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deadsea · 2012-04-13, 20:57

So who is the bad guy?
And how nico fake and satomi turn into witches without any sign of corruption?
I think that Clones are defective or Nico is using others soul gems...
For the recents chapters . Damn are too short !

Sageblink · 2012-04-13, 23:27

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Originally Posted by deadsea

So who is the bad guy?
And how nico fake and satomi turn into witches without any sign of corruption?
I think that Clones are defective or Nico is using others soul gems...
For the recents chapters . Damn are too short !

Well... Madoka Magica was mostly about Homura.
Maybe Kazumi Magica is about Nico...

Her wish could really be related to creation, allowing her to create the clones.

Diveman · 2012-04-15, 21:08

BTW, the theory of all of them being clones isnt that crazy. Satomi's gem didn't show any corruption when she turned into a witch either (Just like Nico's)

deadsea · 2012-04-23, 22:12

what's about the new chapter name ?
Strawberry rissoto
Maybeeeee homura appears and kill kazumi foreverr and the other pleiades for being soo lesbians okno.

Somebody has the chapter 15 raw?

Diveman · 2012-04-24, 07:42

I was also thinking the one who appeared on the lighthouse was one of the girls from madoka, but who knows.

No ch 15 raws, this is the explanation btw:

I have raws of the chapter, but I have to pay to release them, so I'm just going to release the script (with notes about the art and context) right now. I'll update this post with the Share raw when they get uploaded.

so yeah...sad face. Anyways, ch16 comes out today in japan, I hope it brings a new plot twist to this already twisted series.

NTFTH · 2012-04-24, 20:17

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Originally Posted by Diveman

I was also thinking the one who appeared on the lighthouse was one of the girls from madoka, but who knows.

No ch 15 raws, this is the explanation btw:

I have raws of the chapter, but I have to pay to release them, so I'm just going to release the script (with notes about the art and context) right now. I'll update this post with the Share raw when they get uploaded.

so yeah...sad face. Anyways, ch16 comes out today in japan, I hope it brings a new plot twist to this already twisted series.

Here are some spoilers for it that were posted on TvTropes.

Spoiler for Ch 16:

* Continuing immediately from the previous chapter, Kazumi turns around and finds herself face-to-face with Miyako Ishijima, the police officer from chapter 1.
o Ishijima's memories of the bomb threat and Evil Nut have been erased (possibly by Umika?).
* Kazumi gets in Ishijima's car for safety and they drive away from the lighthouse. Ishijima explains that over 20 girls have gone missing in the past few months, including Airi Anri. The only lead on the case is that each of their cell phones had a text message containing only the word "Hyades".
o The Hyades star cluster is located in the constellation Taurus, near the Pleiades. In Greek mythology, the Hyades were half-sisters to the Pleiades. Their brother Hyas was killed in a hunting accident, and after weeping from grief, they were transformed into a cluster of stars.
o The text messages are likely magical residue, as the phone companies' servers have no record of them.
* Ishijima off-handedly asks Kazumi if she regained her memories yet. Kazumi bursts into tears, and they hastily pull up at Tachibana's shop. Kazumi eats and goes to sleep. Ishijima and Tachibana talk over coffee.
* Ishijima pulls out a photo of a young girl. She identifies the girl as Remi Shiina, who she was close friends with in grade 9. She went missing, and Ishijima later heard from Remi's sister that Remi had been a magical girl. Early in her career, Ishijima was dedicated to investigating magical girls.
* Kazumi stays at Tachibana's shop over the next week. After several days pass, Kaoru drops off Michiru's diary with a letter to Kazumi in it.
o The diary contains Michiru's writings about her grandmother, how she met Yuuri Asuka before the Pleiades were formed (she broke up a fight between Yuuri and Kyouko at one point), the time she spent with the Pleiades, and finally her grief at having discovered the truth behind witches.
* Kaoru's letter informs Kazumi that the Pleiades (save for Kaoru, obviously) are planning to kill her, and urges her to run away.
* Kazumi and Tachibana have one last meal of strawberry risotto, and then Kazumi thanks him and leaves.
* Kazumi heads to the Freezer, and telepathically announces her location to the Pleiades. She says that she isn't going to run away, and demands that they come to the Freezer to end things (threatening to deactivate the Freezer and let the Soul Gems inside it hatch if they don't).

Diveman · 2012-04-24, 22:21

oh shit!!!!! now we're getting to the good part...

1 more month, damn!!!!!!!!!

Witched · 2012-04-27, 12:32

Oh snap.

Spoiler for !:

Diveman · 2012-04-27, 14:09

You know, I really REALLY want a happy ending for all the girls, but this is Kazumi and it prob wont happen. I feel sorry for kazumi, she kinda doesnt deserve anything that has happened to her.

Witched · 2012-04-27, 15:24

It's pretty brutal, mysterious (compared to the anime), and a bit more crazier.

If they had a happy ending, after all this... That'd be hard to accomplish.

**Solace** · 2012-04-27, 18:23

It's hard to feel sympathy for most of them, given what they've done. Perhaps it's a bit ironic that the monsters in this story aren't the aliens or the witches.

deadsea · 2012-04-27, 19:07

All girls turn into witches would be epic!!
i cant understand why kazumi want release them??
After all they cant revert the process Qb said that, it´s impossible !!

Also i wanna know more about Nicco.

Spoiler for Ch 16 images:

Diveman · 2012-04-27, 21:47

I think what Kazumi is trying to do, is just to call their attention so that they can fix their "personal issue" once and for all, and she's using the pretext of releasing the soul gems, because there's no way the girls will allow that.

Still, Kazumi didnt do anything wrong, she just died and became a witch. Even Satomi is a "victim", because she just snapped with the idea of becoming a witch, she just lost it (like Mami in the alternate world in madoka).

Nico is of couse hiding something, but we don't know what.

I think it would have worked if Airi hadnt struck that Evil seed inside kazumi's head. We still don't know the origin of Evil nuts, even though probably is QB himself (helped by nico maybe?)

Snork · 2012-04-28, 14:11

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I feel sorry for kazumi, she kinda doesnt deserve anything that has happened to her.

Which is common for almost everyone in MadoMagi franchise.

AuraTwilight · 2012-04-28, 14:13

I'd scratch off the 'almost'. No one deserves being murdered by psycopathic magical monsters, BECOMING psychopathic magical monsters, being mindraped and soulraped, becoming zombies, or...

Snork · 2012-04-28, 14:34

Well, I put "almost" to safebelt against people who might start raising Oriko topic.

Despite the fact that she didn't quite deserve her fate either (and never deserved the circumstances that led her to contracting in the first place

)

AuraTwilight · 2012-04-29, 16:43

I'll just head off the entire possible argument by clarifying that in my personal beliefs, not even Hitler would deserve the fate of a Magical Girl. It's worse than anything HE did because atleast what he did to his victims ended with them dying. Puella Magi aren't even that lucky most of the time.

Diveman · 2012-04-29, 22:12

Hitler was a magical girl, calling it now.

AuraTwilight · 2012-04-30, 01:31

No, but Anne Frank was.

"I wish for the Jews to have their Israel."

"Done!" /Holocaust

Snork · 2012-05-01, 03:52

Indeed, in case of famous female figures, guessing their wish may be a lot easier than with some H.N.Ellies.

2012-04-27, 12:32	Link #228
Witched Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011	Oh snap. Spoiler for !: Releasing the soul gems.. Egad. They're probably going to all end up Witches, which would be insane.. Can't wait for the chapters to come out + How this'll end.

2012-04-27, 18:23	Link #231
Solace (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006	It's hard to feel sympathy for most of them, given what they've done. Perhaps it's a bit ironic that the monsters in this story aren't the aliens or the witches. __________________

2012-04-28, 14:13	Link #235
AuraTwilight The True Culprit Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The Golden Land	I'd scratch off the 'almost'. No one deserves being murdered by psycopathic magical monsters, BECOMING psychopathic magical monsters, being mindraped and soulraped, becoming zombies, or... __________________ When the Silent Spirits Cry: An Umineko/Silent Hill crossover fanfiction http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=4565173&postcount=531

2012-04-28, 14:34	Link #236
Snork Twilight lander Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Minsk, Belarus	Well, I put "almost" to safebelt against people who might start raising Oriko topic. Despite the fact that she didn't quite deserve her fate either (and never deserved the circumstances that led her to contracting in the first place ) __________________

2012-04-29, 16:43	Link #237
AuraTwilight The True Culprit Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The Golden Land	I'll just head off the entire possible argument by clarifying that in my personal beliefs, not even Hitler would deserve the fate of a Magical Girl. It's worse than anything HE did because atleast what he did to his victims ended with them dying. Puella Magi aren't even that lucky most of the time. __________________ When the Silent Spirits Cry: An Umineko/Silent Hill crossover fanfiction http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=4565173&postcount=531

2012-04-13, 20:57	Link #221
deadsea Member Join Date: Apr 2011	So who is the bad guy? And how nico fake and satomi turn into witches without any sign of corruption? I think that Clones are defective or Nico is using others soul gems... For the recents chapters . Damn are too short !

2012-04-15, 21:08	Link #223
Diveman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011	BTW, the theory of all of them being clones isnt that crazy. Satomi's gem didn't show any corruption when she turned into a witch either (Just like Nico's)

2012-04-23, 22:12	Link #224
deadsea Member Join Date: Apr 2011	what's about the new chapter name ? Strawberry rissoto Maybeeeee homura appears and kill kazumi foreverr and the other pleiades for being soo lesbians okno. Somebody has the chapter 15 raw?

2012-04-24, 07:42	Link #225
Diveman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011	I was also thinking the one who appeared on the lighthouse was one of the girls from madoka, but who knows. No ch 15 raws, this is the explanation btw: I have raws of the chapter, but I have to pay to release them, so I'm just going to release the script (with notes about the art and context) right now. I'll update this post with the Share raw when they get uploaded. so yeah...sad face. Anyways, ch16 comes out today in japan, I hope it brings a new plot twist to this already twisted series.

2012-04-24, 22:21	Link #227
Diveman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011	oh shit!!!!! now we're getting to the good part... 1 more month, damn!!!!!!!!!

2012-04-27, 14:09	Link #229
Diveman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011	You know, I really REALLY want a happy ending for all the girls, but this is Kazumi and it prob wont happen. I feel sorry for kazumi, she kinda doesnt deserve anything that has happened to her.

2012-04-27, 15:24	Link #230
Witched Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011	It's pretty brutal, mysterious (compared to the anime), and a bit more crazier. If they had a happy ending, after all this... That'd be hard to accomplish.

2012-04-27, 19:07	Link #232
deadsea Member Join Date: Apr 2011	All girls turn into witches would be epic!! i cant understand why kazumi want release them?? After all they cant revert the process Qb said that, it´s impossible !! Also i wanna know more about Nicco. Spoiler for Ch 16 images:

2012-04-27, 21:47	Link #233
Diveman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011	I think what Kazumi is trying to do, is just to call their attention so that they can fix their "personal issue" once and for all, and she's using the pretext of releasing the soul gems, because there's no way the girls will allow that. Still, Kazumi didnt do anything wrong, she just died and became a witch. Even Satomi is a "victim", because she just snapped with the idea of becoming a witch, she just lost it (like Mami in the alternate world in madoka). Nico is of couse hiding something, but we don't know what. I think it would have worked if Airi hadnt struck that Evil seed inside kazumi's head. We still don't know the origin of Evil nuts, even though probably is QB himself (helped by nico maybe?)

2012-04-29, 22:12	Link #238
Diveman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011	Hitler was a magical girl, calling it now.

2012-04-30, 01:31	Link #239
AuraTwilight The True Culprit Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The Golden Land	No, but Anne Frank was. "I wish for the Jews to have their Israel." "Done!" /Holocaust __________________ When the Silent Spirits Cry: An Umineko/Silent Hill crossover fanfiction http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=4565173&postcount=531

2012-05-01, 03:52	Link #240
Snork Twilight lander Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Minsk, Belarus	Indeed, in case of famous female figures, guessing their wish may be a lot easier than with some H.N.Ellies. __________________