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EroKing · 2013-06-02, 12:09

Ghanw · 2013-06-02, 15:15

So what is the final ending of this as the anime didn't end with the final novel ending?

Kazu-kun · 2013-06-02, 15:24

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So what is the final ending of this as the anime didn't end with the final novel ending?

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kuromitsu · 2013-06-03, 20:47

So... this is it, I guess?

I wish I could say I enjoyed the episode, but to be honest my overall reaction is "Yep, I'll have to read the books."

Spoiler for ep 12:

This episode provided a resolution to the festival arc and Izumiko coming into her own (so to speak), and it did try to bring most plotlines to a stop, but it didn't really have a "finale" feel to it. I guess it could be an "and life goes on, the characters face the future whatever it holds!" type ending, but if that was the intention it's kind of half-assed. I mean, even the big Miyuki x Izumiko moment happened halfway into the episode (and the post-ED scene didn't exactly scream "finale" either), we never got an answer to the Takayanagi-Wamiya connection (no way it's a coincidence), Yukimasa the creep and Izumiko's mom had a cameo which only served to remind me that we never really learned anything about the background of the Sagara father-son conflict, aside of Yukimasa not perceiving Miyuki good enough/not considering his opinions... perhaps there's no underlying issue, perhaps we should just take what the characters said at face value and don't presume that there's more to the the matter. But the time-travel aspect, the different timelines, and reveal that the himegami was Izumiko open up so many opportunities that it would be a waste if the writer didn't use them. Also, now Izumiko became a world heritage candidate - are we supposed to be happy about this? Isn't this exactly what happened in the second timeline?

I guess those who like Miyuki and Izumiko as a couple will be very happy about this episode. Me, I still don't care and still don't see any chemistry between them. Partly it's Uchiyama Kouki's acting - he hasn't been the best choice for this role, as Kaoru Chujo also said, he makes Miyuki sound so harsh even when he is not supposed to be. And partly, I think, it's the development of their relationship that is on the one hand very clichéd and boring, at least for my taste, and on the other hand, too choppy.

I liked what they did with Takayanagi, perhaps because I love dogs. He was so cute, too bad he changed back. I wonder, though, if his mind was intact, why couldn't he fight against the ghosts? He's a high-level onmyouji, even as a dog he would've been a lot better at disposing them than Miyuki. Then again, this was supposed to be Miyuki's big moment. By the way, it was funny that just when I thought "all he needs is a monkey..." Miyuki himself remarked on the same thing. XD Maybe he should recruit Masumi.

Spoiler for ep 12 - Souda whining:

In short and in conclusion: I wouldn't be surprised if there was an OVA. But if there isn't, I guess this could serve as an ending, even though it's not very satisfying (unless you're only watching it for Miyuki and Izumiko).

As for the show in general: even though around ep 7 I got interested in the Souda triplets and ep 9 made me interested in the himegami plotline, my overall opinion that I had since the start didn't really change, unfortunately. This show simply lacks something. A heart, a soul, I don't know - something just doesn't click. There's something business-like about how it goes about telling its story, and to make it worse, for a long time the writers managed to keep the story flowing without hiccups even though they must've cut a lot from the original material, but in the recent episodes the cuts became a lot more apparent. :/ And the Miyuki x Izumiko relationship which is supposed to be the emotional backbone is just not working for me.

So yeah. Perhaps the books are better. I definitely hope for more Souda stuff.

Also, an overall observation: this trend of adapting things into half as many episodes as they would need really needs to stop. :/

Kaoru Chujo · 2013-06-03, 21:51

All in all, I loved this show. I thought the final episode did an amazing job of bringing things just together enough to be satisfying. From reading spoilers, it doesn't seem to me that the novel added that much more of significance. Even the Souda triplets sub-plot was brought together enough for me.

This ending is definitely just the beginning of something, but that works for me. Even the romantic feelings worked for me, despite how little I liked Miyuki as he was played. We broke through that at the end by having him fall asleep: the only way he could soften enough for me to like him was for him to go unconscious, lol.

Of course, the main reason I liked the show was Izumiko. I find deep insecurity both attractive and easy to identify with. Izumiko's emergence to a modicum of confidence was very satisfying. Fine work by Hayami Saori, as I've said several times.

As far as relentlessness can determine, twelve episodes is it.

kuromitsu · 2013-06-04, 05:00

Things were brought together, yes, but not in a way that I can find satisfying.

Spoiler for ep 12:

I liked the characters (well, I'm neutral on Miyuki), the story got pretty interesting around the Togakushi incident and the himegami reveal, and overall the acting was very good (aside of Fukuyama and Uchiyama, and thank god human!Wamiya didn't last long), so it's not like I didn't enjoy the show. I just find it disappointing.

Kaoru Chujo · 2013-06-04, 21:45

Your points make sense. Maybe I'm just easy to please...when I want to be.

I do definitely agree that trying to cram a story that needs 2n episodes into n episodes is a recurring problem. But so is not properly deciding what aspects of a source can be left out, and ending up doing three things badly rather than one thing well. I find two-cour shows often seem to lose focus, and I basically prefer 12 crisp episodes that go a bit too quickly to 24 episodes that don't know where they're going.

kuromitsu · 2013-06-05, 05:58

Heh, I'm easy to please, too - it's just that this show didn't push the right buttons (or not often enough).

And yes, it's true that 2-cour series are more liable to meandering, especially when there's not enough source material so they need to drag things out. I can imagine what a difficult decision length can be in some cases, from a writing perspective, when the source material is too long for 1 cour but not meaty enough for 2 cours. Although a more common problem seems to be when a show would've needed just one or two more episodes to avoid rushing or having to cut things that would've made the viewers more immersed or emotionally involved. RDG, for example - I believe it would've benefited a lot from an extra ~23 minutes. (Of course in the end it's not the writer who decides how many episodes he or she gets. :/ )

(By the way, I just noticed that the official site has a glossary of terms, which includes, among less common/show specific terms, words like "ninja," "onmyouji" or "Shugendou," and also stuff like "Kuzuryuu-ookami," "shikigami" and "shinrei."

Apparently they didn't expect Japanese viewers to be familiar with everything...)

Endscape · 2013-06-05, 06:46

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Your points make sense. Maybe I'm just easy to please...when I want to be.

I do definitely agree that trying to cram a story that needs 2n episodes into n episodes is a recurring problem. But so is not properly deciding what aspects of a source can be left out, and ending up doing three things badly rather than one thing well. I find two-cour shows often seem to lose focus, and I basically prefer 12 crisp episodes that go a bit too quickly to 24 episodes that don't know where they're going.

You have a point: On one hand, I think RDG would benefit from more episodes to develop the characters, but too many episodes and the show might just lose it's thread, especially if they put in some filler. The show already has a meandering feel to it, after all.

ookamigirl · 2013-06-06, 11:29

#10

The school festival continues.
I like the theme, it's different and nice.
It was also nice watching them have normal festival problems.
Izumiko is still a scaredy cat. That girl needs to find some courage.
Hope thing will be more interesting next time.

Dawnstorm · 2013-06-08, 19:54

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Even Masumi making a move on Izumiko was just a plot device to bring her relationship with Miyuki to a new level.

Hm, I don't think so. I thought the implication was, if Izumiko went with Masumi, she would become inhuman. And Izumiko + inhuman = Himegami.

ChainLegacy · 2013-06-08, 21:06

Final episode was nice. There were plenty of mysteries left unsolved, but it kind of fit with the general way this series has been.. it just doesn't make an effort to explain every detail to the viewer.

One wonders what went differently in this timeline to prevent goddess destruction mode (and why it went differently).

kuromitsu · 2013-06-09, 05:48

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Hm, I don't think so. I thought the implication was, if Izumiko went with Masumi, she would become inhuman. And Izumiko + inhuman = Himegami.

That's not the impression I got... I mean, Izumiko = Himegami. To me it seemed that if she went with Masumi she would stop existing in the human world. Masumi would eat her, or she would continue to exist in the spiritual "plane" (so to speak) that he inhabits.

Bern-san · 2013-06-09, 06:00

Spoiler for 12:

In general the anime had many faults in terms of adaptation, I haven't read the novels but it was obvious enough that the anime skipped through a lot of content which made some interactions weird (the first episode being the worst example).
Despite this, I managed to care about the main couple in the end, it has been interesting enough to make me want to know what happens next and Hayami Saori's performance has been outstanding although I had my doubts in the first episode.

Kazu-kun · 2013-06-09, 06:08

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Spoiler for 12:

Spoiler for spoiler:

It's a pity the anime scrapped all that. We never got to see Izumiko growing a spine and fighting on her own.

Dawnstorm · 2013-06-09, 11:32

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That's not the impression I got... I mean, Izumiko = Himegami. To me it seemed that if she went with Masumi she would stop existing in the human world. Masumi would eat her, or she would continue to exist in the spiritual "plane" (so to speak) that he inhabits.

I think that Izumiko will be the himegami, but the himegami is Izumiko. That would give an interesting new spin to what she told Miyuki: don't let her become the himegami.

Also, if Masumi would just remove Izumiko into the spirit world with no ill effect, then basically Masumi would have saved the world from the himegami's destructive powers. However we learn from Nonomura that this is the day Izumiko turns into the himegami. If I'm right, it's not (as I thought) "possession/fusion" (as with her mother); something Izumiko does will lead to it.

I really do think that the show suggests that moment was point zero. It may be a bit dodgy, but a lot of things make sense to me when viewed that way.

For example, the himegami forgetting things could be the memories returning to experiences that created them in the first place. Then, through that connection, Izumiko could "remember" Takayanagi, and somehow associate him with abandoning the world and turning towards the spirit realm.

It's the only interpretation I have that gives me a sense of closure. (But it wouldn't be the first time that I'm wrong.)

kuromitsu · 2013-06-09, 16:13

I thought Izumiko "became" the himegami, that is, came into her own, when she kicked Takayanagi's ass. She angsts about being the himegami right before Masumi appears, and then to Masumi, and then later she tells Miyuki that when she realized she was the himegami she was so scared she just wanted to run and hide blah blah blah. Which is in line with what Nonomura tells Miyuki - this is the day when Izumiko awakens. She did, in fact, awaken.

I think the problem with her going with Masumi was simply that this way she would've left her previous life behind, along with everyone she loves (= Miyuki, mostly), and she just didn't want that. All her life she wanted to be just a normal girl, himegami or no himegami. Accepting Masumi's offer would've meant giving that up. I guess if she had a better grasp on her newfound powers and was in a better state of mind, she could've just made Masumi gtfo (after all, the himegami was able to make him to return to his cave at Togakushi), but she was too scared and upset, and running away didn't seem like such a bad idea anyway. But when Miyuki called her she decided to go back to him (and presumably everyone else) and face the life she wanted to live. Hopefully without destroying humankind - this part is pretty vague, unfortunately. Perhaps it has something to do with her self-confidence and inner strength.

Also, I'm not sure going with Masumi would've saved the world. Perhaps if Masumi ate her, though I guess if that's what he wanted he wouldn't have gone through the trouble of giving her a makeover, summoning the ladies, etc. It would help if we knew how Izumiko destroyed humankind in the first timeline, and how it was destroyed in the second... (Did she turn all humans into adorable shiba dogs? If yes, I'm actually OK with that.

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For example, the himegami forgetting things could be the memories returning to experiences that created them in the first place. Then, through that connection, Izumiko could "remember" Takayanagi, and somehow associate him with abandoning the world and turning towards the spirit realm.

I thought the himegami forgetting things was simply the result of having lived for so long. She's lived through hundreds of generations twice, in spirit form, but technically she's still just a human, not a spiritual entity like Masumi/Kuzuryuu, who is immortal and has the mindset to deal with it. As she told Miyuki, her sense of identity, and with this, her sense of purpose have already started to crumble, which is why this is the last chance.

Anyway, this is how it makes sense to me.

Master_Yoma · 2013-06-09, 21:05

Well this was good and Izumiko was just so cute but this would of been better if it was 24eps to full out the story

7/10

Dawnstorm · 2013-06-10, 15:48

Easier things first:

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I thought the himegami forgetting things was simply the result of having lived for so long. She's lived through hundreds of generations twice, in spirit form, but technically she's still just a human, not a spiritual entity like Masumi/Kuzuryuu, who is immortal and has the mindset to deal with it. As she told Miyuki, her sense of identity, and with this, her sense of purpose have already started to crumble, which is why this is the last chance.

Anyway, this is how it makes sense to me.

Here, I was simply wrong; easy as that. I forgot that she's already failed (at least?) once, so what I said can't be true.

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I thought Izumiko "became" the himegami, that is, came into her own, when she kicked Takayanagi's ass. She angsts about being the himegami right before Masumi appears, and then to Masumi, and then later she tells Miyuki that when she realized she was the himegami she was so scared she just wanted to run and hide blah blah blah. Which is in line with what Nonomura tells Miyuki - this is the day when Izumiko awakens. She did, in fact, awaken.

I've always assumed that the difference between Izumiko and the Himegami is that the former is still human, while tha later isn't. I thought that the moment with Masumi was a pivotal point: will she abandon her humanity or not?

I see parallels between Izumiko-as-himegami and Masumi: you can stop being human, but people will still remember you and keep the bond alive. That's sort of tying Izumiko to the world whether she abandons it or not.

My hunch is very hazy - but I tend to see the division along those lines. Izumiko coming into her powers =/= Izumiko becoming the himegami; it's a no more than a prerequisit. Her reaction to it is what matters: If she takes responsibility, her powers are her own; if she doesn't, her powers become "divine", partly her own - but she'll lose herself in other people's "worship".

Not sure if that makes sense.

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All her life she wanted to be just a normal girl, himegami or no himegami. Accepting Masumi's offer would've meant giving that up. I guess if she had a better grasp on her newfound powers and was in a better state of mind, she could've just made Masumi gtfo (after all, the himegami was able to make him to return to his cave at Togakushi), but she was too scared and upset, and running away didn't seem like such a bad idea anyway. But when Miyuki called her she decided to go back to him (and presumably everyone else) and face the life she wanted to live. Hopefully without destroying humankind - this part is pretty vague, unfortunately. Perhaps it has something to do with her self-confidence and inner strength.

If I'm right here, and I still think I might be, then it's certainly about self-confidence and inner strength. It's about living the life she wants to live, regardless of her powers. She can only do that if she accepts both her powers and her humanity. That way she can face people as equals rather than as subordinates, supplicants or manipulators.

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Also, I'm not sure going with Masumi would've saved the world. Perhaps if Masumi ate her, though I guess if that's what he wanted he wouldn't have gone through the trouble of giving her a makeover, summoning the ladies, etc. It would help if we knew how Izumiko destroyed humankind in the first timeline, and how it was destroyed in the second... (Did she turn all humans into adorable shiba dogs? If yes, I'm actually OK with that.

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Yeah, we just know too little about that. What I think the show wants me to come away with is that for Izumiko to abandon her humanity is very dangerous for the world.

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On a totally different note, I only just learned that Mel Kishida, original character design for RDG, is also responsible for the character desigin in the Arland Trilogy, a series of RPG games on the PS3. Now I can't help but imagine a game with these characters: Atelier Izuzu. It works surprisingly well as a parody.

Benigmatica · 2013-06-11, 02:56

Just finished watching Ep. 12 today... It's glorious, but I think P.A.Works should make an OVA series to close this series out!

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kuromitsu Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004	So... this is it, I guess? I wish I could say I enjoyed the episode, but to be honest my overall reaction is "Yep, I'll have to read the books." Spoiler for ep 12: This episode provided a resolution to the festival arc and Izumiko coming into her own (so to speak), and it did try to bring most plotlines to a stop, but it didn't really have a "finale" feel to it. I guess it could be an "and life goes on, the characters face the future whatever it holds!" type ending, but if that was the intention it's kind of half-assed. I mean, even the big Miyuki x Izumiko moment happened halfway into the episode (and the post-ED scene didn't exactly scream "finale" either), we never got an answer to the Takayanagi-Wamiya connection (no way it's a coincidence), Yukimasa the creep and Izumiko's mom had a cameo which only served to remind me that we never really learned anything about the background of the Sagara father-son conflict, aside of Yukimasa not perceiving Miyuki good enough/not considering his opinions... perhaps there's no underlying issue, perhaps we should just take what the characters said at face value and don't presume that there's more to the the matter. But the time-travel aspect, the different timelines, and reveal that the himegami was Izumiko open up so many opportunities that it would be a waste if the writer didn't use them. Also, now Izumiko became a world heritage candidate - are we supposed to be happy about this? Isn't this exactly what happened in the second timeline? I guess those who like Miyuki and Izumiko as a couple will be very happy about this episode. Me, I still don't care and still don't see any chemistry between them. Partly it's Uchiyama Kouki's acting - he hasn't been the best choice for this role, as Kaoru Chujo also said, he makes Miyuki sound so harsh even when he is not supposed to be. And partly, I think, it's the development of their relationship that is on the one hand very clichéd and boring, at least for my taste, and on the other hand, too choppy. I liked what they did with Takayanagi, perhaps because I love dogs. He was so cute, too bad he changed back. I wonder, though, if his mind was intact, why couldn't he fight against the ghosts? He's a high-level onmyouji, even as a dog he would've been a lot better at disposing them than Miyuki. Then again, this was supposed to be Miyuki's big moment. By the way, it was funny that just when I thought "all he needs is a monkey..." Miyuki himself remarked on the same thing. XD Maybe he should recruit Masumi. Spoiler for ep 12 - Souda whining: And then there's the whole Souda subplot. Again, I get the feeling that there should be so much more here than what was said and implied. By which I mean their treatment and the resolution of their conflict was half-assed, which is really irritating because to me it's the most interesting aspect of the whole story and it would've deserved so much more. Masumi was especially intriguing now that we finally had an opportunity to see him move fully on his own accord, being fully self-aware, but then it was just... tossed out of the window, and he ended up as the usual never-had-a-chance "love rival" who was then easily discarded. Even though the concept of him being in love with Izumiko is really intriguing. :/ Not that I expected him to successfully woo Izumiko (or even sway her), but I expected a lot more from their interaction, I hoped Masumi would display a lot more of his non-human way of thinking, and also that we would hear his opinion on the whole triplet issue. At least we learned what it was that Masumi felt "off" about Mayura, and confirmed my theory that Mayura is deeply afraid to lose what is left of the "whole" that was she and her brothers, while Manatsu, surprisingly the more level-headed of the two, has already come to terms with the fact that it won't go on forever and that they shouldn't live constantly in fear. Mayura's wish, though. Wow. Does Manatsu know about this? If yes, I don't even want to imagine what a heavy and painful burden it is. .......I'm repeating myself, but the Soudas should really have their own spin-off. There's just so much interesting material here. In short and in conclusion: I wouldn't be surprised if there was an OVA. But if there isn't, I guess this could serve as an ending, even though it's not very satisfying (unless you're only watching it for Miyuki and Izumiko). As for the show in general: even though around ep 7 I got interested in the Souda triplets and ep 9 made me interested in the himegami plotline, my overall opinion that I had since the start didn't really change, unfortunately. This show simply lacks something. A heart, a soul, I don't know - something just doesn't click. There's something business-like about how it goes about telling its story, and to make it worse, for a long time the writers managed to keep the story flowing without hiccups even though they must've cut a lot from the original material, but in the recent episodes the cuts became a lot more apparent. :/ And the Miyuki x Izumiko relationship which is supposed to be the emotional backbone is just not working for me. So yeah. Perhaps the books are better. I definitely hope for more Souda stuff. Also, an overall observation: this trend of adapting things into half as many episodes as they would need really needs to stop. :/ Last edited by kuromitsu; 2013-06-04 at 16:29. Reason: typo

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Kaoru Chujo Yuuki Aoi Join Date: Jul 2004	All in all, I loved this show. I thought the final episode did an amazing job of bringing things just together enough to be satisfying. From reading spoilers, it doesn't seem to me that the novel added that much more of significance. Even the Souda triplets sub-plot was brought together enough for me. This ending is definitely just the beginning of something, but that works for me. Even the romantic feelings worked for me, despite how little I liked Miyuki as he was played. We broke through that at the end by having him fall asleep: the only way he could soften enough for me to like him was for him to go unconscious, lol. Of course, the main reason I liked the show was Izumiko. I find deep insecurity both attractive and easy to identify with. Izumiko's emergence to a modicum of confidence was very satisfying. Fine work by Hayami Saori, as I've said several times. As far as relentlessness can determine, twelve episodes is it. __________________ YUUKI Aoi 悠木碧. b92.03.27 (age 29). 2008 Kurenai (Murasaki). 2009 Yumeiro Pâtissière (Ichigo), Kiruminzuu (Riko), Yutori-chan (Yutori-chan). 2010 Vampire Bund (Mina Tepeş), Shiki (Sunako), Samurai Girls (Juubee), Pokémon: Black and White (Iris). 2011 Madoka Magica (Madoka), Gosick (Victorique), A-Channel (Tooru). 2012 Symphogear (Hibiki). 2014 Pilot's Love Song (Claire/Nina), Nanatsu no Taizai (Diane). 2015 Owari no Seraph (Krul Tepes), Rokka no Yuusha (Fremy). 2016 Boku no Hero Academia (Tsuyu, Froppy). 2017 Kino no Tabi (Kino). 2021 Kumo desu ga (watashi), Kaizoku Oujo (Karin), Heike Monogatari (Biwa), etc., etc. Total of 513 roles in anime and games.

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kuromitsu Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004	Things were brought together, yes, but not in a way that I can find satisfying. Spoiler for ep 12: For example - yes, the Souda subplot was kind of wrapped up, but it was like an afterthought. Even Masumi making a move on Izumiko was just a plot device to bring her relationship with Miyuki to a new level. Sure, plot-wise that was the ultimate goal, but it was an interesting situation with two interesting characters, and yet they proceeded straight to clichés with barely even touching on the more interesting details. I'm not blaming the show writers (I'm sure they did the best they could given the time constraints, and who knows, maybe it's like that in the books, too), but it was very disappointing for me. I suppose my main problem is that I don't care for the Miyuki x Izumiko angle. Izumiko is a good character, and Miyuki is not bad either, Izumiko opening up to the world + the himegami stuff are interesting, as are Miyuki's self-confidence issues, but their character development was so deeply tied to their relationship which left me cold. :/ Perhaps I would've liked it better if they had more time to develop the relationship more slowly. Meanwhile, other things I found very interesting ended up not getting enough focus (Sagara domestic issues, the himegami in general, what is different about Izumiko this time that gives her a chance to avoid the destruction of humankind, and of course the triplets - sure, they're not the main characters but they're so damn intriguing). I liked the characters (well, I'm neutral on Miyuki), the story got pretty interesting around the Togakushi incident and the himegami reveal, and overall the acting was very good (aside of Fukuyama and Uchiyama, and thank god human!Wamiya didn't last long), so it's not like I didn't enjoy the show. I just find it disappointing. Last edited by kuromitsu; 2013-06-04 at 09:55.

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Kaoru Chujo Yuuki Aoi Join Date: Jul 2004	Your points make sense. Maybe I'm just easy to please...when I want to be. I do definitely agree that trying to cram a story that needs 2n episodes into n episodes is a recurring problem. But so is not properly deciding what aspects of a source can be left out, and ending up doing three things badly rather than one thing well. I find two-cour shows often seem to lose focus, and I basically prefer 12 crisp episodes that go a bit too quickly to 24 episodes that don't know where they're going. __________________ YUUKI Aoi 悠木碧. b92.03.27 (age 29). 2008 Kurenai (Murasaki). 2009 Yumeiro Pâtissière (Ichigo), Kiruminzuu (Riko), Yutori-chan (Yutori-chan). 2010 Vampire Bund (Mina Tepeş), Shiki (Sunako), Samurai Girls (Juubee), Pokémon: Black and White (Iris). 2011 Madoka Magica (Madoka), Gosick (Victorique), A-Channel (Tooru). 2012 Symphogear (Hibiki). 2014 Pilot's Love Song (Claire/Nina), Nanatsu no Taizai (Diane). 2015 Owari no Seraph (Krul Tepes), Rokka no Yuusha (Fremy). 2016 Boku no Hero Academia (Tsuyu, Froppy). 2017 Kino no Tabi (Kino). 2021 Kumo desu ga (watashi), Kaizoku Oujo (Karin), Heike Monogatari (Biwa), etc., etc. Total of 513 roles in anime and games.

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kuromitsu Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004	Heh, I'm easy to please, too - it's just that this show didn't push the right buttons (or not often enough). And yes, it's true that 2-cour series are more liable to meandering, especially when there's not enough source material so they need to drag things out. I can imagine what a difficult decision length can be in some cases, from a writing perspective, when the source material is too long for 1 cour but not meaty enough for 2 cours. Although a more common problem seems to be when a show would've needed just one or two more episodes to avoid rushing or having to cut things that would've made the viewers more immersed or emotionally involved. RDG, for example - I believe it would've benefited a lot from an extra ~23 minutes. (Of course in the end it's not the writer who decides how many episodes he or she gets. :/ ) (By the way, I just noticed that the official site has a glossary of terms, which includes, among less common/show specific terms, words like "ninja," "onmyouji" or "Shugendou," and also stuff like "Kuzuryuu-ookami," "shikigami" and "shinrei." Apparently they didn't expect Japanese viewers to be familiar with everything...) Last edited by kuromitsu; 2013-06-05 at 06:48.

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ookamigirl Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	#10 The school festival continues. I like the theme, it's different and nice. It was also nice watching them have normal festival problems. Izumiko is still a scaredy cat. That girl needs to find some courage. Hope thing will be more interesting next time. __________________ My Blog --> ookami

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ChainLegacy 廉頗 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Massachusetts Age: 34	Final episode was nice. There were plenty of mysteries left unsolved, but it kind of fit with the general way this series has been.. it just doesn't make an effort to explain every detail to the viewer. One wonders what went differently in this timeline to prevent goddess destruction mode (and why it went differently).

2013-06-09, 06:00	Link #414
Bern-san Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009	Spoiler for 12: The episode was good even if it left the ending a bit open and some issues haven't really been concluded. The thing I'm disappointed the most is that they didn't kiss, how can you show them kissing in the OP but not in the actual story? Takayanagi as a dog was cute I wonder if after this in the last novel he becomes Izumiko's ally. I ended up being fond of Wamiya even if he didn't have that much screen time. In general the anime had many faults in terms of adaptation, I haven't read the novels but it was obvious enough that the anime skipped through a lot of content which made some interactions weird (the first episode being the worst example). Despite this, I managed to care about the main couple in the end, it has been interesting enough to make me want to know what happens next and Hayami Saori's performance has been outstanding although I had my doubts in the first episode. __________________

2013-06-09, 21:05	Link #418
Master_Yoma Nekokota Festival Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lost in the Fairy Forest	Well this was good and Izumiko was just so cute but this would of been better if it was 24eps to full out the story 7/10 __________________

2013-06-11, 02:56	Link #420
Benigmatica Deadpan Rambler Join Date: Nov 2012	Just finished watching Ep. 12 today... It's glorious, but I think P.A.Works should make an OVA series to close this series out!