2012-11-10, 10:51 | Link #41 |
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Gurobuchi, huh? What i can recall from Fate/Zero and Madoka Magica series, all that guy can do is providing gruesome ending for the characters which is very facepalming for me (Kinda remember when i watched a guro scene in Fate/Zero DVD alone in my room and my big sis confiscated it afterwards).
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2012-11-10, 11:05 | Link #42 | |
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2012-11-10, 11:51 | Link #43 | |
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It goes back to the concept of telling a story, in the end people want closure, i think telling a story too long you get people who get bored and just want it to end. I can understand, that’s why i think the best story tellers are those who don’t get caught up in loving the character’s they create, to the point they are not willing to sacrifice them, but those who see the big picture. |
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2012-11-13, 03:31 | Link #44 | |
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It is not a story driven comic, it's a slice-of-today-story comic. It's like Simpsons. Or Newspaper comics that deals with a single theme of the day. There's no "dragging out stories", it's simply a comedy strip about "theme of the day". And it uses current events and topics as its theme, and pokes fun at it. New law passed in Japan to prevent bicycles on pedestrian walkways? Ok, let's have a story about modern bicycles! Just like say... South Park or aforementioned Simpsons.
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2012-11-13, 19:54 | Link #45 |
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I hope this isn't considered "off-topic", but on the flipside there seems to be something seeping in nowadays where a single cour of 12-ish episodes has become the norm, and the duo-cour 24-ish series are taking the sidelines.
Don't get me wrong, there are TONS of single cour series that achieve everything they need to in that time, but I feel as if sometimes they need to have it a bit longer. Guess it depends on content available and popularity overall, but it's just a note. Basically, don't exactly like TOO long myself, but sometimes things are TOO short. A good median is nice, depending on the series.
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2012-11-13, 23:25 | Link #47 | |
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2012-11-13, 23:54 | Link #48 |
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Exactly. That's why I dropped a lot of long running anime beyond 24 episodes. They are too long that you realized that your child is already beside you watching it... when you were just in college when you started watching it...
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2012-11-14, 01:28 | Link #49 | |
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Basically, all shows need to know when to stop, but it's very inevitable that there're many shows that know when to go on. |
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2012-11-14, 06:29 | Link #50 | |
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On the other side there are anime that are very long and yet have a proper ending, like Death Note, Monster, Legend of Galactic Heroes, and a lot of anime of the past when 40-50 episodes was the norm.
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2012-11-14, 07:24 | Link #51 |
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Might be him, more than likely it's also Shogakukan who want to keep Conan going because it's the best selling manga title from their Sunday magazine. Silver Spoon (FMA mangaka's next work) and Magi seem to finally be two hits that might approach its sales for that mag though... While Sunday is in 3rd place behind Jump and Magazine and they have no other big hits Conan will continue period... Shogakukan seem to have turned a corner with those two works and seem to have up to another 8 anime projects in work, though even if they all become hits I doubt Conan stops lol.
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2012-11-16, 19:16 | Link #52 | |
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Anyway, TS: In most cases I agree with you. I think Bleach, Naruto, Kenichi (this one could have been great if it was way shorter), Gintama, Kimi no Iru machi, Hayate no Gotoku, and Fairy Tail are all way too long and too repetitive (not that I've actually finished any of these). There are a lot of shounen manga like this and with very few exceptions they all become unreadable at some point. The most notable manga that I would consider as exceptions to this rule are TWGOK and One Piece. One Piece obviously suffers from some of the same issues as a lot of shounen fighters but one of the main failings that One Piece avoids, IMO, is the artificial feeling that the MC is the center of the universe and the most powerful being ever. I really love how the series is full of so many villains and factions that are constantly battling each other far more so that they fight the Strawhats, and you are usually unsure of who the Strawhats will fight next. It really gives you the feeling that the series takes place in a real universe not some narrow, shallow, universe that seems irrationally fixated upon the MC. Still following after 688 chapters and don't care if it goes for 688 chapters more. TWGOK to me is just brilliant in so many ways. In my opinion, it might be the cleverest harem comedy ever written. The author is always changing things up when they start to get boring and Keima is one of the most interesting Harem MCs ever. It's 209 chapters in and I still look forward to it every week. To a lesser extent: Cage of Eden is another one that I still follow, because, although it has been dragging on for a while now, the essential mystery of this manga and the rare moments that are terrifying, have kept me on the hook. To a much, much lesser extet: Nurarihyon no Mago is a very flawed manga, but for a lot of reasons, I think this is much better than a lot of long running shounen manga, which are more popular. The art is surprisingly good but what I find most compelling about the series is how scary it can be, something that Bleach and Naruto ever do for me. It's probably good that it's ending but I think this deserved 400+ chapters more than Bleach. D. Gray-Man I guess I'm mostly still reading this one because I know it will end soon but it was still a lot better than Bleach.
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2012-11-22, 22:51 | Link #53 |
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I'm one of those weird individuals that never think a fictional story can drag on for too long. If I had my way, no fictional story I've watched/read would ever end.
It pains me at the lack of huge epics these days, as everything seems to be packaged in disposable bites, whether it be books or shows. I'd go off on an old-man tangent relating to attention spans, but I'll restrain myself. Real life "stories" dragging on too long? Oh, hell yes. But, fictional ones? Nope!
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2012-11-23, 15:14 | Link #54 |
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I honestly think TWGOK dragged out the moment the main character had to recheck all the previous girls and I stopped reading there. I also think One Piece dragged out not in a "it should have ended a long time ago" kind of way but more like "the story should be a lot further along". The problem with One Piece is that the majority of its arcs have dragged out and this is slowly snowballing.
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2012-11-24, 03:14 | Link #57 | |
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Regarding those old-school animes, the reason why they had so many episodes probably because they had started before this whole "fit animes into a season" thing began, which is why they can go on for so long. |
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2012-11-28, 01:26 | Link #60 | |
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Sazae-san is a sit-com, not a story driven manga/anime. It's like saying Cheers is dragging out, or Seinfield. Or Married with Children.
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