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View Poll Results: Umineko no Naku Koro ni - Episode 15 Rating
Perfect 10 32 21.48%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 45 30.20%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 43 28.86%
7 out of 10 : Good 18 12.08%
6 out of 10 : Average 6 4.03%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 1 0.67%
4 out of 10 : Poor 0 0%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 1 0.67%
1 out of 10 : Painful 3 2.01%
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Old 2009-10-09, 17:14   Link #201
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Beato had a complete personality change there.
No kidding. One theory I heard (in RPG.net's discussion) is that maybe it's the Endless Witch's power that makes its user cruel? As soon as she handed it off, Beato completely dropped the whole "KNEEL BEFORE ZOD" schtick that had pretty much been her defining character trait, while Eva-Beatrice went from zero to psycho pretty quickly.

(Theory two comes from a scene that got left out of the anime.
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Old 2009-10-09, 17:43   Link #202
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and the gold looks alrght to me, exactly as i imagined in the game. i even think there may be too much of it i don't think deen actually counted the bars so it would be exactly 10tons.
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Old 2009-10-09, 18:13   Link #203
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Does anyone have (and is willing to post) the TIPS for the latest set of murders?
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Old 2009-10-09, 18:17   Link #204
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does anyone have (and is willing to post) the tips for the latest set of murders?
CALLED IT!!

Spoiler for Ep. 3 Second Twilight:
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Old 2009-10-09, 20:09   Link #205
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Spoiler for random comment about second twilight compared to VN:
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Old 2009-10-09, 20:50   Link #206
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I thought, given time restraints, it was a decent episode. And yes, the VN description scared me more than the anime...

Wish there were more goats/witches at the ceremony, but...
Character development got slashed as usual, but...

Also, reminded of when I was convinced that Hideyoshi was full of awesome and would end up as a major player, now i suspect he's a part of the murders... Of course, Akasaka was full of awesome way later.

7 for me.
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Old 2009-10-09, 21:56   Link #207
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No kidding. One theory I heard (in RPG.net's discussion) is that maybe it's the Endless Witch's power that makes its user cruel? As soon as she handed it off, Beato completely dropped the whole "KNEEL BEFORE ZOD" schtick that had pretty much been her defining character trait, while Eva-Beatrice went from zero to psycho pretty quickly.

(Theory two comes from a scene that got left out of the anime.
Spoiler:
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It's more like Beato has always had a childish personality, but until recently DEEN has just been cutting out every single one of those moments, that and making her into a bigger bitch then she actually was in the novel. I'm not sure why they tried to do that, only to turn around and quickly try and re-insert her childish moments (other then they just realized they had to.)
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Old 2009-10-10, 02:42   Link #208
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Beatrice realizes she may have been too excessive... YOU THINK, Beato? Kinda funny it took someone even more sadistic than her to do it. Ronove's jabs at her were really funny.

It's also kinda intresting insight on what Beatrice wants. She feels dejected that nobody wants to watch her show anymore. That sudden change in her tone brings up a lot of question. Perhaps she does have some kind of decency, somewhere.

I also like the BGM these past few episodes. The fancy music makes me laugh and disturbs me at the same time. 8/10
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Old 2009-10-10, 04:51   Link #209
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After same for Battler, this is really a main point, cause his "There have been times when i thought you could be a little fun"... ... ... Where? When she killed his family? Or when she killed him 2 times? Surely at this point my opinion of Battler change a lot xDD
In the novel, it actually where several times where they had fun together (like the clapping scene) sadly those moments where cut in anime.
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Old 2009-10-10, 05:37   Link #210
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Just finished this ep and wow, wtf 's going on here....
The level of excitement from the past two episodes are slowly reaching Ep I (after decline like mad due to Ep II). It's the feeling "i'm dying to see the next episodes" again ^^ (Hooray!)

Poor little Maria in her final moment *run to the corner while crying * ;_;
The tsundere Beato got so many extra points this episode and rising from the bottom to the top of my favourite Umineko's characters list.

It will be terrible if I do not get any answer by the end of the season. At least i hope they reveal the impotant clue, (like revealing the secret of a "certain character" by the end of Higurashi S1)
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Old 2009-10-10, 06:04   Link #211
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Just finished this ep and wow, wtf 's going on here....
The level of excitement from the past two episodes are slowly reaching Ep I (after decline like mad due to Ep II). It's the feeling "i'm dying to see the next episodes" again ^^ (Hooray!)

Poor little Maria in her final moment *run to the corner while crying * ;_;
The tsundere Beato got so many extra points this episode and rising from the bottom to the top of my favourite Umineko's characters list.

It will be terrible if I do not get any answer by the end of the season. At least i hope they reveal the impotant clue, (like revealing the secret of a "certain character" by the end of Higurashi S1)
Well I won't say anything about that, but according to Ryukishi07 (it was in an interview) Umineko is solvable by the end of EP 4.
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Old 2009-10-10, 06:11   Link #212
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Well I won't say anything about that, but according to Ryukishi07 (it was in an interview) Umineko is solvable by the end of EP 4.
Too bad I haven't seen any theories that have made me a probable believer. Most of what I've read still has lotsa holes in them.
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Old 2009-10-10, 06:14   Link #213
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But when you think back about Higurashi, the end of the 4 Question arcs also should be enough to provide the answer. But then the answer arcs still hit me like napalm.
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I officially like Ronove... Even though I'm Anti-Fantasy...
I like his laughter... lol.

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But when you think back about Higurashi, the end of the 4 Question arcs also should be enough to provide the answer. But then the answer arcs still hit me like napalm.
Wow, I never read the VN, but was it really that surprising?
I only watched the anime, so was there alot of things left out?

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Old 2009-10-10, 07:23   Link #215
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I officially like Ronove... Even though I'm Anti-Fantasy...
I like his laughter... lol.



Wow, I never read the VN, but was it really that surprising?
I only watched the anime, so was there alot of things left out?

~Travis
I watched the anime, but i followed closely all the clues and hints that were left out...

Btw, the "twilight" in the epitaph can occur during day time, right?
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Old 2009-10-10, 07:29   Link #216
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It seems so. I mean Jessica in ep2 was killed while it was still morning.

Don't remember the exact time of this Ep3 second twilight but it seems afternoon to me.
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Btw, the "twilight" in the epitaph can occur during day time, right?
Right. I'm pretty sure that the first and last twilights occur at the nights of both days, though.
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Just out of curiosity, what is the clapping scene?
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Old 2009-10-10, 07:46   Link #219
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Just out of curiosity, what is the clapping scene?
It is a scene from the Visual Novel in which Battler and Beatrice applaud Eva for solving the riddle, each trying to surpass the other's clapping. The fans like this scene because Battler and Beatrice are happy together, despite the game they are playing.

I think this was explained a while ago...
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