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SaintessHeart · 2011-02-23, 05:24

The thing is that both Chihiro and Tsukiyo are late captures in the later part of the story, so I don't that exactly state that they are goddess containers.

Unless you count in the girls' reappearances in the later chapters. Diana/Tenri is the first one, so we should start from there.

omimon · 2011-02-23, 05:27

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Originally Posted by MeoTwister5

So the halos appear when Tsukiyo is first detected, but not when Kanon is detected. In fact the halo does not appear at all during capture, and only when she's been cleansed.

Spoiler:

The idea that the halos must appear on detection looks disproven, but that the halos appear on the goddess remain.

Edit:

HOLY SHIT!

Spoiler:

Halo appears for Chihiro's first detection. Currently confirming if they appear during the rest of the route.

Actually an explanation for Kanon's discovery not having the circles is probably because she left already when Elsie showed that the skull was ringing. With that being said I think circles always appearing when targets get discovered is not disproven yet.

MeoTwister5 · 2011-02-23, 05:32

There are 6 goddesses right?

Edited my previous post because I found halos during the capture process at least once, for Chihiro. So far I haven't seen it appear even once for Shiori or Asumi, Yui I've seen as omimon posted, and Chihiro has at least two.

That means that, if this theory is corrected, omimon just pointed out Yui and I may have pointed out Chihiro. From this, the remaining goddess would be in either Shiori or Ayumi, however circumstantial evidence links similarities between Yui and Shiori. If Yui is indeed a goddess holder, then it makes Shiori more likely than Ayumi.

omimon · 2011-02-23, 05:39

Before anymore debating starts as to who has a goddess I want to mention that I would be REALLY pissed if all of the remaining goddesses are in Keima's past targets. I mean that would be too convenient. I would accept one more from the same school but not past target and the other two new characters. I'm still holding out for Miyako.

SaintessHeart · 2011-02-23, 05:40

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Originally Posted by MeoTwister5

There are 6 goddesses right?

Edited my previous post because I found halos during the capture process at least once, for Chihiro. So far I haven't seen it appear even once for Shiori or Asumi, Yui I've seen as omimon posted, and Chihiro has at least two.

That means that, if this theory is corrected, omimon just pointed out Yui and I may have pointed out Chihiro. From this, the remaining goddess would be in either Shiori or Ayumi, however circumstantial evidence links similarities between Yui and Shiori. If Yui is indeed a goddess holder, then it makes Shiori more likely than Ayumi.

I am betting Shiori-Yui-Ayumi. They fit the profile of Minerva (Wisdom), Mars (Masculinity) and Mercury (Messenger/Speed).

Pleaseletmebewrongforthefirsttwo pleaseletmebewrongforthefirsttwo....

P.S Now that I am reading through the manga again, there seems to be a number of weird yet subtle points to note :

Spoiler for Subtlety FTW:

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Originally Posted by omimon

Before anymore debating starts as to who has a goddess I want to mention that I would be REALLY pissed if all of the remaining goddesses are in Keima's past targets. I mean that would be too convenient. I would accept one more from the same school but not past target and the other two new characters. I'm still holding out for Miyako.

Bet on Mercury. And I don't think they are just the only goddesses....there has to be a bigger plot than just goddesses and Weiss. I believe the subtle points I have mentioned will eventually play a part in the story overall.

MeoTwister5 · 2011-02-23, 05:48

Okay I think I can confirm for now that no halos of the same pattern ever appear for Ayumi and Shiori, so far. However considering all possible combinations based on the remaining candidates assuming Keima is right, at least one of these will have a goddess.

So expanding and summarizing on Omimon-Kuroi-Meo Theory of the Goddess Halo:

1. All goddess hosts have had a halo pattern appear at least once.
2. The halos are a likely a sign of a goddess, but are not a requirement for one, thus do not necessarily have to appear.
3. Based on all possible combinations of candidates, and assuming Keima is right, one of the candidates have yet to reveal a halo to the audience, validating point 2 above.

Would this theory sound correct?

I have some papers to do so if anyone wants to check out the targets not on his list please go ahead and help.

SaintessHeart · 2011-02-23, 05:50

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Originally Posted by MeoTwister5

Okay I think I can confirm for now that no halos of the same pattern ever appear for Ayumi and Shiori, so far. However considering all possible combinations based on the remaining candidates assuming Keima is right, at least one of these will have a goddess.

So expanding and summarizing on Omimon's Theory of the Goddess Halo:

1. All goddess hosts have had a halo pattern appear at least once.
2. The halos are a likely a sign of a goddess, but are not a requirement for one, thus do not necessarily have to appear.
3. Based on all possible combinations of candidates, and assuming Keima is right, one of the candidates have yet to reveal a halo to the audience, validating point 2 above.

Would this theory sound correct?

I have some papers to do so if anyone wants to check out the targets not on his list please go ahead and help.

More or less. I am betting on personality profile instead of the halo effects; not a huge fan of technical indicators.

Though I seriously don't want Yui to have a goddess.

Unless having one makes Shiori fall for her.

omimon · 2011-02-23, 05:53

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Originally Posted by MeoTwister5

Okay I think I can confirm for now that no halos of the same pattern ever appear for Ayumi and Shiori, so far. However considering all possible combinations based on the remaining candidates assuming Keima is right, at least one of these will have a goddess.

So expanding and summarizing on Omimon's Theory of the Goddess Halo:

1. All goddess hosts have had a halo pattern appear at least once.
2. The halos are a likely a sign of a goddess, but are not a requirement for one, thus do not necessarily have to appear.
3. Based on all possible combinations of candidates, and assuming Keima is right, one of the candidates have yet to reveal a halo to the audience, validating point 2 above.

Would this theory sound correct?

I have some papers to do so if anyone wants to check out the targets not on his list please go ahead and help.

Now now, although I did notice the "effects" whenever Diana appears it was Kuroi Sabato who pointed it out when Apollo appeared. Can't take other people's credits.

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Originally Posted by SaintessHeart

I am betting Shiori-Yui-Ayumi. They fit the profile of Minerva (Wisdom), Mars (Masculinity) and Mercury (Messenger/Speed).

Pleaseletmebewrongforthefirsttwo pleaseletmebewrongforthefirsttwo....

I can already imagine Shiori and Yui reading yaoi together.

MeoTwister5 · 2011-02-23, 05:55

Well from a profile's angle they match their goddesses, while the halo theory approach supports the confirmed goddesses and does not disprove the remaining. The two approaches agree for Yui, not so much for Chihiro, and the halos have yet to appear for the two remaining candidates.

SaintessHeart · 2011-02-23, 06:08

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Originally Posted by omimon

I can already imagine Shiori and Yui reading yaoi together.

Mars : Wow! 300 years of slumber, and the human race has accepted true love in this way?
Minerva : Love is beautiful! I am glad the humans accepted the beauty of it wisely with no biasedness!
Apollo : Hurrah for universal love!
Diana : *facepalm*

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Originally Posted by MeoTwister5

Well from a profile's angle they match their goddesses, while the halo theory approach supports the confirmed goddesses and does not disprove the remaining. The two approaches agree for Yui, not so much for Chihiro, and the halos have yet to appear for the two remaining candidates.

Can someone assure me that I am wrong? I don't think I can accept the fact that a crossdressing bishoujo is a container for a goddess. All of the goddesses have abused their powers in one way or another (Diana telling Tenri that she messed with the weather, Apollo lending her musicality to augment Kanon's singing, and Vulcan animating objects to her will trying to kill "the traitorous three-timer" *), so if Yui gets a goddess, she would probably have a super-strength or a seductive charisma - both of which doesn't sound good for Keima (and especially Shiori).

* - Alliteration unintended.

omimon · 2011-02-23, 06:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintessHeart

Mars : Wow! 300 years of slumber, and the human race has accepted true love in this way?
Minerva : Love is beautiful! I am glad the humans accepted the beauty of it wisely with no biasedness!
Apollo : Hurrah for universal love!
Diana : *facepalm*

Can someone assure me that I am wrong? I don't think I can accept the fact that a crossdressing bishoujo is a container for a goddess. All of the goddesses have abused their powers in one way or another (Diana telling Tenri that she messed with the weather, Apollo lending her musicality to augment Kanon's singing, and Vulcan animating objects to her will trying to kill "the traitorous three-timer" *), so if Yui gets a goddess, she would probably have a super-strength or a seductive charisma - both of which doesn't sound good for Keima (and especially Shiori).

* - Alliteration unintended.

Woh woh woh, where did it say that Apollo augmented Kanon's singing?
Also:
Vulcan : Love between girls are beautiful.

SaintessHeart · 2011-02-23, 06:51

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Originally Posted by omimon

Woh woh woh, where did it say that Apollo augmented Kanon's singing?

It is hinted in 114, page 8. Apollo mentioned that it is a "good omen" for Kanon to have her, meaning which Kanon may have gotten a buff to her musical abilities with Apollo around.

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Also:
Vulcan : Love between girls are beautiful.

Minerva : But I think love between guys are more beautiful.
Mars : Doesn't matter. Loving both girls and guys at the same time is the best!
Apollo : Hurrah for universal love!
Diana : *double facepalm*

MeoTwister5 · 2011-02-23, 06:55

I just realized that there is contextual and textual indications that the halos may be true based on Keima's observations. I'll put a 4th caveat to the theory.

Omimon-Kuroi-Meo Theory of the Goddess Halo:

1. All goddess hosts have had a halo pattern appear at least once.
2. The halos are a likely a sign of a goddess, but are not a requirement for one, thus do not necessarily have to appear.
3. Based on all possible combinations of candidates, and assuming Keima is right, one of the candidates have yet to reveal a halo to the audience, validating point 2 above.
4. Keima observed that the goddesses likely emitted a special signal/wavelength that allowed differential detection by special sensors. The halos are likely symbolic representations of these signals emitted by goddess hosts, unobservable by the characters, but observable by the omniscient audience (readers).

So in a way the halos may be that feeling Keima is referring to, only we can see it as readers to give us a direction to go with.

NecocYaotl · 2011-02-23, 07:16

What with this sudden theory of halo pattern...

Tsukiyo is confirmed to have a goddess and we'll have color page next chapter. So I hope we'll get Tsukiyo and Luna color, like how Kanon got one after she was confirmed to have goddess.

Vulcanus had one of his leg broken → Luna had one of her leg stolen by a cat in Tsukiyo after.
I wonder if Wakaki planned this or it's just coincidence.

ellifeedn · 2011-02-23, 08:10

There is symbolism, and then there's reading too deeply into something.

D-Gold · 2011-02-23, 08:22

Why do I have a feeling someone from vintage will appear next chapter or fiore will escape from that bottle

MeoTwister5 · 2011-02-23, 08:29

I still think one of the other goddesses will come out and save Keima's ass. Most likely it'll be Diana, though I wouldn't be surprised it is was one of the remaining three.

~Yami~ · 2011-02-23, 08:41

Spoiler for new chapter:

Shadow5YA · 2011-02-23, 09:11

Busted...

I wonder how Keima will get out of this one other than explaining the truth.

omimon · 2011-02-23, 17:39

I'm more interested in how Keima is going to approach the other girls if they don't have goddesses. Yui aside since she loves him whether or not he is six timing, I doubt Ayumi, Chihiro or Shori will just brush this aside. It's be really sad if they actually seriously fall for him and then get super depress when they find out he was just messing with their feelings.

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SaintessHeart NYAAAAHAAANNNNN~ Join Date: Nov 2007 Age: 35	The thing is that both Chihiro and Tsukiyo are late captures in the later part of the story, so I don't that exactly state that they are goddess containers. Unless you count in the girls' reappearances in the later chapters. Diana/Tenri is the first one, so we should start from there. __________________ When three puppygirls named after pastries are on top of each other, it is called Eclair a'la menthe et Biscotti aux fraises avec beaucoup de Ricotta sur le dessus. Most of all, you have to be disciplined and you have to save, even if you hate our current financial system. Because if you don't save, then you're guaranteed to end up with nothing. Last edited by SaintessHeart; 2011-02-23 at 05:42.

2011-02-23, 05:32	Link #3403
MeoTwister5 Komrades of Kitamura Kou Join Date: Jul 2004 Age: 39	There are 6 goddesses right? Edited my previous post because I found halos during the capture process at least once, for Chihiro. So far I haven't seen it appear even once for Shiori or Asumi, Yui I've seen as omimon posted, and Chihiro has at least two. That means that, if this theory is corrected, omimon just pointed out Yui and I may have pointed out Chihiro. From this, the remaining goddess would be in either Shiori or Ayumi, however circumstantial evidence links similarities between Yui and Shiori. If Yui is indeed a goddess holder, then it makes Shiori more likely than Ayumi. __________________ Medical Student vs. Anime Last Exile - Fam the Silver Wing -

2011-02-23, 05:48	Link #3406
MeoTwister5 Komrades of Kitamura Kou Join Date: Jul 2004 Age: 39	Okay I think I can confirm for now that no halos of the same pattern ever appear for Ayumi and Shiori, so far. However considering all possible combinations based on the remaining candidates assuming Keima is right, at least one of these will have a goddess. So expanding and summarizing on Omimon-Kuroi-Meo Theory of the Goddess Halo: 1. All goddess hosts have had a halo pattern appear at least once. 2. The halos are a likely a sign of a goddess, but are not a requirement for one, thus do not necessarily have to appear. 3. Based on all possible combinations of candidates, and assuming Keima is right, one of the candidates have yet to reveal a halo to the audience, validating point 2 above. Would this theory sound correct? I have some papers to do so if anyone wants to check out the targets not on his list please go ahead and help. __________________ Medical Student vs. Anime Last Exile - Fam the Silver Wing -

2011-02-23, 05:55	Link #3409
MeoTwister5 Komrades of Kitamura Kou Join Date: Jul 2004 Age: 39	Well from a profile's angle they match their goddesses, while the halo theory approach supports the confirmed goddesses and does not disprove the remaining. The two approaches agree for Yui, not so much for Chihiro, and the halos have yet to appear for the two remaining candidates. __________________ Medical Student vs. Anime Last Exile - Fam the Silver Wing -

2011-02-23, 06:55	Link #3413
MeoTwister5 Komrades of Kitamura Kou Join Date: Jul 2004 Age: 39	I just realized that there is contextual and textual indications that the halos may be true based on Keima's observations. I'll put a 4th caveat to the theory. Omimon-Kuroi-Meo Theory of the Goddess Halo: 1. All goddess hosts have had a halo pattern appear at least once. 2. The halos are a likely a sign of a goddess, but are not a requirement for one, thus do not necessarily have to appear. 3. Based on all possible combinations of candidates, and assuming Keima is right, one of the candidates have yet to reveal a halo to the audience, validating point 2 above. 4. Keima observed that the goddesses likely emitted a special signal/wavelength that allowed differential detection by special sensors. The halos are likely symbolic representations of these signals emitted by goddess hosts, unobservable by the characters, but observable by the omniscient audience (readers). So in a way the halos may be that feeling Keima is referring to, only we can see it as readers to give us a direction to go with. __________________ Medical Student vs. Anime Last Exile - Fam the Silver Wing -

2011-02-23, 05:39	Link #3404
omimon Professional Hikkikomori Join Date: Feb 2009	Before anymore debating starts as to who has a goddess I want to mention that I would be REALLY pissed if all of the remaining goddesses are in Keima's past targets. I mean that would be too convenient. I would accept one more from the same school but not past target and the other two new characters. I'm still holding out for Miyako.

2011-02-23, 07:16	Link #3414
NecocYaotl Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010	What with this sudden theory of halo pattern... Tsukiyo is confirmed to have a goddess and we'll have color page next chapter. So I hope we'll get Tsukiyo and Luna color, like how Kanon got one after she was confirmed to have goddess. Vulcanus had one of his leg broken → Luna had one of her leg stolen by a cat in Tsukiyo after. I wonder if Wakaki planned this or it's just coincidence. __________________ 進撃の巨人

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ellifeedn Thinker Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New York	There is symbolism, and then there's reading too deeply into something.

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D-Gold Aurum Join Date: Apr 2010 Age: 30	Why do I have a feeling someone from vintage will appear next chapter or fiore will escape from that bottle __________________

2011-02-23, 08:29	Link #3417
MeoTwister5 Komrades of Kitamura Kou Join Date: Jul 2004 Age: 39	I still think one of the other goddesses will come out and save Keima's ass. Most likely it'll be Diana, though I wouldn't be surprised it is was one of the remaining three. __________________ Medical Student vs. Anime Last Exile - Fam the Silver Wing -

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~Yami~ a random Indonesian otaku Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Xanadu Age: 32	Spoiler for new chapter: yeah! finally Tsukiyo is positive.... looking for next chapter It's kinda surprising when Wakaki sensei revealed Tsukiyo as the third goddess I always predict that Shiori will be the third

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Shadow5YA Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010	Busted... I wonder how Keima will get out of this one other than explaining the truth.

2011-02-23, 17:39	Link #3420
omimon Professional Hikkikomori Join Date: Feb 2009	I'm more interested in how Keima is going to approach the other girls if they don't have goddesses. Yui aside since she loves him whether or not he is six timing, I doubt Ayumi, Chihiro or Shori will just brush this aside. It's be really sad if they actually seriously fall for him and then get super depress when they find out he was just messing with their feelings.