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Funkatron · 2013-03-26, 16:34

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Originally Posted by Nanya01

You be quiet about that!

If anything, give the Numbers expanded roles so you CAN care about them!

Nope, that'd make me downright hate them. It's like they saw the success of Nanoha befriending more and more misunderstood villains and were like "lets crank it up to over 9000!" and they failed miserably. Crowding a franchise is an instant turn off for me unless they do it right and/or slowly.

Nanya01 · 2013-03-26, 16:36

Well then, too bad.

It's not like the movies focus on anyone but Fate anyway.

So why not give the Numbers expanded roles?

KuronaFanboy · 2013-03-26, 16:42

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Originally Posted by Funkatron

Nope, that'd make me downright hate them. It's like they saw the success of Nanoha befriending more and more misunderstood villains and were like "lets crank it up to over 9000!" and they failed miserably. Crowding a franchise is an instant turn off for me unless they do it right and/or slowly.

I don't really see what the big deal about the Numbers being misunderstood was. Actually they weren't misunderstood so much as manipulated and misguided. Fate and the Wolkenritter were misunderstood-- they had very good reasons for doing what they did. The Numbers were just being used by Jail. For all his talk about 'family' in the manga I never got the impression he cared about any of them except the first, extremely loyal batch.

Kaijo · 2013-03-26, 16:46

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Originally Posted by Demi.

Thinking back to the epilogue, it makes me think that they're not going to skip very far ahead. I believe Nanoha showing Arisa and Suzuka that she can use magic at the end of A's, is because they don't plan on discarding them in the sequel. And they had to of found out she used magic at some point.

Given that they skipped two years ahead instead of six, yeah, I figured that. That's time enough for Hayate's legs to heal (and apparently give her Rein Zwei much earlier).

And if this new movie takes place on Earth, that Arisa/Suzuka scene was just to make them aware of what was going on. They probably won't have much of a role, other than as potential victims to what is going on. I figure Nanoha would have told them sooner or later, if she does go work for the Bureau, so they know why she disappears for months on end, and is out of communication range.

That scene felt funny, though... in the series, they had Nanoha and Fate there, explaining things around a table while they drank tea. In the movie, Nanoha just shows them RH, and then heads out the door, leaving them there, as if to say, "Oh, I have magic now, and I'm leaving you guys. Seeya!"

bhl88 · 2013-03-26, 16:55

^ somehow that scene is funny.

KuronaFanboy · 2013-03-26, 17:42

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Originally Posted by Kaijo

Given that they skipped two years ahead instead of six, yeah, I figured that. That's time enough for Hayate's legs to heal (and apparently give her Rein Zwei much earlier).

And if this new movie takes place on Earth, that Arisa/Suzuka scene was just to make them aware of what was going on. They probably won't have much of a role, other than as potential victims to what is going on. I figure Nanoha would have told them sooner or later, if she does go work for the Bureau, so they know why she disappears for months on end, and is out of communication range.

That scene felt funny, though... in the series, they had Nanoha and Fate there, explaining things around a table while they drank tea. In the movie, Nanoha just shows them RH, and then heads out the door, leaving them there, as if to say, "Oh, I have magic now, and I'm leaving you guys. Seeya!"

Well, in the series, they also start getting awfully suspicious something is going on when Nanoha's math grades start skyrocketing since magic = math, and I think that was cut out of the movies too. Not to mention Nanoha and Fate being ridiculously good at PE class all of a sudden too.

Demi. · 2013-03-26, 17:45

Was Nanoha ever good at PE class? What was up with the supplement manga where Nanoha was lacking skills in volleyball, or when Fate was helping her stretch, she could barely bend over, lol.

KuronaFanboy · 2013-03-26, 17:47

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Originally Posted by Demi.

Was Nanoha ever good at PE class? What was up with the supplement manga where Nanoha was lacking skills in volleyball, or when Fate was helping her stretch, she could barely bend over, lol.

I thought there was a bunch of chapters dedicated to how they were getting strangely better. Fate especially would accidently use magic when playing at first.

Demi. · 2013-03-26, 17:53

Well, you're right about the mathematics. Although wasn't this stuff only in the manga?

As for the sports...I don't know. They actually retconned Nanohas out of shape-ness in the movie with the stick fighting. Unless they were using magic there.

As for Fate, she's always been athletic. All that training she did with Linith

KuronaFanboy · 2013-03-26, 17:57

Wep then! I totally misremembered.

Isn't that when Fate uses magic to boost the volleyball too?

Demi. · 2013-03-26, 18:03

It is, though I don't see where it says she used magic. I guess it only makes sense considering she jumped like 50 feet, lol. Though that doesn't explain how Suzuka returned it.

Sunder the Gold · 2013-03-26, 18:08

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Originally Posted by KuronaFanboy

In all fairness, teleportation doesn't work in most hotspots because of wards/barriers

You NEVER teleport INTO a hotspot. You teleport just outside of it, so that you're far less likely to find yourself surrounded by enemies.

Teleporting to a point just outside of an AMF-zone would still be many times faster than a helicopter. Once there, it would be a really short flight to reach and engage hostiles.

Kaijo · 2013-03-26, 18:08

Naw, she just leapt high to return a ball, aiming for Suzuka.... who promptly returned it rapidly and with power to knock Fate out, heh. But there was no magic involved, really. Just the knowledge that math and magic circles were pretty much the same thing, and that's why Fate and Nanoha were good at math.

KuronaFanboy · 2013-03-26, 18:11

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Originally Posted by Kaijo

Naw, she just leapt high to return a ball, aiming for Suzuka.... who promptly returned it rapidly and with power to knock Fate out, heh. But there was no magic involved, really. Just the knowledge that math and magic circles were pretty much the same thing, and that's why Fate and Nanoha were good at math.

I have a hard time believing they can jump that high without at least -some- body-enhancing magic, but then again these are little girls who can drop from orbit without passing out. :|a

Though the ball itself probably wasn't boosted since it was returned.

Kaijo · 2013-03-26, 18:19

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Originally Posted by KuronaFanboy

I have a hard time believing they can jump that high without at least -some- body-enhancing magic, but then again these are little girls who can drop from orbit without passing out. :|a

Though the ball itself probably wasn't boosted since it was returned.

Right before she jumped, Fate worked it out in her mind and thought, "Angle, wind speed, and gravity... I can pull it off with a normal jump!"

KuronaFanboy · 2013-03-26, 18:21

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Originally Posted by Kaijo

Right before she jumped, Fate worked it out in her mind and thought, "Angle, wind speed, and gravity... I can pull it off with a normal jump!"

The authors clearly don't know how normal little girl jumps work. D:

Nanya01 · 2013-03-26, 18:24

Fate's a clone with a genetically enhanced body, of course.

Rising Dragon · 2013-03-26, 18:27

That, pretty much. Jumps that are normal for her may not be normal for anyone else.

For all the good it did her against Suzuka.

bhl88 · 2013-03-26, 18:57

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Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

That, pretty much. Jumps that are normal for her may not be normal for anyone else.

For all the good it did her against Suzuka.

Suzuka's not normal....

Nanya01 · 2013-03-26, 18:58

Comes with being a vampire-like person that can one-shot demons.

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Demi. Ass connoisseur Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Florida Age: 37	Well, you're right about the mathematics. Although wasn't this stuff only in the manga? As for the sports...I don't know. They actually retconned Nanohas out of shape-ness in the movie with the stick fighting. Unless they were using magic there. As for Fate, she's always been athletic. All that training she did with Linith __________________

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Demi. Ass connoisseur Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Florida Age: 37	It is, though I don't see where it says she used magic. I guess it only makes sense considering she jumped like 50 feet, lol. Though that doesn't explain how Suzuka returned it. __________________

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KuronaFanboy Inactive Member Join Date: May 2008	Wep then! I totally misremembered. Isn't that when Fate uses magic to boost the volleyball too?

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Kaijo Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Somewhere over the rainbow, in a house dropped on an ugly, old woman.	Naw, she just leapt high to return a ball, aiming for Suzuka.... who promptly returned it rapidly and with power to knock Fate out, heh. But there was no magic involved, really. Just the knowledge that math and magic circles were pretty much the same thing, and that's why Fate and Nanoha were good at math.

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