2007-04-07, 11:29 | Link #1 |
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Hard drive wont show up
Last night, I expirenced a serious problem with my computer where it would suddenly not turn on becuase the boot file was not found. After awile, my system would tell me that the NTLDR file was missing. I eventually decided on reinstalling windows, but once the installation was complete I found that only one of my hard drive showed up on the device manager. I tried unplugging/plugging it in while the computer was on so that it could be detected, but nothing happen. Hardware wizard did nothing either. Could my drive possible be dead?
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2007-04-07, 13:28 | Link #2 |
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Try booting and hitting whatever key is required to take you into Setup. You should see an entry for hard drives. If the missing drive doesn't appear in the list, you have a couple of choices. First, make sure that the detection is set to "auto" or something like that so the computer will look at the drive. If the entry for that drive is set to "off," reset it to auto and see if that helps. Choose the appropriate key to save the setup information and reboot.
If the computer fails to detect the drive no matter what you try, it's probably dead. Windows can't see a drive that the computer's BIOS cannot detect.
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2007-04-07, 17:12 | Link #4 |
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Maybe it got no drive letter assigned in Windows. And you have to do this manually. In control panel -> administrative tools -> computer settings (or something like this) -> drives you will find a list of all drives Windows does find. You can also see, if/what driver letters are assigned to them. If there is one drive having no drive letter assigned, choose one manually.
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2007-04-08, 12:42 | Link #6 |
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You could go into disk management and see if the missing drive is there by right-clicking in my computer (this can be done either from the icon on your desktop if you have one on there or through the one in the start menu) select manage and then select the disk management option and you should then see all the drives that are connected to your computer if they are active or not and if you see your missing drive then you'll have to do one of there two things (or you may have to do both).
Assign the drive a letter like jinto lin has suggested or (and I can guess that this will be the correct course of action) you might have to initialize the drive (since you did say that you did reinstall your OS) |
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2007-04-08, 19:51 | Link #8 |
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It sounds like the drive is dead. If it isn't a matter of mechanical failure (the drive's motors/reader heads), then the drive's onboard controller was probably ruined, which would explain why it isn't showing up on any computer. How old is the drive, and was it making any weird sounds shortly before your problems occurred? Or, were there any power surges or any other events like that that occurred in that time frame?
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2007-04-09, 00:56 | Link #10 |
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Statistics show that the highest rate of failures in hard drive occur when the drives are 0-6 months old, and 5+ years old. You possibly got unlucky. The good news is that your drive should still be under warranty. I don't know that you can get the data on it back, but you should be able to get a new drive.
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2007-04-09, 08:39 | Link #11 |
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i think you should stop building computers w. anyway, you are running xp on both computers, right? the power plug was in the right way, right? if so and both computers did not recognize the hard drive then it sounds like it was fried when your computer failed or was the cause of the failure. when that happened, you did not hear any pops or clicking did you? a broken hard drive can cause your computer not to start up, even if its not the master. I just had to replace my secondary drive. send it back and get a new one if you still have the reciept. but if you got it from new egg you MUST first call them and get a return number. be sure to right click your desktop - properties - screen saver - power, and choose a time for your hard drives also. you also might want to partition your new drive if its not going to be just video storage.
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2007-04-09, 08:48 | Link #12 |
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Hi, I might be next in line because my slave hard drive is 3 month old....and the most scariest part when I got my pc(with a crapy cracked os, no upgrades, crapy ram, no video card) I have no Idea what a hard drive is...and It crashed so many times....and one time I left my pc update windows but I left it in switch user mode so....when the update was done it automatically installed the updates and crashed..and the fire wall was gone...(I mean not even system restore can fix it.) and when It says reboot windows installed...and I thought yeah fix problem and then...It rebooted and It can't anymore boot..when it boot it crash again and again and again...that was the time when I was so noob at pc even now..hehe...sorry for the off topic..
Anyhow I can really relate to this person problem because I think I will be next in line with this incoming problem..(Hope not).. I don't do stressy things I just let Bitcomet download funsubs maybe games or watch fansub.....And I limit my activities..... So at what chance you think my hard drive fail...hehe...so far updated my windows and so far no crashes detected... Also when I looked at the Disk management and both my hard drives are healthy is it a good sign??? Finally what's much better internal hdd or external hdd?(In terms of durability.) One more thing if you unplug a external hdd and put it somewhere safe and left it their and plug it in again for about 1month will something happen to the drive.? cause I was thinking backing up files with an external hdd and puting it in storage for back up... Aha! how about putting all my files in an Ipod video 80gb but to expensive..hehe Last edited by toru310; 2007-04-09 at 09:03. |
2007-04-09, 10:19 | Link #13 |
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@Migufuchi Fusutsu,
You need not worry about your harddrive yet. The video you send me indicated problems with your RAM. Memtest found some areas in the memory that caused bitflips. So unless you fixed this problem, you can blame the RAM for the instabilities.
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2007-04-09, 12:47 | Link #14 |
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One thing i am doing to lessen the chance of drive failure is to make most of my drives external. You only need to turn on the one you need to use so less wear and tear on the drives you are not using, also reduce heat damage since the drives are now not all in place.
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If you want to find out your drive manufacturer, you have two ways you could go about it. The first is to physically look at the drive: there should be a manufacturer's label, stating the drive model, capacity, serial number, etc. Usually the company name is listed on there as well, but even if it's not, you can tell which company made it by the model number. The other way is through Windows. Go to the Control Panel, System, Devices, Device Manager. Expand your Disk Drives. You should see the raw model numbers. I have five drives, one is a Maxtor, one is a Seagate, and three are Western Digitals. For reference, the Maxtor says "Maxtor" in it (very old drive, they may not do that anymore); the Seagate identifies itself with "ST###########" and the Western Digitals are all prefaced with WDC (for Western Digital Caviar, I presume - Caviar being their HD line that I bought). Other companies that exist include Samsung and Hitachi, and I don't know what those would look like. You can Google for it or, if you're lost, post what you have here, and I'm sure someone can match it up. Quote:
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If turning drives on and off is your concern, it's relatively valid. However, note that you can have your drives spin down after a certain period of inactivity from Windows itself. If the drive spins down, even though it's still technically "on," for all intents and purposes it is mechanically off. It has to spin up again for you to access it. It's not a recommended course of action if you're accessing your drives frequently, but if you do have long periods of inactivity, it may be worth it. Personally, I just wish that I could set certain drives to spin down after X idle time, and have other drives always stay up (as opposed to having a system-wide setting)... if anyone knows how to do this, please let me know. I've tried some googling for it, but it doesn't seem like it's possible. Very nice signature, by the way.
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2007-04-09, 20:30 | Link #16 |
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@Ledgem yeah I can see the ST########## I was thinking of replacing the ram that is free with the computer because I think the ram is abnormal 224mb since they came form different manufactures I think they deny each other.. thanks for the info you are so pro..
As expected from Jinto Lin you know every answer in my problem was it because of the mass messages that I send computer related ehehe..Oh yeah...thanks! Last edited by toru310; 2007-04-09 at 21:58. |
2007-04-09, 23:52 | Link #17 |
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Since I don't want to hijack this thread, my answer is in http://forums.animesuki.com/showthre...t=44175&page=4
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However it sounds from Jinto's posting that the memory itself is flaky. Given how cheap memory is these days, it's probably worth pulling it and replacing it with a couple of 256 MB or 512 MB chips. More memory almost always improves overall performance, especially if you multitask several memory-hungry programs like browsers, office applications, Azureus, etc.
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