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rpgkiller999 · 2006-04-08, 14:54

I got a question, might be spoilish:

Spoiler:

Last_Hope · 2006-04-08, 15:08

I liked this episode a lot. Finally we got some fighting that involved characters that were moving. Not just standing still while powering up.

Archer went out with style, but when they are defeated. What happens with the heroes? Do they return to where they came from or do they die or...? Maybe it doesn´t matter that much but I´m curious.

Archer was my favourite in Fate/Stay Night aswell. Maybe I´ll just start hoping for him to return in one way or another. I don´t know the possibilites of that though.

monster · 2006-04-08, 15:14

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Originally Posted by dxgarten

A tribute to Archer

"Upset" is not enough to describe what I feel at the moment. I was hoping for a different path and instead this is what I got. On the positive side, the fight between Archer and Berserker was awesome. T_T

I feel exactly the same way you do.

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Originally Posted by Maids! Maids! Maids!

Spoiler for for Archer's identity. Big hints, actually:

I don't think I've seen anybody else do this (other than a fellow Servant). Or did I miss something here?

justinstrife · 2006-04-08, 15:15

They don't permanently die. They have a chance of being summoned by a Master in the next Holy Grail war. Saber/King Arthur was summoned in the last one and this one as well.

i0td · 2006-04-08, 15:34

This was a magnificent episode 10/10. Poor Tohsaka... This was truly devastating. I really liked Archer too. But did he end everything with a bang! The fighting lasted quite a bit, but nonetheless, very well presented.

ChronoReverse · 2006-04-08, 15:35

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Originally Posted by tragicsmile

After watching the sub again, I was wondering about why Archer just didn't keep volleying Berserker with Broken Phantasms after that initial hit with Caldabolg II. ^_^

But in any case, it was a great, though rather cheesy, episode. Don't get me wrong - Archer is my favorite male character in this series, but still shots like the one with angel-wing Kanshou and Bakuya just make me sigh.

I agree about the angel-wing part, I was like "Hmm, Gundam Archer, ugh," especially with the pose.

As for the first part, I wonder that too since now that we know who he is, why didn't he just blast Berserker with

Spoiler:

from range? Over and over XD

Shiroth · 2006-04-08, 15:45

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Originally Posted by ChronoReverse

As for the first part, I wonder that too since now that we know who he is, why didn't he just blast Berserker with

Spoiler:

from range? Over and over XD

That could have worked, but was Archer's plan to kill Berserker.. or just allow the others to escape?

monster · 2006-04-08, 15:52

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Originally Posted by Angelsama

That could have worked, but was Archer's plan to kill Berserker.. or just allow the others to escape?

He asked to be permitted to go all out.

Shiroth · 2006-04-08, 15:54

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Originally Posted by monstert

He asked to be permitted to go all out.

I know, but that doesn't mean kill.

Spoiler:

monster · 2006-04-08, 16:01

Really? I just don't think Archer has any misgivings about killing the enemy if he can do so. He's very into winning the war.

ChronoReverse · 2006-04-08, 16:04

Archer would've killed Berserker completely if he could. There wasn't any reason for him not to. For some reason he couldn't though.

justinstrife · 2006-04-08, 16:06

It wasn't that Archer couldn't. He just expended all of his mana since he was acting on his own without support and didn't realize about Berserker's noble phantasm until it was too late. Oh well. Was the best damn fight I've had the pleasure of witnessing. The UBW music in the background just sealed it for me.

Shiroth · 2006-04-08, 16:13

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Originally Posted by justinstrife

The UBW music in the background just sealed it for me.

Yeah, it was a good remix that was used.. went well with the anime.

stormy001_M1A2 · 2006-04-08, 16:16

No, Archer and Rin knew from start that to fight Berserker is an insane option. He did throw everything he has on Berserker but he is just too strong for Archer. Do remember that Berserker is a demi-god Hercules and Archer is juat

Spoiler:

Nevertheless, AFAIK in the gamestory Archer defeated Berserker 6 times, a notable achievement by itself considering that he is not a famous legend. He did not lose on purpose, he is fighting trying to win a miracle against impossible odds.

MarcusG · 2006-04-08, 16:20

After watching this episode, I think Archer is too cool for this series, I think Archer should have his own show. Berserker is broken. I dont understand why Berserker is still alive either. For some reason I think Archer could of killed Beserker or escaped numerous times, but instead he kept doing all of these special attacks and going all out. Was Archer planning to die.

Oh, doesnt Archer resemble Shoriou. they look like they can be related.

stormy001_M1A2 · 2006-04-08, 16:21

No, Archer did not plan to be defeated, He is using all his skills to the limit but Hercules Noble Phantasm is a body that can withstand A++ attack levels 12 times.

In short, he lost because he has no more ammunition left in the end. Unlimited Blade Works is his last resort weapon.

monster · 2006-04-08, 16:26

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Originally Posted by stormy001_M1A2

In short, he lost because he has no more ammunition left in the end. Unlimited Blade Works is his last resort weapon.

Doesn't that seem a bit contradictory?

IMSabbel · 2006-04-08, 16:31

I wonder..
Does this mean that berserker has only 7 "lives left"? Or are those 12 times in a certain timeframe?

Shiroth · 2006-04-08, 16:42

Berserker has 7 left, i wouldn't think after a certain about of time that it would go back to 12.

MarcusG · 2006-04-08, 16:42

I have one question that bothers me. When Archer fell down from the castle
and had flashbacks for Rin and Shirou. Archer said "and I thought I thrown them away" What did that mean?

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2006-04-08, 14:54	Link #101
rpgkiller999 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006	I got a question, might be spoilish: Spoiler: If Shirou recover his memory before all his injuries and use UBW right away can he actually won the battle against berserker?

2006-04-08, 15:15	Link #104
justinstrife Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Galt's Gulch Age: 44	They don't permanently die. They have a chance of being summoned by a Master in the next Holy Grail war. Saber/King Arthur was summoned in the last one and this one as well. __________________

2006-04-08, 16:06	Link #112
justinstrife Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Galt's Gulch Age: 44	It wasn't that Archer couldn't. He just expended all of his mana since he was acting on his own without support and didn't realize about Berserker's noble phantasm until it was too late. Oh well. Was the best damn fight I've had the pleasure of witnessing. The UBW music in the background just sealed it for me. __________________

2006-04-08, 16:16	Link #114
stormy001_M1A2 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia	No, Archer and Rin knew from start that to fight Berserker is an insane option. He did throw everything he has on Berserker but he is just too strong for Archer. Do remember that Berserker is a demi-god Hercules and Archer is juat Spoiler: Emiya Shirou the future disgruntled magi/swordsman hero Nevertheless, AFAIK in the gamestory Archer defeated Berserker 6 times, a notable achievement by itself considering that he is not a famous legend. He did not lose on purpose, he is fighting trying to win a miracle against impossible odds. __________________ My Anime Blog

2006-04-08, 15:08	Link #102
Last_Hope System/Web developer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Stockholm, Sweden	I liked this episode a lot. Finally we got some fighting that involved characters that were moving. Not just standing still while powering up. Archer went out with style, but when they are defeated. What happens with the heroes? Do they return to where they came from or do they die or...? Maybe it doesn´t matter that much but I´m curious. Archer was my favourite in Fate/Stay Night aswell. Maybe I´ll just start hoping for him to return in one way or another. I don´t know the possibilites of that though.

2006-04-08, 15:34	Link #105
i0td Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Desert, USA Age: 37	This was a magnificent episode 10/10. Poor Tohsaka... This was truly devastating. I really liked Archer too. But did he end everything with a bang! The fighting lasted quite a bit, but nonetheless, very well presented.

2006-04-08, 16:01	Link #110
monster Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	Really? I just don't think Archer has any misgivings about killing the enemy if he can do so. He's very into winning the war.

2006-04-08, 16:04	Link #111
ChronoReverse Senior Member Join Date: May 2004	Archer would've killed Berserker completely if he could. There wasn't any reason for him not to. For some reason he couldn't though.

2006-04-08, 16:20	Link #115
MarcusG Remember Law of Ueki Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Georgia, USA	After watching this episode, I think Archer is too cool for this series, I think Archer should have his own show. Berserker is broken. I dont understand why Berserker is still alive either. For some reason I think Archer could of killed Beserker or escaped numerous times, but instead he kept doing all of these special attacks and going all out. Was Archer planning to die. Oh, doesnt Archer resemble Shoriou. they look like they can be related. Last edited by MarcusG; 2006-04-08 at 16:39.

2006-04-08, 16:21	Link #116
stormy001_M1A2 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia	No, Archer did not plan to be defeated, He is using all his skills to the limit but Hercules Noble Phantasm is a body that can withstand A++ attack levels 12 times. In short, he lost because he has no more ammunition left in the end. Unlimited Blade Works is his last resort weapon. __________________ My Anime Blog

2006-04-08, 16:31	Link #118
IMSabbel Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003	I wonder.. Does this mean that berserker has only 7 "lives left"? Or are those 12 times in a certain timeframe?

2006-04-08, 16:42	Link #119
Shiroth Beautiful fighter. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: England, UK Age: 37	Berserker has 7 left, i wouldn't think after a certain about of time that it would go back to 12. __________________ MyAnimeList Twitter

2006-04-08, 16:42	Link #120
MarcusG Remember Law of Ueki Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Georgia, USA	I have one question that bothers me. When Archer fell down from the castle and had flashbacks for Rin and Shirou. Archer said "and I thought I thrown them away" What did that mean?