2006-07-13, 08:04 | Link #101 |
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Satou scares me. Not so much as being a hikikomori that hasn't socialised with the outside world for 3-4 years, but he actually seems mentally unsound. Harboring a paranoia of people talking about you or conspiring against you, receiving messages from television, halluciations, social isolation. These are all telltale symptons of schizophrenia.
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2006-07-13, 09:00 | Link #102 | ||
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2006-07-14, 06:29 | Link #104 | |
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In the manga he's a drug-addict, too. As a hikikomori myself, I can say that years of isolation does crazy things to your mind. |
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2006-07-14, 12:22 | Link #105 | ||
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Arg, the Animesuki forums were iffy yesterday. I couldn't access the forums as I kept getting this gateway connection (504) error. I wasn't the only one right?
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2006-07-14, 18:45 | Link #106 | ||
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In my book-reading binge once, Crime and Punishment was among the first ones I've read. It took me three stutters before I managed to read the book, but it wasn't as difficult as The Sound and the Fury: it only was quite heavy, and I didn't have the mental fortitude in those tries before to persevere throughout the book. It's a very potent psychological analysis by one of the greatest masters of literature. However, Raskolnikov was plagued by hunger and poverty that strengthened his isolation from society. It wasn't that he was anti-social; we often see him fall asleep anywhere, and that's because he was poor - the poverty was a factor that led him slowly (as I saw it) to what he did (murder a miserable old lady). He acted for what he believed was right. I'm not condoning his actions, but he made a lot of choices, and it wasn't simply a non-motile one. The bottom line is, I'm much more sympathetic to a person who did what he believed was right - and reformed because it was wrong to many (to society and to God). I'm also much more sympathetic because of the background that he has. He swam in the mire of poverty, not unlike Satou who enjoyed living a comfortable life. Bah. It's hard to explain a tome with such pastiches of meaning in it; I've only gone understood the psychology partly, but there is also religious suggestion and nationalism (if I remember correctly, a raskolnik is a religious schistic). I'll stop there.
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That's also a rather unfair example. Kolbe a real person and is about as selfless as they get. Can't get any higher moral ground then that! Satou's a character from a light novel that has delusions of talking furniture Quote:
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In case my point in everything hasn't been clear enough, I'm trying to say is wait a few episodes in. Honestly, formulating intense hatred or intense love is not something that can really be done with only seeing the character for less then a half an hour. What about that girl he had a crush on? What happened with that? What's up with that class rep? They all had connections to Satou. Wouldn't it make more sense to see what happened with them when condemning/exalting Satou? |
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2006-07-15, 01:59 | Link #108 | |
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2006-07-15, 09:50 | Link #109 |
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Well, I just watched ep 1. I can understand how can someone get to Satou's condition, and I concur with what some previous posters said that once a mind starts functioning in a certain counter-productive way, it can't change on its own, it needs help and stimulation. Plus, we should refrain from passing judgment to mental patients as being "trash", "at fault", etc. And just for the record, no, preferring staying home to whatever other means of entertainment is ok as long as you can still function effectively in society (be efficient at work, be able to socialize successfully, be able to attend to your own needs -food, sleep, whatever, etc).
I haven't read the manga, but I'll be watching this.
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2006-07-20, 01:55 | Link #112 | |
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Hoo, a remix of Odoru Dame Ningen? I love that song.
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2006-07-20, 08:57 | Link #113 | |
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I personally pity Satou and people like him, they are so disconnected from those around them that they miss out on being the social being that is man. Don't think too much and do more. Mind you that solitude is not a bad thing, but I'd have to go into spiritualism, things like self-reflection, inner growth, humbleness as a human and stuff like that (read: not necessarily religion) |
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2006-07-20, 09:15 | Link #116 |
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At least most dismissing you is better than all being pissed off. From my experience (yours will definitely differ), people prefer others saying stuff direct to their face than being laughed at behind their backs.
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2006-07-20, 10:41 | Link #117 | |
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2006-07-20, 10:44 | Link #118 |
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Eh, that's an unfair comparison. I prefer this one : People prefer others being empathic than saying stuff directly to their face. It's not what you say really, it's the way you say it and ultimately how the person perceives you. The best of intentions won't reach someone in depression with just this : "you're depressed, life is tough, get over it on your own." Even if you sincerelly care, you won't accomplish anything if you can't reach the other person, and direct confrontation can work on some occassions but it's best to try more indirect approaches. Direct confrontations more than usually invoke defensive mechanisms and it's the last thing you want.
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