2013-02-06, 23:12 | Link #481 | |
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I don't really like it when fans treat moral characters as somebody more susceptible to the effects of the Idiot Ball. It's as if morality is an obstacle to thinking straight. The common variants I hated are like this: "So why doesn't he just kill him? He could come back to beat you, you know!" or "What an idiot, just kill him already! He's already become a bad guy, he's not your friend/lover anymore!" Hmm... I do think love triangles have been overused, but how else are you going to place obstacles in the relationship of the main pair asides overbearing parents, tragedy, and other factors? Chick magnets... I don't really mind them, but I do feel for people who do. The mentality I'm seeing is "you have to earn your harem" either by kindness (which is kinda overrated for some) or by sweet talk or showing feats of physical prowess (the latter is often the more preferable method). But there ARE people who attract chicks like it's nobody's business without even knowing they could or even "a shred of logic" behind it (how could such an uninteresting guy get so many hot girls?). Uh, so what is "interesting" to us, anyway? Is it "douchebag" or "anti-hero"? Is making an MC darker and edgier the only way to make him interesting and nice guys can never become interesting just because? And yes, I hate that "boys and girls can't be friends, only romantic partners" bit. Sakurasou has this particularly bad (as far as I am concerned), because people keep shipping Sorata/Nanami despite their interactions indicating that they're nowhere near that. YET. It didn't help that she's cast as the ideal waifu for anyone, not just Sorata. But it's mostly because he's currently "committed" to Mashiro, so... I have known a lot of boy-girl pairs in real life with no romantic feelings for each other whatsoever (bonus points if they could still hang out together despite being committed to different partners without issue). Last edited by judasmartel; 2013-02-06 at 23:25. |
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2013-02-08, 11:09 | Link #485 | |
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Code Geass could be one of the best examples. The protagonist Lelouch is overpowered in terms of brain whereas the deurotagonist Suzaku is overpowered in terms of strength. Suzaku has lots of chances to kill Lelouch across the series but due to moral he doesn't do it. This results in the writers trolling Suzaku until he he loses it and allies with Lelouch forming an unbeatable duo. Still, I think Rurouni Kenshin's titular character was given legit reasons to avoid killing his enemies and even the author made sure he wanted him to look weak in the Kyoto arc after seven volumes in which nobody defeats Kenshin. |
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2013-02-08, 11:29 | Link #487 |
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Why don't you like the headtilt?
I think it's cool and stylish, and adds some nice drama, flare, and emotion to some scenes. Plus, it's sometimes played well in a creepy way (I'm surprised that Sayaka's very creepy headtilt from PMMM Episode 8 never seems to get into these SHAFT headtilt compilations).
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2013-02-08, 11:52 | Link #489 | |
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I don't hate it at all but it is amusing to see how many times they use the same technique.
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2013-02-08, 13:17 | Link #490 | |
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Add to that that the headtilt freaks me out in a bad way all the time, and yeah, I hate it now. |
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2013-02-08, 14:13 | Link #491 | |
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Yeah, I guess the SHAFT head-tilt is a bit overused.
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2013-02-08, 14:16 | Link #492 | |
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2013-02-08, 23:01 | Link #495 |
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Started watching Muv-Luv. Eagerly awaiting for me to not be watching it anymore.
Why? Because it is the embodiment of cliche. It has a beach episode. IT'S BASICALLY BLUE GENDER MIXED WITH FMP! WHY?! Spoiler for Cliches of Muv-Luv in a list.:
With the exception of the very beginning which I give a lot of props to in terms of having some real originality, this thread is all I could think about while watching this anime. I'm not even HALF of the way through! Edit: Episode 19 here. It's getting worse. My "wtf" supplies are gone. Temperature is low. Interest waning. I may not make it to morning...
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2013-05-03, 09:24 | Link #496 |
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I think about it my worst cliche is the misunderstanding
oh look a boy has accidentally done something perverted (or it was the girl's fault) now time for the beat the hell out of them often with no apology if they later realise it wasn't their fault e.g. persona 4 animation the hotsprings scene |
2013-05-05, 01:09 | Link #497 | |
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Also anything else like this especially when it involves the protagonist getting the short end of the stick. At times this can get notoriously unfunny.
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2013-05-06, 12:32 | Link #499 | ||
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It's great for portraying dismissiveness and disdain, but it doesn't work for much else. Quote:
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2013-05-06, 13:04 | Link #500 |
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I too am getting somewhat tired of the 'guy walks in on girl changing/getting ready for bath/whatever and gets everything, including the kitchen sink thrown at him' cliché.
In fact, I find it actually refreshing when it happens and the girl doesn't get mad, or even claims that she doesn't really care about it, or even mind.
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