Medaka Box [Manga]

[Mura]

Spoiler for Chapter 179:

So it sounds like to me that Medaka will die after this fight since that style she used is temporary. Would that be correct?

I got pumped when Medaka unleashed that new mode, though that may be just me.

[Homura7]

Originally Posted by Mura

Spoiler for Chapter 179:

So it sounds like to me that Medaka will die after this fight since that style she used is temporary. Would that be correct?

I got pumped when Medaka unleashed that new mode, though that may be just me.

You're not alone. Every page from the first to the last had me on the edge of my seat.

Spoiler for spoiler:

It's even more intriguing now we know her life is only sustained up by her style and that is not sure Iihiko is gonna fall.

[Wolfenstein]

Wow. This was...really terrible. I'm at a loss for words.

There is a sliver of hope that the character dies after this, however, so there is something to look forward to.

[Randrak42]

HAHA and people thought that Jesu...I mean Medaka would stay dead? How adorable.

God, this chapter left a bad taste in my mouth...

[KLGChaos]

Oh look.. Medaka came back from the dead. What a twist! Not... you knew it was going to happen. She'll also somehow survive this whole ordeal.

As someone who's not a fan of Medaka, I didn't find the chapter all that great, but I'm sure her fans loved it.

[Homura7]

As much as some of you didn't like it, the use of vibrations to keep the body functioning, it makes sense that's her style, since her mother was a nurse.

But I know you only complain because you hate the character, so I won't start a discussion.

[Wolfenstein]

Our only hope has to be that the manga does not end so underwhelmingly.
I mean, damn. This chapter could've epitomized the generic shounen dance of the all-powerful main-character.

What a stark contrast to the rest of the manga(save the end of the JBWF), I thought one of the points was that it was a satire of the above dance, this whole time.

[Homura7]

^You don't know how this is going to turn out. You can complain after if you want.

[Randrak42]

Originally Posted by Kurusu-Shirudo

As much as some of you didn't like it, the use of vibrations to keep the body functioning, it makes sense that's her style, since her mother was a nurse.

But I know you only complain because you hate the character, so I won't start a discussion.

You do know that you can NOT like a certain part of the plot but still like the characters involved right? Not everyone's blind to flaws if they involve the characters or just look for them everywhere.

I like Medaka, she's not my favourite by a country mile but I don't dislike her (much less hate her) still I think this development is just...bad >_>

[Wolfenstein]

Originally Posted by Kurusu-Shirudo

^You don't know how this is going to turn out. You can complain after if you want.

If you don't like people's complaing, just ignore the comments.

However, you can't tell them to not express their feelings of the current chapter.

[Homura7]

Originally Posted by Randrak42

You do know that you can NOT like a certain part of the plot but still like the characters involved right? Not everyone's blind to flaws if they involve the characters or just look for them everywhere.

I like Medaka, she's not my favourite by a country mile but I don't dislike her (much less hate her) still I think this development is just...bad >_>

It's the same as when Kumagawa got killed by Munakata and came back to life. With the exception Medaka's injuries haven't healed, her body is crumbling and her blood vessels are her only medium to keep herself alive through her style, and for just a short time.

You heard Yuzuriha. Medaka can barely walk. How this is going to turn out remains a mistery and I'm still not sure this is going to kill Iihiko.

[Lupus753]

For half of this chapter, I have to say, "Brilliant! Another triumph!" Even though I don't always appreciate the philosophish stuff 100%. For the other half, I have to shake my fists at the heavens to angrily shout, "NISIOOOOOOOOO!"

In other words, I'm enjoying this a lot.

[Homura7]

^Hahaha, that's good.

You know, if it wasn't Nisio I would be sure Medaka would survive this, but it's Nisio we're talking about.

[Tyabann]

We've lost all hope for a decent ending at this point, I think, unless we go on for another hundred or so chapters.
See, ultimately, the problem is this: No matter how much Nisio tries to convince us that Medaka has changed as a person, she hasn't, and she never will.
I am not the first person to say this and nor is it the first time I've said it, but the manga would be far better off without her... at least this "End God Mode" has interesting implications.

Originally Posted by Kurusu-Shirudo

You know, if it wasn't Nisio I would be sure Medaka would survive this, but it's Nisio we're talking about.

You mean the guy who writes the most predictable outcomes to literally every single arc? The only part of Nisio that is unpredictable is the way things play out prior to the ending.
Also he's not the best or most consistent writer even from a technical perspective, note how he often has characters call out other character's names in place of actual dialogue, something that a lot of amateur writers love doing, not that Nisio is an amateur but still I find it very annoying, just thought I'd say

[Homura7]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

You mean the guy who writes the most predictable outcomes to literally every single arc? The only part of Nisio that is unpredictable is the way things play out prior to the ending.
Also he's not the best or most consistent writer even from a technical perspective, note how he often has characters call out other character's names in place of actual dialogue, something that a lot of amateur writers love doing, not that Nisio is an amateur but still I find it very annoying, just thought I'd say

Yeah, right, the Treasure Hunt arc was predictable you're saying? My ass! It's by far the most unpredictable arc along with the Flask Plan and this one. Hence why I'm telling you if it was other author I would have no doubt Medaka will survive this. But Nisio Isin is not your average mangaka.

[Endscape]

Originally Posted by Kurusu-Shirudo

It's the same as when Kumagawa got killed by Munakata and came back to life. With the exception Medaka's injuries haven't healed, her body is crumbling and her blood vessels are her only medium to keep herself alive through her style, and for just a short time.

I know, right? Seeing people's double standards and hypocrisy always amuses me.

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

We've lost all hope for a decent ending at this point, I think, unless we go on for another hundred or so chapters.
See, ultimately, the problem is this: No matter how much Nisio tries to convince us that Medaka has changed as a person, she hasn't, and she never will.

Funny, I had the complete opposite opinion of this chapter. I felt that I really saw Medaka's character growth here. The Medaka from before would have said something totally different.

[Homura7]

Originally Posted by Endscape

Funny, I had the complete opposite opinion of this chapter. I felt that I really saw Medaka's character growth here. The Medaka from before would have said something totally different.

At this point I would suggest them reread the series from the very beggining, so they can see how wrong is that "Medaka hasn't changed at all" statement.

[Wolfenstein]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

We've lost all hope for a decent ending at this point, I think, unless we go on for another hundred or so chapters.

I actually really, really, really don't want the manga to end in something like "Medaka beats Iihiko, everything is fine, Medaka and Zen get married, happy ending".

God, that'd be atrocious. I don't want the manga to end so underwhelmingly.

I'd really enjoy one or two last good arcs before the end.

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

See, ultimately, the problem is this: No matter how much Nisio tries to convince us that Medaka has changed as a person, she hasn't, and she never will.

Yeah...it's the same problem as me.

It's pretty clear that Nishio really wants you to love Medaka, to cheer for her, to be relieved when she comes back to life. He really wants you to think she's changed and blossomed into this amazing character.

Only problem is, people can't do that. Because they don't feel the change. Nishio really dosen't know how to write Medaka in a way that feels human to most, so they themselves can't change with her.

The pivotal difference between Medaka and Zenkichi/Kumagawa.

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

at least this "End God Mode" has interesting implications.

The final sliver of hope down the road, if you will.

Can you imagine how awesome the next arc would be if Medaka actually died for real? Just shut-up and take my imaginary money(since I'm not paying).

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Also, I have to say; Nishio, leave Shiranui out of this! Don't ruin her uniqueness by having her soften-up to everyone trying to save her at the last minute because of some generic shounen sacrifice bullshit of "I want to be friends!".
Sometimes the people who save you aren't people you'll like, and that's a reality that Shiranui could embrace, and Nishio could explore.

She's an unsociable and uncooperative minus who fell in love with one guy, even though she shouldn't have. If you take that away, you lose something to the genericness of Shounen. And keep-in-mind, there's a difference from that, to being ungrateful.

[Endscape]

Originally Posted by Kurusu-Shirudo

At this point I would suggest them reread the series from the very beggining, so they can see how wrong is that "Medaka hasn't changed at all" statement.

How very Plus of you to say that.

But seriously, that's probably pointless. People like that could reread the manga a 1000 times and they wouldn't see it, because they don't want to see it.

[ccie20012]

I actually really, really, really _WANT_ the manga to end in something like "Medaka beats Iihiko, everything is fine, Medaka and Zen get married, happy ending".
I look forward to such an this end.

But. Why not: Medaka beats Iihiko, everything is fine, ...... N Arc ... Medaka and Zen get married, happy ending