Gundam Build Fighters Try (Second Season) - General Discussion

[Rising Dragon]

Though I don't have a source, the Denial Gundam's model number, NK-13J, apparently stands for "Nidaime Kawaguchi", with Nidaime meaning "Second".

EDIT: the Gundam Amazing Red Warrior comes with stickers displaying the initials "SK", which are supposed to stand for Sandaime (Third) Kawaguchi, which lends credence to the Denial Gundam indeed being the one made by the second Meijin.

[Tactics]

SK also exists for Red Warrior in Plamo Kyoshiro too, but stand for Shiro Kyoda instead of Sandaime Kawaguchi.
Seems like the reason why staffs decide to gave Red Warrior to Tatsuya, as the red color fit his Char theme (three times faster) while SK could also stand for Sandaime Kawaguchi.

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Red Warrior from the past

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At first I thought NK in Denial series number refer to NAOKI as he said Denial is his first original Gundam;
But with SK could stand for Sandaime Kawaguchi, NK stand for Nidaime Kawaguchi does make sense while J at the end of NK-13J maybe referring Junya who customized it into his personal unit.

Originally Posted by Knight_SV

I don't see any resemblence with hi-nu head

Normal Hi-Nu yes, but Hi-Nu Vrabe (they're designed by same person after all ...)

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Denial

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Hi-Nu Vrabe

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[Blazer-X]

Originally Posted by Tactics

Normal Hi-Nu yes, but Hi-Nu Vrabe (they're designed by same person after all ...)

Well, this explains why I kept thinking it looked Hi-Nu-ish. Probably been thinking on the resemblance for the Vrabe design instead of vanilla Hi Nu.

[pampz21]

Originally Posted by Tactics

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Denial

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Hi-Nu Vrabe

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I didnt catch Denial Gundam; where is he base? From the looks of it; its base from Freedom.

[Tactics]

I didn't see Freedom used by overall looks.

Come to think about it, maybe this is how to define the difference between national-level and world-level builder in GBFT.

National-level builders units is a customized normal with high build stats (Enact used by Miyaga);
When it's a completely customized units, you could still notice what gunpla used as a base (Lightning is Re-GZ, Tryon 3 is ZZ).

World-level builders units is a customized normal with maxed build stats and maybe different weapon set (Amazing Red Warrior);
When it's a completely customized units, it's hard to say what gunpla used as a base since they may scratch overall parts used (Build Burning, Denial).

IMO though ...

[Patriot's Blade]

so ever since the first season, we sort of blink & miss Plamo Kyoshiro character cameos right? i want to see the return of putting a VOTOMS to an MS fight, probably out of scale too

[pampz21]

Originally Posted by Tactics

I didn't see Freedom used by overall looks.

Come to think about it, maybe this is how to define the difference between national-level and world-level builder in GBFT.

National-level builders units is a customized normal with high build stats (Enact used by Miyaga);
When it's a completely customized units, you could still notice what gunpla used as a base (Lightning is Re-GZ, Tryon 3 is ZZ).

World-level builders units is a customized normal with maxed build stats and maybe different weapon set (Amazing Red Warrior);
When it's a completely customized units, it's hard to say what gunpla used as a base since they may scratch overall parts used (Build Burning, Denial).

IMO though ...

I kinda get what you mean.

[Skye629]

Originally Posted by Tactics

I didn't see Freedom used by overall looks.

Come to think about it, maybe this is how to define the difference between national-level and world-level builder in GBFT.

National-level builders units is a customized normal with high build stats (Enact used by Miyaga);
When it's a completely customized units, you could still notice what gunpla used as a base (Lightning is Re-GZ, Tryon 3 is ZZ).

World-level builders units is a customized normal with maxed build stats and maybe different weapon set (Amazing Red Warrior);
When it's a completely customized units, it's hard to say what gunpla used as a base since they may scratch overall parts used (Build Burning, Denial).

IMO though ...

It changes as the years go on, as time progresses and tech gets better, the units become much more customized or high spec (in many cases)

For example Sei's dad, who placed second in the world level with a good ol' RX-78-2

[Tactics]

Originally Posted by Skye629

HGBFT Denial Gundam confirmed

Along with HGBFT The End

I already saw it.

The End totally stole the spotlight compare to other HGBF screenshots for me.
The End looks impressive with it's cloak folded and dual revolver; I hope final match between Yuuma and Adou will be great.

[aeriolewinters]

Could The End mean that.... an HGAW Deathscythe is on the horizon?

[monster]

Originally Posted by aeriolewinters

Could The End mean that.... an HGAW Deathscythe is on the horizon?

And take away some of the spotlight? I don't think they would do that so soon.

(Wait, there hasn't been an HG Deathscythe?)

[Laevatein]

Originally Posted by monster

And take away some of the spotlight? I don't think they would do that so soon.

(Wait, there hasn't been an HG Deathscythe?)

There kit of the EW Deathscythe Hell Custom was HG, and I think there's been an MG, but no HG of the original Deathscythe to my knowledge.

[Skye629]

Originally Posted by Tactics

I already saw it.

The End totally stole the spotlight compare to other HGBF screenshots for me.
The End looks impressive with it's cloak folded and dual revolver; I hope final match between Yuuma and Adou will be great.

Didnt I post this elsewhere?

Originally Posted by monster

And take away some of the spotlight? I don't think they would do that so soon.

(Wait, there hasn't been an HG Deathscythe?)

Nope

Originally Posted by Laevatein

There kit of the EW Deathscythe Hell Custom was HG, and I think there's been an MG, but no HG of the original Deathscythe to my knowledge.

Correct

The only HGAC kits out there atm are Wing Gundam and Wing Zero

[Skye629]

So thats the original design huh?

[Patriot's Blade]

so as in the line art getting rejected by the anime staff or that's its original form from the manga something before getting upgraded?

[Tactics]

Design from manga, I guess, since Denial's page in GBFT website said Denial used by Junya is not the real Denial, but a modified Denial to fit his CQC battle style.

No particle frame installed yet during it's first appearance, those who predicted Junya is inspired by Sei's usage of Build Burning seems got their guess right.

[Skye629]

Originally Posted by DRAGUN H.E.X.

so as in the line art getting rejected by the anime staff or that's its original form from the manga something before getting upgraded?

Thats how its going to appear in the A manga according to the source

So thats its original completed form

[Patriot's Blade]

Originally Posted by Tactics

Design from manga, I guess, since Denial's page in GBFT website said Denial used by Junya is not the real Denial, but a modified Denial to fit his CQC battle style.

No particle frame installed yet during it's first appearance, those who predicted Junya is inspired by Sei's usage of Build Burning seems got their guess right.

Originally Posted by Skye629

Thats how its going to appear in the A manga according to the source

So thats its original completed form

it sorta makes sense in a way a certain original scratch build gunpla comes in limited numbers instead being a cartoonish way of being a one of a kind unit, it has a copies of the original unit, depends on the builder whether he/she wanted to make them as a separate unit or spare parts, hence probably the multiple Denial Gundams used by different people,

so the Build Burning parts that Sei gave to Yuuma can also count as a complete separate unit right? it looks like it has everything to make another Build Burning Gundam,

which makes me wonder what's the point of Sei sealing the Build Burning in a Dom & hide it in the trophy in the name of moving on from Reiji in the first place, considering he could build another one out of nowhere if you give him the materials & let the power of his infinite imagination do the magic.

[Skye629]

Originally Posted by DRAGUN H.E.X.

it sorta makes sense in a way a certain original scratch build gunpla comes in limited numbers instead being a cartoonish way of being a one of a kind unit, it has a copies of the original unit, depends on the builder whether he/she wanted to make them as a separate unit or spare parts, hence probably the multiple Denial Gundams used by different people,

so the Build Burning parts that Sei gave to Yuuma can also count as a complete separate unit right? it looks like it has everything to make another Build Burning Gundam,

which makes me wonder what's the point of Sei sealing the Build Burning in a Dom & hide it in the trophy in the name of moving on from Reiji in the first place, considering he could build another one out of nowhere if you give him the materials & let the power of his infinite imagination do the magic.

Thats assuming though the Second built spare parts, given his philosophy I doubt it though

As for Sei, we have no idea whether the parts were already made, or whether he cooked them up last minute for Yuuma

As for sealing the BB, what else would he do with it? He's obviously not going to trash it, so he locked it up in a particularly special trophy in the hopes that maybe Reiji would return there one day in search for him (even if he was not in japan, as is the case now)

[Nvis]

Is build burning a totally new Gunpla or his Star Build remade into BB?

What's it called now? Star Cosmos/Universe Build Strike?