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monster · 2012-08-29, 15:26

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But that's the same scene.

Then what was the point of your reply?

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Yeah...naahhh, Kira couldn't be, I mean he imagined Fllay instead of Lacus during that one scene!

It doesn't matter who he was imagining. Kira cried at the time because that's how he is when he feels sad.

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Uh...yeah? That's why they were fighting each other in outer space? Would they be fighting each other if they had the same goals?

I was pointing to HOW these 2 were the only ones who decided space tag was the best course of action to settle old scores.

Space tag? They're fighting. That is what you do in a battle.

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So, showing how many friends onscreen is the gauge of how popular Fllay was at school?

It's one way.

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Lacus doesn't have any friends shown onscreen (save perhaps Athrun who was also her fiance, but that's probably stretching it a little too much), so going by your logic, Lacus was unpopular.

Wrong, because Lacus is a known celebrity.

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Also, Miriallia and Tolle beg to differ - they confirmed pretty much Fllay WAS a popular girl at their school.

When?

But anyway, that's besides the point, which is Flay's situation in the Archangel, not in Orb. Also, being popular doesn't mean there's no desire in a sense of belonging.

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Yes, they probably haven't, but they will hear nasty rumors at school about it right?

and given Heliopolis' population, it's NOT that hard to face a Coordinator - or rather, meet a Coordinator. You're making it sound like Coordinators were very rare at Orb. If they were, Orb's military might wouldn't be possible, and wouldn't be known as the country of peace/kingdom of peace/whatever of peace they're making it out to be.

Except they don't even know that Kira is a Coordinator.

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With your other argument, it is implied that they would be doing good deeds to remember dead Coordinators. And yet we have Fllay being scared of Coordinators, and would probably rather die than get friendly with Coordinators, the moment the Lacus incident occurs. Maybe (going by your logic) she can tolerate giving folded paper flowers, but it's weird how basic interaction with them gets her freaked out like that. She's probably interacted with Coordinator classmates, and it's impossible she wouldn't know who they were (unless for some odd reason, the Coordinator heaven Orb instill safety measures to keep Coordinator identities safe and secret to the Naturals living there, which is a big contradiction to the overall image of their kingdom). Now that I also think about it, even Kira's friends were shocked too when they found out he was one. Hmm.

Surprise, surprise, not everybody wishes to advertise everything about themselves.

So back to the point: Folding paper crane as part of a group does not mean anything regarding interacting with living Coordinators.

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IIRC the Archangel moved as to catch Kira before reentry, because the Strike can't survive if it's just going in on its own. Now that you mention the heat, we don't have Strike's seat melted when they landed on the desert. And given the state of the melted seat after the Aegis Strike fight, that was pretty MUCH concentrated heat that could have fried the pilot even before Lowe can save him. It's also funny how the seat is melted (maybe it's because it's just a "small" slice through the hatch anyways) yet the cockpit itself is just pretty much normal.

Different materials have different heat tolerance.

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Yes he is. Technically, he was still EA at that point too, so Lacus pretty much gave the weapon to an enemy. Or, if he's listed as KIA, then maybe he isn't.

He's listed as MIA, but Kira has denounced his allegiance to the EA.

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Still, it doesn't change the fact that now, Kira was a CIVILIAN when Lacus handed him the Freedom. At least on board the Archangel before, it had some reason why he had to pilot the Strike. But now, there simply isn't ANY reason at all why Lacus would give him the Freedom, just lolideals.

Kira's status doesn't matter, Lacus trusted the person. And Kira's ideal happened to match that of Lacus.

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...say what?

so going by this logic, Lacus never really loved him after all, she just commanded Kira to live as much as Lelouch ordered Suzaku to live for him by the Geass. There, Destiny problem (if Lacus really loved Kira and Kira really loved Lacus, and it really turned out she was just using him after all) solved.

Wanting someone to remain alive means it's not love? I fail to see your logic.

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If Lacus was already THERE at the PLANTs, would Dully be in power?

Maybe, didn't you know that Durandal is pro-Lacus? How did you think he got in power in the first place?

GN0010 Nosferatu · 2012-08-29, 23:54

Off topic kinda, but I'm not much of a Lacus fan. Or rather, I'm not a fan of the FULL UNDERSTANDING I'M PURE BEING OF GOODNESS version of Lacus. I liked the airhead ditzy Lacus from the early episodes.

But there was one moment in Destiny where she's trying on sexy cloths for Kira, and she keeps asking how him how she looks, and all he says is "good". To which Lacus replies with "That's what you always say" while making a funny face.

I thought thats pretty funny.

Destined_Fate · 2012-08-30, 00:29

Makes sense, Lacus was always the pure girl compared to wild and sexy Flay. Not like it would have lead to anything since they're waiting for marriage or something... Even if neither says that's the case or that they're planning on marriage.

Even Athrun was planning on getting hitched with Cagalli before those two and they had the ring far longer.

Washu-Chan · 2012-08-30, 09:43

Remember the scene in HD Remaster 26 where you might as well change Nicol's name to Greedo?

I Fail at Life · 2012-08-30, 11:11

Episode 37 needs to come out NOW!. Cause this topic is just

So this argument can ''Cry Me a Riverrr ohh ,Cry Me A Riverrr ohh, Cry me A Riverrr ohh'' Justin Timberlake Voice

Destined_Fate · 2012-08-30, 19:58

Eh, chill out. Flay having fans isn't new, they just weren't as vocal when it mattered all those years ago.

hero147 · 2012-08-30, 23:04

Episode 37 aired and oh wow, in most of the frames the gundams look so much sleeker and much better. Most notably, most of the buster's and the strike's (of course) animation had been revamped with a couple going to the freedom and the justice. Though some frames remain the same, so it does sometimes feel like the animation goes up and down throughout the battles. But I know money isn't unlimited and I do like it over the original.

Obelisk ze Tormentor · 2012-08-30, 23:49

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Originally Posted by hero147

Episode 37 aired and oh wow, in most of the frames the gundams look so much sleeker and much better. Most notably, most of the buster's and the strike's (of course) animation had been revamped with a couple going to the freedom and the justice. Though some frames remain the same, so it does sometimes feel like the animation goes up and down throughout the battles. But I know money isn't unlimited and I do like it over the original.

Good to hear. Can't wait to watch those battle scenes ^^.

monster · 2012-08-31, 00:29

Cagalli sure does know how to ruin a good moment, once in a while.

EDIT: Oh, the different soundtracks were very nice this episode, especially the instrumental when Kira and Athrun faced each other.

Aquaman OS · 2012-08-31, 01:32

They're really going all out. Alot of stuff was redone (and this battle was actually fairly stock footage free in the original since it was Freedom and Justice's first real battle and most of their usual footage hadn't been made yet) including Buster and even the Astray girls got some stuff redone.

Of course they also added the "Freedom/SF barrel rolls and fires railguns" stock footage that actually debuted in Destiny and was used like 20 times. But I guess you can't win them all.

I Fail at Life · 2012-08-31, 02:13

The ''Freedom Barrel Roll'' Was first used in episode 38 of the original not Destiny

Destined_Fate · 2012-08-31, 05:41

Good to hear that things are looking better, the jokes that they're still using stock images but remastered the Flay sex scene were pretty annoying.

I Fail at Life · 2012-08-31, 05:58

Destined Fate. Are you even watching the remaster or just hear to be negative all the time

Destined_Fate · 2012-08-31, 06:06

Of course I'm watching it, SEED has its faults but this was before Kira was tainted by his Destiny antics so it's still worth rewatching since they're going through the effort. Besides, if enough interest is shown in this than SEED Destiny will logically follow through to milk the cash cow and it could use a number of changes.

I Fail at Life · 2012-08-31, 06:58

Im talking about the content of the episodes not Kira,yet you still bring him up

. And regarding Destiny,aint no guarantee its getting a Remaster because its Destiny.No telling what its popularity, interest or reception would still be like in japan when that time rolls around

Destined_Fate · 2012-08-31, 07:12

And I already answered your question, I do watch it. I'm not talking out my ass here if that's what you're implying.

If the SEED remaster does well than there's no reason they wouldn't do a Destiny one, Destiny has quirks but it was still pretty popular and they know it would sell regardless of Shinn getting hated on by some vocal fans who don't really matter considering the majority liked Shinn for the most part. Especially the Shinn x Lunamaria ship which they went rabid for years ago and still care about(Though the wedding between the VA's really helped boost the popularity of it after Destiny was long over).

Destiny also has been getting the spotlight in games like G Gen and SRW so the desire for it, in Japan at least, is still very strong. They even had a GSD game made for the Vita so it's by no means dead over there.

Over here in the West though the desire is far less since it isn't being thrown in our faces anymore while in Japan it's everywhere.

I Fail at Life · 2012-08-31, 08:20

And im just saying if it has no relation to kira don't bring him up,im passed this.

Of course Shin would be popular at some point,but still to this day?

Shin x Lunamaria still relevant

''Now and Later"

Tak · 2012-08-31, 09:08

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Originally Posted by I Fail at Life

Shin x Lunamaria still relevant

Hell, they are married in real life.

- Tak

kaito-kid · 2012-08-31, 10:45

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Of course Shin would be popular at some point,but still to this day?

Shinn did good in polls in the early day's of Destiny. But don't think he ever reached the no.1 position. Kira was No.1 throughout (And after) Destiny for the most part.

Actually, from 2003 till 2008 the no.1 spot was primarily held by three characters.

2002 - 2003 Kira (Seed)
2003 - 2004 Edward (FMA)
2004 - 2006 Kira (Destiny)
2006 - 2008 Lelouch (Code Geass)

* Before Kira made made his debute in Destiny, Athrun held the no.1 spot for a while. However Shinn was in the top 5.

*Between the first season and the second season of Code Geass, 00 toke over, but Lelouch remained the most populair character.

Destined_Fate · 2012-08-31, 11:22

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Originally Posted by I Fail at Life

And im just saying if it has no relation to kira don't bring him up,im passed this.

Of course Shin would be popular at some point,but still to this day?

Shin x Lunamaria still relevant

''Now and Later"

You didn't read, I'm watching SEED because Kira was quirky in it but he wasn't the jerk that he was in Destiny. Most of those jerk moments could easily be washed away from Kira in a Remaster just like Kira is getting a good hand-washing in the SEED Remaster. Might as well go out since no matter what they do he will always be known as Kira "Jesus" Yamato.

Yes he is still popular to this day. Not as popular as Setsuna or Banagher, who are more recent, but still popular nonetheless. The fact that Shinn has been showcased as a main character in recent popular games(Like SRW) has really helped to keep him very relevant in Japan.

Yes they are still relevant, never underestimate the power of the shipping fanbase. The VA Marriage though helped matters, it was like validating the shippers greatest desires.

2012-08-30, 09:43	Link #4224
Washu-Chan Powered by AMD Athrun 64 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Washington, DC	Remember the scene in HD Remaster 26 where you might as well change Nicol's name to Greedo? <p>No iframe support, please <a href="http://youtu.be/fhpmGzNK0aI">watch on YouTube</a>.</p> __________________

2012-08-31, 06:58	Link #4235
I Fail at Life Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012	Im talking about the content of the episodes not Kira,yet you still bring him up. And regarding Destiny,aint no guarantee its getting a Remaster because its Destiny.No telling what its popularity, interest or reception would still be like in japan when that time rolls around

2012-08-29, 23:54	Link #4222
GN0010 Nosferatu Where's the monoeye? Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Hargenteen Age: 35	Off topic kinda, but I'm not much of a Lacus fan. Or rather, I'm not a fan of the FULL UNDERSTANDING I'M PURE BEING OF GOODNESS version of Lacus. I liked the airhead ditzy Lacus from the early episodes. But there was one moment in Destiny where she's trying on sexy cloths for Kira, and she keeps asking how him how she looks, and all he says is "good". To which Lacus replies with "That's what you always say" while making a funny face. I thought thats pretty funny.

2012-08-30, 00:29	Link #4223
Destined_Fate Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: "Sacrifice one to appease the few."	Makes sense, Lacus was always the pure girl compared to wild and sexy Flay. Not like it would have lead to anything since they're waiting for marriage or something... Even if neither says that's the case or that they're planning on marriage. Even Athrun was planning on getting hitched with Cagalli before those two and they had the ring far longer.

2012-08-30, 11:11	Link #4225
I Fail at Life Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012	Episode 37 needs to come out NOW!. Cause this topic is just So this argument can ''Cry Me a Riverrr ohh ,Cry Me A Riverrr ohh, Cry me A Riverrr ohh'' Justin Timberlake Voice

2012-08-30, 19:58	Link #4226
Destined_Fate Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: "Sacrifice one to appease the few."	Eh, chill out. Flay having fans isn't new, they just weren't as vocal when it mattered all those years ago.

2012-08-30, 23:04	Link #4227
hero147 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008	Episode 37 aired and oh wow, in most of the frames the gundams look so much sleeker and much better. Most notably, most of the buster's and the strike's (of course) animation had been revamped with a couple going to the freedom and the justice. Though some frames remain the same, so it does sometimes feel like the animation goes up and down throughout the battles. But I know money isn't unlimited and I do like it over the original.

2012-08-31, 00:29	Link #4229
monster Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	Cagalli sure does know how to ruin a good moment, once in a while. EDIT: Oh, the different soundtracks were very nice this episode, especially the instrumental when Kira and Athrun faced each other.

2012-08-31, 01:32	Link #4230
Aquaman OS Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008	They're really going all out. Alot of stuff was redone (and this battle was actually fairly stock footage free in the original since it was Freedom and Justice's first real battle and most of their usual footage hadn't been made yet) including Buster and even the Astray girls got some stuff redone. Of course they also added the "Freedom/SF barrel rolls and fires railguns" stock footage that actually debuted in Destiny and was used like 20 times. But I guess you can't win them all.

2012-08-31, 02:13	Link #4231
I Fail at Life Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012	The ''Freedom Barrel Roll'' Was first used in episode 38 of the original not Destiny

2012-08-31, 05:41	Link #4232
Destined_Fate Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: "Sacrifice one to appease the few."	Good to hear that things are looking better, the jokes that they're still using stock images but remastered the Flay sex scene were pretty annoying.

2012-08-31, 05:58	Link #4233
I Fail at Life Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012	Destined Fate. Are you even watching the remaster or just hear to be negative all the time

2012-08-31, 06:06	Link #4234
Destined_Fate Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: "Sacrifice one to appease the few."	Of course I'm watching it, SEED has its faults but this was before Kira was tainted by his Destiny antics so it's still worth rewatching since they're going through the effort. Besides, if enough interest is shown in this than SEED Destiny will logically follow through to milk the cash cow and it could use a number of changes.

2012-08-31, 07:12	Link #4236
Destined_Fate Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: "Sacrifice one to appease the few."	And I already answered your question, I do watch it. I'm not talking out my ass here if that's what you're implying. If the SEED remaster does well than there's no reason they wouldn't do a Destiny one, Destiny has quirks but it was still pretty popular and they know it would sell regardless of Shinn getting hated on by some vocal fans who don't really matter considering the majority liked Shinn for the most part. Especially the Shinn x Lunamaria ship which they went rabid for years ago and still care about(Though the wedding between the VA's really helped boost the popularity of it after Destiny was long over). Destiny also has been getting the spotlight in games like G Gen and SRW so the desire for it, in Japan at least, is still very strong. They even had a GSD game made for the Vita so it's by no means dead over there. Over here in the West though the desire is far less since it isn't being thrown in our faces anymore while in Japan it's everywhere.

2012-08-31, 08:20	Link #4237
I Fail at Life Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012	And im just saying if it has no relation to kira don't bring him up,im passed this. Of course Shin would be popular at some point,but still to this day? Shin x Lunamaria still relevant ''Now and Later"