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View Poll Results: Mobile Suit Gundam 00 - Episode 22 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 151 | 62.66% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 52 | 21.58% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 22 | 9.13% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 9 | 3.73% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 2 | 0.83% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 0.41% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 1 | 0.41% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 1 | 0.41% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 2 | 0.83% | |
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2008-03-13, 09:48 | Link #602 |
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Didn't anyone notice that in this episode some material was reused, scene with the GN-X in circle formation, taking out the Fangs. I think it was the first time in gundam 00 that material was recycled, in a way that it was noticable. I hope that later episodes won't follow this trend, or else we end up with crap like GSD.
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2008-03-13, 10:12 | Link #603 | |
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1 Noticeable time out out of 22 episodes isn't too bad.
It would be almost an impossibility for 00 to use as much stock footage as GSD did(Dragoon Repaints,Strike/Impulse swaps,That scene where Impulse swings down with its Anti Ship Sword,the Akatsuki reflecting the Positron Cannon,and other's that I haven't named or have forgotten about). Quite a bit of ways to go before it gets to that point. Quote:
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2008-03-13, 10:47 | Link #604 | |
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Anyway, Trans-Am doesn't seem like an upgrade so much as a Limiter Off mode. The Exia probably had a limiter placed on the full potential of it's real GN Drive so that if Setsuna didn't turn out to be the type of pilot Aeolia was looking for then Exia wouldn't be as difficult to take down with Nadleeh's Trial System. Now that Aeolia thinks Setsuna is trustworthy he has removed the limiter to save his life. Whether it's permenantly off I'm not sure. Expect a blog review from me up sometime today folks. I have to go for one of them Job Interviews and then I'll get crackin'. |
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2008-03-13, 10:56 | Link #605 |
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Whoa there, bucko. You can knock him for starting a flame war but not for liking Kira. Dissing CE just to do so makes you every bit of the fanboy you're implying him to be.
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2008-03-13, 11:05 | Link #606 | |
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I mean with those it's just there I don't see it being detrimental to the entire series. |
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2008-03-13, 11:17 | Link #607 |
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^^, dude no need to be pissed. I just hope they didn't do it it just to save some cash. The thing is if no one notice it and no one points it out or cares about it, some clever people might think that the viewers don't really care about re-usage of certain scences. That was bascially happend to GSD, imo. Everyone were shouting "look cool gundam with super moves", but the animation was the same in every episode. Personally i think gundam 00 is a high quality anime, i just don't want it to go downhill, if you know what i mean.
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2008-03-13, 11:22 | Link #608 | |
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And you seem to be missing the point, there are some scenes which are simply reused because it fits it or there's no need to. With the GN-X's, that formation will only be used against the Fangs...so who else is there to use it against? Surely Zwei won't be fighting them. Or when someone launches, you don't need to make a new scene. GSD just went to the point that it was again, again, and again. With 00 most of the battles are different enough that they require various scenes. And if your that nitpicking they reused the scene where the Artillery Tieren fires a round in the desert battle from Ceylon island but again, how many different ways are there to show that? |
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2008-03-13, 11:35 | Link #609 | |
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The scence with the Artillery Tieren, i never noticed, because i don't have a good memory. |
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This is a discussion forum, not an appreciation thread where unpopular opinions are considered unwelcome, so it's unrealistic to expect any episode to go uncriticized. Besides, it'd be awfully boring to see a discussion thread where everyone expresses a uniform opinion. Quote:
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2008-03-13, 13:00 | Link #612 | |
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Imagine, if you will, what would have happened had Graham, sitting in a captured Gundam, been in the seat at just the right time? "Graham Special!" |
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2008-03-13, 13:28 | Link #613 | |
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I never claimed to be a UC Elitist which is what it seems you are trying to make me out to be.I never said all of CE sucked. I made a simple analogy.Since he can insult everybody by saying that the show is no more than AIDS,and anybody else that thinks otherwise is ignorant to what happens in Gundam,I should be able to criticize Kira as being a bland character in Seed Destiny. Believe it or not,you can dislike a character and not be totally blinded to other positives that doesn't revolve around your subjective opinion of what you may not like. |
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2008-03-13, 16:21 | Link #614 | |
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--- To me, 00 is a decent show. It lacks the focus on the main characters I'd expect from a Gundam series, but it has its strong points. One of those is the visual thing. The reused GN-X fotage in ep 22 was actually the first one I've noticed so far, so I really don't see the reason to make all the fuss. It indeed is much better than during the times of ol' CE episodes with dozens of reused mecha animations. |
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2008-03-13, 17:22 | Link #615 | |
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@Obi-Wan Hornets (Gundam 00-Hawt new kids on the block) vs. The Spurs (CE, Old and Tired)^^... That's kinda an inside joke so just ignore that folks...
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2008-03-13, 17:46 | Link #617 |
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Alright, Gundam 00 Episode 22 is up.
I've already discussed this episode a lot in the thread so I don't have a whole lot left to say that I haven't already. Next week I have a feeling we'll see the GN-ARMS. |
2008-03-13, 18:01 | Link #618 | |
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Off-topic: There's nothing wrong with criticizing Kira's character, but please don't use Obi-Wan's post as an excuse for this or any other action - it's already been deleted.
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2008-03-13, 19:19 | Link #619 | |
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After all, can you imagine if one of the Powers had gotten the Gundams, breached Aeolia's lair, and then had 4 Trans-am systems? Aeolia's dream of a unified world peace would occur, alright: a world order brought about by war and conquest by a single power. |
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2008-03-13, 19:20 | Link #620 | |
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And then you have the enormous amount of weak characters. Yes, Setsuna was a little boy who was forced into war and now he wants to stop other little boys from going through what he did. But all that's turned into is him saying "I am Gundam" a million times. He's had no real development other than his talks with Marina which tell us nothing more than his reason for fighting, and then the time when Lockon pulled a gun on him and he had to explain his past. But I want to know what characters are thinking, something a little more than a kid saying "I am Gundam" and then rushing off to fight some baddies. This show has failed in the character development department at the most epic of levels. Don't get me started on how the Gundams were stuck in the desert getting blasted for lol, nine hours until the Throne Gundams showed up to save them. This show hasn't built a whole lot on its plot, and I know it's not even halfway done, but by the halfway point of other Gundam shows, there was more buildup than 00 has had. 00 has nice animation, but thinner characters than CE had. Wake me up when the show starts going somewhere.
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