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View Poll Results: Critique of Episode 43 | |||
10 out of 10: Near Perfect... | 1 | 2.86% | |
9 out of 10: Excellent... | 2 | 5.71% | |
8 out of 10: Very Good... | 9 | 25.71% | |
7 out of 10: Good... | 11 | 31.43% | |
6 out of 10: Average... | 3 | 8.57% | |
5 out of 10: Below Average... | 4 | 11.43% | |
4 out of 10: Poor... | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10: Bad... | 2 | 5.71% | |
2 out of 10: Very Bad... | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10: Torturous... | 3 | 8.57% | |
Voters: 35. You may not vote on this poll |
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2012-08-08, 15:55 | Link #121 |
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Not even close, he's at least somewhat competent. I'd put him in about the same bracket as say Kou Uraki, Usso Ebbing or Shiro Amada. Good natural pilot, but kind of bumbling when it comes to the simpler things like not being manipulated by women intentionally or not such that he handicaps his own abilities.
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2012-08-08, 16:20 | Link #122 | |
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Kou didn't stop killing people or go full retard because he fell inlove with Nina, if anything, he tried harder. See: Plate full of carrots and pumping himself full of drugs to pilot the GP03. Uso never stopped fighting, he was naive, but not to the point that Kio is, He did spare Katejina in the end though. And not to mention Uso is one of the MC's that lost the most teammates throughout any Gundam show (Not counting Jamil from Gundam X) Shiro never stopped fighting, infact he understood that he had to pull the trigger. Example: No-Bra-Zaku-1-Girl, Norris. Kio is the least competent Main character we've ever had in Gundam sofar. Hell, even Shinn was more competent than Kio. |
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2012-08-08, 16:37 | Link #123 | |
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Though I know you'll see it differently somehow given your more than obvious position on all things AGE which is very well established by this point. |
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2012-08-08, 17:47 | Link #125 |
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Omg.. I forgot Shinn... He actually competes with Katz in stupidity, but Kio is annoying right now
What are Kio'c crimes this far... giving dangerous data to enemy forces dangering whole eath forces just to push one girl's life for few days, girl who he barely knew. He also added confusion to battlefield by not even trying to eliminate enemies, but instead of that spreading his own personal propaganda, which was completely groundless since he don't have even power to control his crazy grandpa not to mention whole earth forces... If Kio had any brains, he would join to his farhers pirates. And fight instead of talking nonsense.
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2012-08-08, 18:01 | Link #126 | |
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How did he add confusion to the battlefield? Unlike Kira who just goes after all sides, Kio was still fighting for the EF, and he was the one opening up a path for the rest of the EF forces, the only difference is he wasn't outright killing the enemy pilots, but he was still taking out their mobile suits. The cockpit by itself is harmless. As for controlling Flit, he kept him from shooting a disabled Zeheart and Fram in the back, if that's not controlling Flit, idk what is.
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2012-08-08, 18:54 | Link #127 |
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Yeah I don't really see how he added confusion to the battlefield anymore than someone like Girard who to me is more deserving of that distinction for trying to shoot her own allies in a fit of mad rage. He was still trying to complete his mission, just not have to kill anyone during it. It's not like he left the enemies with their weapons intact so that they could shoot his team in the back going down after all. If he had done that I'd be like wtf.
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2012-08-09, 00:19 | Link #128 | ||||
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No, Kio stopped fighting his last 2 opponents, Fram and Girard when Girard was going full on retard attacking everyone just like stella was just to put that reference to shinn, while shinn stopped attacking her because he knew her, Kio never bothered to attack Girard to begin with. Quote:
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2012-08-09, 12:23 | Link #130 | |
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Problem is Kio almost cancels out any benefit he brings. Opens a path by taking out grunts and then proceeds to spend two episodes getting his rear kicked around by Fram and Girard. At best he was guarding himself and thus forcing others to come in and help him.
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2012-08-09, 12:47 | Link #131 | ||
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Kio doesn't cancel out anything, he's still fighting and trying to complete their objectives, just not in the way some of you might like. Right now he and Asemu are the only cool heads that might keep the war from turning into a complete bloodbath.
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2012-08-09, 14:59 | Link #132 | |||||
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Also here's the thing, I kind of actually like Gundam and am not actively looking for reasons to put down the franchise so much as addressing the issues that come up. If you ask me people are trying way to hard in general these days to find fault with just about any action show that comes out and it strikes me as more than a little counterproductive to any hope of enjoying and appreciating them. If I'm an unrelenting fanboy in my hesistance to condemn AGE at every turn than several other people might as well be dedicated haters. Quote:
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2012-08-09, 15:24 | Link #133 | ||||||||||
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They all had history with said character, Kio had no history with Girard at all, that's what makes the entire part so silly it. The same could be said with Fram but not to the same extent as with Girard. Quote:
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Kids are naive for sure, but being naive and being stupid is two different things, Kio is being Stupid. The Vagan's destroyed his hometown, They have waged war on the federation for the past 70 years and caused a great amount of casulties, either Kio doesn't care or he is stupid, there is no way any kid that's right in the head would give Ezelcant the AGE device unless he was tortured. Quote:
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2012-08-09, 15:47 | Link #134 |
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You would have a valid comment if the understanding theme came completely unexpected and made no sense. However, when you look at how it's been developed, it's not that difficult to swallow. Just because you have a personal issue with that theme and don't like it for whatever reason, doesn't mean that there's something inherently wrong with the show like you're implying.
Do you seriously expect a thirteen year old with no military training to be a perfect soldier? Kio was portrayed as a nice kid, and his experience in Second Moon clearly changed him. Instead of wanting to destroy the other side he's trying to end the fighting so people can sit down and talk. It might be naive, but it's completely within his character and it makes sense, and you know what? Flit at 14 couldn't pull the trigger either, twice, so lay off the Kio hate. If you want to complain, then complain about the Gundam not having a real pilot, instead of a kid.
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2012-08-09, 16:39 | Link #136 | |||||
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going from that to not fighting at all and letting his own grandfather nearly get killed when Girard went berserk by a person he just met, is not. Kio wanted to prevent casulties on both sides and he wanted to try and understand the vagans, instead he was now letting one person put both his father and grandfather in danger because she didn't want to talk to him. Quote:
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2012-08-10, 00:08 | Link #138 |
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Don't just blame Kio/AGE with this no common sense approach to the no-kill policy, it's a problem with the entire Anime/Game industry of Japan of recent. Just look at the oh-so-great Unicorn for the same thing in episode 4 when Banagher wants to talk Loni out of fighting when she was murdering Fed soldiers left and right and completely levelling the city around her, just like Kio wanting to talk Gerrid out of fighting when she had just killed about 10 Fed soliders 5 minutes before. The execution is so bad that all it ends up looking is ultimate hypocrisy for the protagonist's ideal - as the protagonist appears only interested in saving the faced characters while completely ignoring the casualty of the nameless/faceless while they keep talking unsuccessfully about "let's not fight!" nor will try to disarm the enemy whom are usually in unstable emotional condition such that talking is completely useless anyway. It's probably one of my pet peeve against writing about pacifism in anime in recent years.
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2012-08-10, 01:15 | Link #139 |
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Well I do agree that if Kio keeps up with the whole understanding thing and it keeps going the way it's been going then things aren't going to be very sensible in the finale. I would definitely imagine that he's heading towards taking a different tack now that his naive direct approach to trying to have a pow wow with Vagan pilots (one of the more seemingly reasonable ones in Fram at that) has failed. Next episodes probably going to be pretty important for his development.
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2012-08-10, 09:21 | Link #140 | ||
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He was about to put her out before the Newtypeitssosad moment happened, and she was done then eitherway, the entire situation was handled in a bad way because they didn't stick to the Novels when it came to Loni's background story. Quote:
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