forensic team to tell that those Yoma parts belonged to an AB, consider the mass and quality difference, especially from a bunch of guys who work with Yoma flesh as part of there profession. Teresa's excuse was incrediably flimsy, and both she and Orsay knew it, but Orsay did not care at the time, they had more work to do, but it was obvious from the look he gave Teresa that he did not believe one word of it. Quote:
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2007-10-19, 10:14 | Link #118 |
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I dont think Riful knows whether if Claymores are going to be strong or weak. She tortured many Claymores and made them turn into ABS. Then she took a stab at it and she guessed that only low rank Claymores make strong ABS since all the high rank ones were pretty weak. So my guess is that she thinks that if they become stronger Claymores they might become powerful ABs o_O. That make sense lol?
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I got quite the opposite impression actually. Riful did not even care about lower ranked Claymores, as proven by Katea, and she only wanted higher ranked ones, like Jean. Her sudden change of tune came when she layed eyes on the half-awakened Clare, she obviously saw something there. Perhaps the potential to grow outside the normal limits of power? Jean also managed to come back from the brink, from the very edge so to speak, and this peaked Riful's interest even more. So naturally Riful was interested in seeing the outcome of allowing these unique individuals grow, and to someday awaken them. ------------------------------------ Quote:
"You finally did it. I knew this day would come" His statment makes it obvious that he was suspicious of Teresa for a while. Her answer was also not plausible at all, how the hell would normal Yoma even touch her? the Organization, even if not accurately, knew Teresa's power level, normaly Yoma couldn't scratch her. Quote:
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Clare in Rabona became an AB she would have very likely been completely different then Pieta Clare becoming an AB. The only real changes in this time are Clare's partial-awakenings, thus we can guesstimate that the partial-awakening = more powerful AB, as Riful stated.
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