Shakugan no Shana III - Episode 8 Discussion / Poll

[elior]

Originally Posted by alvinkhorfire

Yes, Game8910 has summarized it nicely. It is lovely to see Shana wearing the white dress, which is shown in the cover of Volume 18. I believe that the content of this episode covers up to about Chapter 2 of Volume 18.

So, it only takes a single sentence of incantation for Wilhelmina to revive Tendōkyū. I expected something more laborious than that. Such simple requirement really begs the question why Tendōkyū is not revived much earlier. After all, it is saddening to see it sunk into the seabed fo so long and it being a pale shadow of it former self. On the other hand, it is always amusing to see the scene of Rebecca getting wet again in another gag scene and second eyecatch after the advertisement.

Bal Masqué is definitely playing a strategic game in this war. Sending many troops of tomogaras to attack various outlaws worldwide acts as a diversion for Flame Hazes, who are forced to deploy more resources in defending their bases. Actually, the real priority for Flame Hazes should be Seireiden instead, because it is where they will reach the God Gate in order to stop the revival of the Snake of the Festival. However, their resources may be spread way too thin to mount a major attack on Seireiden. Luckily, Khamsin and Rebecca are fine by themselves, in blowing up Seireiden.

Wow, the path of pilgrimage is seemingly infinitely long and treacherous. You really have to give credit to the God of Creation, who can create almost everything. Again, I do not understand why anyone can get lost, as it appears to be only one direction to travel in.

Thanks to Marcus H. and others who maintain Shakugan no SHANA Wikia, for the following information:

Spoiler for Character Name:

The Flame Haze (12m 19s) is "Handler of Dark Ravens", Hildegard. She maintains a contract with Wodan, the Crimson Lord with the true name "Charging Chief of Demon's Road", which in turn resides in a brooch-shaped vessel called Hliðskjálf.
The Flame Haze (15m 47s) is "Conveyor of Shaped Silhouettes", François Auric. He is contracted to "Arrangement of Miraculous Springs" Grogach, who is sealed inside the jar-shaped Vessel named Splet.

Who is the Flame Haze, appearing at 12m 24s?

Spoiler for His name?:

Is he Dan?

I could not be more impatient for more action scenes next week.

did you forgot about decarabia the blue eel he said to fecol he prepere his forces to defend the palace in case somone will attack the place. so they can hold kamashin and rebbeca from blow the palace for a while

[alvinkhorfire]

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Yes, you are right about that point. Then again, the much powerful Crimson Denizens, such as Orobas and Lerajie are deployed elsewhere to keep other Flame Hazes busy. I could be wrong, but there is not many strong Crimson Denizens in Seireiden, other than Fecor, causing the Seireiden quite vulnerable at this point. Still, we really have to wait for the next episode to see how it happens.

[elior]

Originally Posted by alvinkhorfire

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Yes, you are right about that point. Then again, the much powerful Crimson Denizens, such as Orobas and Lerajie are deployed elsewhere to keep other Flame Hazes busy. I could be wrong, but there is not many strong Crimson Denizens in Seireiden, other than Fecor, causing the Seireiden quite vulnerable at this point. Still, we really have to wait for the next episode to see how it happens.

by the way can you answer me what is fecol powers? is he more of defend type which can create somthing that can protect the palace for a while and himself or he just attack most of the time?

[Brimstone]

Originally Posted by elior

did you forgot about decarabia the blue eel he said to fecol he prepere his forces to defend the palace in case somone will attack the place. so they can hold kamashin and rebbeca from blow the palace for a while

No matter how much forces they left behind it doesn't match up to the overwhelming numbers required to press the offensive, as Shana noted that the entire place is pretty much deserted.

And chances are the ones they left behind are the scrubs of scrubs, remember that up to this point their base had never been infiltrated- they had no reason reason to leave any sizable force behind so definitely the strongest troops would be out in the field.

Originally Posted by Zodiamaster

I found that to be rather ludicrous.

WW3 raging out there and 2 lone dorks just waltz in the enemy HQ and blow it to smithereens?

The place is almost completely deserted, so it's not that unthinkable.

[elior]

Originally Posted by Brimstone

No matter how much forces they left behind it doesn't match up to the overwhelming numbers required to press the offensive, as Shana noted that the entire place is pretty much deserted.

And chances are the ones they left behind are the scrubs of scrubs, remember that up to this point their base had never been infiltrated- they had no reason reason to leave any sizable force behind so definitely the strongest troops would be out in the field.



The place is almost completely deserted, so it's not that unthinkable.

we cant be sure after all decarapia is denizen too and if fecol give him permission to use his forces then decarapia forces might be strong enough to hold kamashin or rebbeca also decarapia already aware that no one in the past found the palace so if he decided to use his forces they might be strong enough and also we didn't see fecol true power yet so everything can happen

[Fnights]

This was another good episode, hope they save Shana and she regain powers.

7/10

[Ec1ge]

A good 8/10.
Didn't understand some parts (maybe b/c I zoned out xD) but a great episode nonetheless.

Originally Posted by alvinkhorfire

In short, Bal Masqué is executing Psalm of Grand Order, which consists of 3 stages:
1st stage: create a vessel that utilizes the power of the God of Creation; - completed. It should be Silver, but Snake of the Festival choosed to merge with Yuji. Thus, Snake of the Festival Sakai Yuji is the leader of Bal Masqué.

2nd stage: travel to the Eternal Pit to retrieve the real body of Snake of the Festival; - current happening.

3rd stage: change the world according to the desire of Snake of the Festival.

As you can see, Shana is currently imprisoned by Yuji in Seireiden, to prevent her from using Tenpa Jyousai to kill Snake of the Festival.


Further explanation to answer these questions may involve spoiler, thus I cannot provide you any more information. If you are really anxious, post your questions instead in Novel or Spoiler thread. There are other experts there who can help you.

Anyway, at 17m 12s of Season 3 Episode 5, Wilhelmina said:"Tendōkyū and Seireiden shall not be brought near each other." Keep this in mind, so that you will understand the next episode better.

On a unrelated note, the name of the Flame Haze appearing in 8m 57s still remains a mystery.

[Towards the bolded part] Y?

[alvinkhorfire]

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@Ec1ge
Sorry, I cannot say anymore. I have mentioned my reason before.

Originally Posted by alvinkhorfire

Further explanation to answer these questions may involve spoiler, thus I cannot provide you any more information. If you are really anxious, post your questions instead in Novel or Spoiler thread. There are other experts there who can help you.

As of now, I can only tell you the events that have been animated. Anything beyond that is not allowed in this thread. Just remember the point about Tendōkyū and Seireiden, so that you understand Episode 9 better.

[Ec1ge]

Originally Posted by alvinkhorfire

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@Ec1ge
Sorry, I cannot say anymore. I have mentioned my reason before.


As of now, I can only tell you the events that have been animated. Anything beyond that is not allowed in this thread. Just remember the point about Tendōkyū and Seireiden, so that you understand Episode 9 better.

Okay I completely understand

[ElricKeyblade]

AWESOME~ I expected to be bored with the fighting scenes, and was pleasantly surprised! Can't wait for the next epi!

[Hooves]

*While I was watching episode 8 and eating my cereal. This came up....*



*Drops the spoon*

*Chokes on some cereal he was trying to swallow.*

Cuh.....Cuh..... E.... *falls on the floor from the cuteness*

*5 hours later*

Ok I'm better now... Good episode though. The fighting scenes were extremely well-played.

[Cosmic Eagle]

Seeing Francois use Windows 7 is pretty surreal...

[Marcus H.]

^ Even Flame Haze need to be updated on technology.

[Senshigeia]

I watched the episode two days ago, but only now I have the opportunity to comment here. Great episode! Here's my highlights:

1- Lil Shana is so moe... I could help myself when she appeared, I just lost it!!
2- Wilhelmina bringing up Tendōkyū. That was something!!
3- Shana admitting she wanted to touch Yuji :3
4- Rebecca screaming when Tendōkyū appeared above the sea, and Khamsin, well... quiet. And then she got wet - I LOLed!
5- Khamsin fighting. That was crazy! In season 1 he seemed like a quiet, wise guy, and now he transforms into that giant-thing who destroys everything. Was it the monster he was telling Kazumi-san about, in episode 6?

Anyway, here's some questions...

Spoiler for questions:

Tenmoku Iku: it seems he is going to appear in the next episode. Is it possible he stayed sleeping in the sunken Tendōkyū, and now wakes up?
Shiro aka Merihim: is it possible he too is sleeping there and wakes up too? I would love something like that...

[taichi-kun]

The adaptation of the episode was ok?

Wilhelmina bringing up Tendōkyū, That was so crazy

[Om Nerabdator]

wow that little flame haze kid is pretty damn good

[syke123]

I kind of found most of the newly introduced Flame hazes lacking in background/creativity, can't say the same thing for the denizens though.

Huh, before Rebecca was introduced 2 episodes ago, I really thought she was the host of a crimson god. Kind of disappointed to learn otherwise, I like the character they gave her though, and to find out that Khamsin is actually far older than he appears was a turning point for me. I also hope that the other 3 gods aren't a bunch of 60yr old+ dudes.

[Marcus H.]

I kind of found most of the newly introduced Flame hazes lacking in background/creativity, can't say the same thing for the denizens though.

Most of them really don't need that kind of detailing to truly appreciate them.

[Kristen]

Hm, interesting episode. Who voices that lamprey guy? He's doing a phenomenal job.

[Nochgo]

Things are starting to get heated up, with the war going on full scale. It's feels a bit odd how they are introducing so many new Flame Hazes, when we were shown only a handful throughout 2 previous season, but I guess they can't help it considering the current plot. Otherwise, it was a very enjoyable episode. And lil Shana was too cute

One thing that I kept thinking as the old kid activated his spell: GUNDAM ^^;