Death Note Episode 21 Discussion / Poll

[monir]

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[aohige]

The episode ended exactly where I figured it would end.
They cut out like HALF the lines though.
It's interesting that the story can still flow exactly the same with 50% of dialogs cut.　

Spoiler:

Finally, the identity of Yotsuba Kira is revealed.
As well as return of a familiar grim reaper...

But the important part of this episode is: Misa + Nurse cosplay = WIN

[Shiroth]

Spoiler:

Yeah, this is a very important part of the story - mainly because its the return of my Rem. <3

Edit: What a great episode, just as could as i thought it would be.

I love the role Misa plays in this episode, she really can be a great character when she wants to be, full of moe and love. Of course i'd say this episode was 100% quality viewing because Rem is back in the story, but its a huge story change. People have been saying over the past few weeks how they'd found this part of the story a lil' boring compared to what happened in the past - well after this episode, you'll understand that you're still watching the all loving Death Note.

Spoiler for Preview:

Looks like we're getting the team after the Yotsuba Kira, and i can't say anymore.. :3

[Kaoru Chujo]

Great to see Rem back. Great to see Misa in action. Great to hear Hirano Aya making the characterization work, at least for me. I'm feeling as if the voice, which seemed out of place at first, is coming into its own. But of course I'm biased.

Spoiler for spoiler for future eps:

I remember from her blog how happy Hirano Aya said she was to have Rem's VA, Saitou Kimiko, another woman, back on the largely male set. I guess it was when they were recording this or last week's episode.

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[SnEptUne]

Indeed. I finally caught up with you people :P I just finished episode 21, and the story seems to go in a different direction than I had first anticipated. It seems very possible that Light will get back his note now that Rem is on his side. However, I doubt he will gain back his bitter memory.

On the other hand, L is eyeing Misa funny again. But that's just L, he likes to suspect anyone who doesn't act according to his anticipations. Maybe I am biased, but I just can't stand his egoistic attitude.

[aohige]

Originally Posted by SnEptUne

Indeed. I finally caught up with you people :P I just finished episode 21, and the story seems to go in a different direction than I had first anticipated. It seems very possible that Light will get back his note now that Rem is on his side. However, I doubt he will gain back his bitter memory.

On the other hand, L is eyeing Misa funny again. But that's just L, he likes to suspect anyone who doesn't act according to his anticipations. Maybe I am biased, but I just can't stand his egoistic attitude.

Well.... despite how you personally feel about it, he's right.

Spoiler:

Misa's attitude changed, because she is in league with original Kira's plan again, and back as a suspect.
You don't like L noticing that? Well, you seem to forget he's life is in danger. And the fact that Kira and 2nd Kira are both mass-murderers.

You want him to not fear that, or care for strange attitude changes and actions from ones he suspect (and is right) to be those killers?

I would like to see how YOU would react if you were to be working with two suspects who you suspect to be mass murderers, and their wish is your death.

[ThoHell]

Not a bad episode! It seems like Death Note is returning back to the way it use to be.

Spoiler for ep 21:

I gotta give props to Misa, but I think the way she went about it was bad. Gave herself away, and L noticed her change. But I'm glad to see her return, now Light needs to hurry up and be revived!

Can't wait for ep 22, the preveiw looked good. I'm guessing with the apple being smashed maybe Ryuuk is coming back or something, since he alwasy seems to revolve around apples.

[SnEptUne]

Originally Posted by aohige

Well.... despite how you personally feel about it, he's right.

Whether he is right or not is irrevelant. Doubting people is easy, it is trusting each others that takes courage.

Spoiler:

Misa's attitude changed, because she is in league with original Kira's plan again, and back as a suspect.
You don't like L noticing that? Well, you seem to forget he's life is in danger. And the fact that Kira and 2nd Kira are both mass-murderers.

You want him to not fear that, or care for strange attitude changes and actions from ones he suspect (and is right) to be those killers?

I would like to see how YOU would react if you were to be working with two suspects who you suspect to be mass murderers, and their wish is your death.

I believe L think everyone is a suspect unless they have proven otherwise. It is easy to doubt people, it is trusting each other that takes courage. He may find it odd that somone isn't acting like him/herself, but people's attitude changes over time. L like to play safe, I have no problem with it. But the way he offend people is why he is always alone. It has nothing to do with his intelligent, his social attitude is what made him an outcast.

On the other hand, you assume too much about me. I respect that L is scared for his life, but mass murderers or not, they are still people and should be respect as a fellow human being.

[Shiroth]

Originally Posted by SnEptUne

I believe L think everyone is a suspect unless they have proven otherwise.

If you truly think that, they you don't understand just how good L is.

L isn't ranked at being the best because of nothing you know, thats easily understandable thanks to the series, and noticing the change within Misa just shows how good he is.

[FlashCE]

My favourite episode since Light lost his Death Note.

Epic, epic, and epic win.

One thing I don't get.

Spoiler:

How does Misa "killing" the guy prove that she has the shinigami eyes? Uchigi (SP?) showed her the guy's picture, as well as name, right?

[Jaden]

in reply to FlashCE:

Spoiler:

It doesn't really prove it, but Higuchi probably knows that the second Kira had shinigami eyes from the Sakura TV incident, and Misa introduced herself as the second kira and made Higuchi believe it by having Rem kill someone.
Rem doesn't like Higuchi so she hasn't told him anything unnecessary, so Higuchi thinks of Rem as the original Kira's (Light's) Death god. Higuchi used to think that the second Kira was memorywiped or captured for good, but Misa makes it seem like she was never caught and she never lost her ownership of the note.

[FlashCE]

Thanks.

I demand more appreciation for Misa in nurse outfit.

[Andu]

A nice ep but i still think this part is the most boring.
I loved the expression on the one's face (didn't really catch the name) who dressed up as Misa when she wanted to go on that ride...
I gave it a 9 ....

[Kaioshin Sama]

I think I'll turn this into a PM.

[SealedTears]

Spoiler:

when i saw that misa said "im the secound kira" i tough wtf omg what did u do now, the very fact that she said that cud leade to her death. if L finds out that she calld her self the secound Kira ( and that rem kills the person) but L woudent know about a shinigami anyways so everything points at misa AGEND. this time she probly wont get off to easy, and that the "new kira" know her name so he can kill her at anytime. i just cant exsplain how i feel now after seeing that, well i just got to wait for the new episode

EDIT: misa in nurse outfit <3

[Mueti]

I liked the ep, it was the first after Light's loss of his Death Note that didn't bore me. And Misa did surprisingly well, I only hope L doesn't ask too much about how she got the confession from that new Kira guy.
Seems like the series is finally coming out of stagnation.

[Deathkillz]

misa in nurse outfit...hotness!

Spoiler:

whow...rem is playing a dangerous game there...i wonder if she is acting on her own or is actually going along with light's plan (before his brain was wiped clean) ~
misa...i smell trouble...she is really going to dig a bit too deep and get herself in some serious pinch of a situation...

light is beginning to notice that "kira" might have the same mind set as him...and i think L is going to figure that out sooner or later...

[SnEptUne]

Originally Posted by Shiroth

If you truly think that, they you don't understand just how good L is.

L isn't ranked at being the best because of nothing you know, thats easily understandable thanks to the series, and noticing the change within Misa just shows how good he is.

Indeed, I don't understand how good L is. He maybe a capable detective, but as a person, he is no better than Light. Instead of trying to convince Kira to stop killing, he taunts Kira to hope that he would kill someone so that he can capture him.

Both L's and Light's ability is overhyped. Anyone who care would notice the change within Misa. Moreover, as far as I can tell, most of their tactics are full of holes and inefficient. But since this is an anime, I wouldn't argue about it.

[QUOTE=SealedTears;855200]

Spoiler:

when i saw that misa said "im the secound kira" i tough wtf omg what did u do now, the very fact that she said that cud leade to her death. if L finds out that she calld her self the secound Kira ( and that rem kills the person) but L woudent know about a shinigami anyways so everything points at misa AGEND. this time she probly wont get off to easy, and that the "new kira" know her name so he can kill her at anytime. i just cant exsplain how i feel now after seeing that, well i just got to wait for the new episode

Spoiler:

She may be taking risk, but even if she said she is a second Kira, it wasn't sufficient for anyone to capture her, even with all the previous evidences. For all people know, she could be lying in order to get the real Kira to disclose himself. Moreover, there is no reason/benefit for the new Kira to kill her. Sadly, in this anime world, or in some part of the world, if one happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, one could end up in jail.

[Xcomp]

We're awfully getting close to that part of the story now

And quite a difference from the Manga during Higuchi's drive.

[psycho bolt]

I think Misa has done a very stupid thing. Now L will suspect and Light is starting to worry. Can't wait to see the reaction of L in the next episode. I also think watching the OP and End was interesting than the first time I watched.