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It's a matter of risk vs. reward. Rolo is a big risk, but he's also a big reward. He provides an almost unbeatable advantage in any situation. Him killing Shirley, or any of the student council, was a pretty far out there thought to begin with. He was much less of a risk to those close to Lelouch, which is really all that mattered.
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2008-08-07, 16:18 | Link #1924 |
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Because you're thinking of it from after the fact. Think about it before the fact. The Student Council knew nothing, and weren't in much of a position to ever know anything. They posed no threat. Jeremiah threw a wildcard into the deck and everything went to hell.
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2008-08-07, 16:25 | Link #1927 |
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I see him as a cause, and an essential one at that, meaning it would not have happened if he hadn't been acting as Zero. Other causes existing or him not intending it to happen don't change that. He didn't mean to kill Shirley's father, and you could argue that it was partially Shirley's father's fault for not getting the hell out of there as soon as a battle started so close to where he was, but Lelouch is still at fault.
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So you're saying that Shirley would have still died like that if Lelouch weren't Zero? Nonsense. As for whether he should just give up as soon as someone gets hurt, that's something Lelouch has already resolved with himself. I didn't say he should stop being Zero, but he does have to accept responsibility for the collateral death he causes.
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Lelouch knows full well the collateral death he causes, and up until Shirley died he blamed himself for it. It was only after she died that he turned on Geass in his grief.
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As for the moral issues, I don't know where this monster/human thing comes from, but it is possible to be a revolutionary (terrorism is something else) and retain humanity. He pulls it off rather well. He does care about civilian casualties, he just doesn't see them as a hindrance. They are a necessary sacrifice of war. He doesn't have to be a monster to cause them.
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And yes, he did curse Geass, but he blamed himself just as much, which is why he took it upon himself to kill Euphy. He could have just let Kallen kill her.
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It's not like anyone apart from Kallen saw him do it. He could have just said he did it rather than take it upon himself. it struck me as righting his own wrong. He started her massacre, so he felt responsible for putting it down.
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