2008-05-12, 21:29 | Link #983 |
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I don't know, maybe it's the dues ex whispering in my ear but I think Suzaku is a clearly better pilot, and when motivated and pi$$ed he's prolly the best in this series...I think this ep kinda showed that a disinterested Suzaku verses an adrenaline-pumping Karen giving it all she's got still ends up being a wash of sorts, then when they both put the fight on the back-burner to save Nunally, Zero respectively you lose a little more perspective...Additionally I think Suzaku has proven his ability in a variety of different fight situations, while Karen seems pretty much the queen of close-combat melee...If she were to pilot Lancelot I'd think we'd see far less ranged pwnage (which Suzaku provides)...Another advantage to her fighting style is her power-claw which allows her to be far more aggressive because her main weapon can be utilized after just a grab or as a surprise to unsuspecting opponents...
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2008-05-12, 21:30 | Link #984 |
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But will she be as good piloting straight up as opposed to crouched over? Some people find themselves better doing something one way while another person perfers to do something another way. For example, when playing Super Smash Brawl, I perfer using a gamecube controller. I can still play fine with a wii remote, but not as good as I can play with a gamecube controller.
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2008-05-12, 21:47 | Link #986 |
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The only way we could find out is if either Kallen steals a copy of the Lancelot or Suzuku steals a copy of the Gurren, and they fight it out. Or even better, Kallen steals the Lancelot, and while she does, Suzuku steals the Gurren so that it will be Kallen in Lancelot vs. Suzuku in Gurren.
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2008-05-12, 22:06 | Link #987 | |
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You got Kallen screaming and howling like some berserker with Suzaku being the quiet warrior himself (he doesn't do that much screaming anyways). When Euphie died, all gloves were taken off and he literally became a rampaging tiger, destroying everything in his path. I mean when you see this battle none of the Knights nor Guilford were even taking her seriously. Now that they know what she is capable of they'll up the challenge defintely. |
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2008-05-12, 22:11 | Link #988 |
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Suzaku is pretty clearly the better pilot, I'd say. Like, take episode 8 from the first season for example. Kallen's a sort of in your face, deal with what's in front of her fighter. I very much doubt she'd be able to perform the sort of tactical, back and forth advance Suzaku demonstrated in the tunnel, or see enough of the big picture to pull back and aim for specific targets. She's also not prone to doing the sort of acrobatic tricks that we've seen Suzaku or Rolo perform, preferring instead to brute force things with her radiation arm, both offensively and defensively. Kallen pretty much always prefers to approach her enemies straight on, while Suzaku regularly engages in deking out strategies such as the one that got him captured in episode 24.
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2008-05-12, 22:16 | Link #989 | |
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2008-05-12, 22:22 | Link #990 | |
what Yagi said
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It's like car racing. Sure, there are great drivers out there, but the difference between the great ones and the others is much smaller when you put a great driver in an inferior vehicle like the others drive. |
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2008-05-12, 22:24 | Link #991 |
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Beserker Suzuku is better than Kallen, remember at the end of S1, where Suzuku was rampaging around looking for Zero, and Kallen tried to stop him, but Suzuku pretty much pwned her. I think Kallen managed to destroy one of Lancelot's arms, but than Suzuku destroyed Gurren's radiation arm and only weapon, thus rendering him the winner. He would have killed her, if Lelouch didn't show up, challenge him to a 1v1 duel, than use the school as a hostage in order to lure the Lancelot into a trap.
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2008-05-12, 22:26 | Link #992 | |
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I believe Kallen is as good as any KotR. Suzaku just don't count.
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2008-05-12, 23:23 | Link #993 | |
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as for the piloting skills I'd say Kallen is the better pilot, the reason why is the somewhat similiar case of Amuro Ray. now we all know what that unlike Kallen, Amuro started off with a mech better than anyone else's(but it should be noted the differance isn't as great as that as the difference between lancelot and sutherlands/burais), but he faced dangerous pilots such as Char, Ramba Ral,Black tri stars, and etc, not to mention Zeon developed suits on par or superior to the gundam like the gelgoog and zeong. facing these strong opponents made Amuro a better pilot. now how is that similiar to Kallen? well unlike Amuro, Kallen had an inferior mech at the start and she did pretty well considering she went up against good pilots in better machines like Jerimiah. then when she gets the guren her mech is that superior to the enemy mechs. so what I'm saying is we can acknowledge her and Amuro is because they faced real challenges unlike Suzaku and*cough*Kira yamato*cough*. I'm either gonna get alot of good rep or alot of bed rep for this. by the way does lancelot have the ejection thing now? @tenken627 that's what I'm saying. in the cases of Suzaku and Kira Yamato it's more machine than man.
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2008-05-12, 23:34 | Link #994 | |
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Anya asks if it was the knightmare but Gino himself notes that it's because of the pilot and that they'll have to keep on their toes. |
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2008-05-13, 00:00 | Link #996 | |
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Aside from excellent piloting skills has Suzaku actually shown any superhuman moves? And I do mean actual supernatural capabilities, not something that just makes him good at fighting. |
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2008-05-13, 00:07 | Link #999 | |
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The Machine turret had a lag time which Suzaku used to his advantage. By supernatural I'm talking about defying the laws of nature which Geass does. Because when he gets into that knightmare he's not doing anything superhuman which I am relating this thing to. |
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2008-05-13, 00:07 | Link #1000 | |
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And wingdarkness, you're still alive? Haha.
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