(CR) World Trigger

[jpwong]

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

That's another way of saying he lost 25% of his fights against freaking Osamu. Who we can only hope isn't the weakest B-class by now.

I dunno, Izumi basically alluded to the fact that Osamu would lose to him is a strait up fight, but could probably beat him by using tactics which means that Osamu has the capabilities to go against the "weakest A rank". Osamu's problem if you want to call it that is that he seems to be focusing on points when that's not his forte. Sure he should know how to fight if he's cornered or Yuma gets taken out, but his strength lies in setting the stage for other people to score points.

[Stark700]

Episode 68

A lot of analysis this episode. The snowy field real makes quite a battlefield. Very exciting stuff this week.

The second half of the episode really made a good impression with the core members of both sides fighting. Quite the thrill.

[Anh_Minh]

Wow, I feel sorry for the Osamu in the explanations. Being put on the spot by Chika like that.

[ookamigirl]

Tough stage..
Let the games begin!
Lots of players and strategizing.
Mikumo got hit in an incredible way..
Poor guy.

[mergele]

Imagine if Chika gets her act together while they are in that corridor, 4 kills in a single shot

[thundrakkon]

I'm beginning to think that the action in World Trigger is becoming a little too absurd. In order to really hammer down the futility of Osamu, they had a guy snipe him throw a wall... right... That requires the sniper to know exactly where Osamu is without seeing Osamu, penetrating throw a few walls from really far away, since the sniper was shooting from the other side of the building, and still have enough force to disintegrate Osamu on contact. I call BS on that for story purposes.

As for Jin making the bet, it really is a cheat. His side effect allows him to see the future, so if he says Tamakoma will win, then they will win. Of course, now it squarely lies on Kuga and Chika, who both need to win without their leader giving them directions.

Btw, it is really stupid that Chika can blast away a whole neighborhood but never hit anyone, while that sniper was able to hit Osamu through layers of walls without seeing the target.

[p-kun]

Originally Posted by thundrakkon

I'm beginning to think that the action in World Trigger is becoming a little too absurd. In order to really hammer down the futility of Osamu, they had a guy snipe him throw a wall... right... That requires the sniper to know exactly where Osamu is without seeing Osamu, penetrating throw a few walls from really far away, since the sniper was shooting from the other side of the building, and still have enough force to disintegrate Osamu on contact. I call BS on that for story purposes.

As for Jin making the bet, it really is a cheat. His side effect allows him to see the future, so if he says Tamakoma will win, then they will win. Of course, now it squarely lies on Kuga and Chika, who both need to win without their leader giving them directions.

Btw, it is really stupid that Chika can blast away a whole neighborhood but never hit anyone, while that sniper was able to hit Osamu through layers of walls without seeing the target.

The snipe is not absurd, provided you understand how trion tech works actually.
1. It has been established that unless you don bagworm, other combatants and operators can track you on their personal radar. So yes, everyone and their mothers know exactly Osamu's coordinate, not just Azuma.
2. Azuma has spotters (his 2 attackers) and we already know from episodes ago that visual data can be shared. So yes, every team except Kageura's know Osamu's body position is (crouching).
3. Osamu was a stationary target and he's also kneeling (it takes more time to dodge from kneeling position than from crouching or standing position) - he's a lot easier to snipe than the Ninomiya team members.
4. Trion bodies give visual and motoric enhancement. If you think this one is too crazy for you, then what do you think of Narasaka and Touma sniping Hyerin through his moving fish shields from 1 km away? Those snipes must have been equally crazy so I don't see why this particular snipe is absurd. Plus, even without trion bodies, there are snipers in real life who managed this kind of feat.

IIRC the said difficulty in sniping through glass/wall is filler. So, it's easier to snipe through walls in the manga than in the anime, since in the manga, the bullet trajectory is not affected by phasing through glass/wall. In the manga, the only reason that this snipe is difficult is because Azuma has to use radar+indirect visual.

About Chika, Chika is C-rank in skills. She has not managed to reach qualification to upgrade to B-rank using her own skill without Kinuta's favoritism. Sniper is the hardest position to graduate to B-rank by far. Chika has not even managed to get good enough mark at shooting stationary object (her latest rank was 24 IIRC, while the passing cut off to become B-ranker is 18th for 3 different training sessions in a row), much less moving targets. So yes, her aim is bad compared to properly trained B-ranked snipers even before discounting her fear of shooting people.

Plus, you are severely underestimating the mobility of properly trained B-rank attackers/shooters/gunners (snipers don't get mobility training so most of them have really bad mobility - perhaps as bad as Osamu, who skipped his mobility training for insta promotion).

[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by thundrakkon

I'm beginning to think that the action in World Trigger is becoming a little too absurd. In order to really hammer down the futility of Osamu, they had a guy snipe him throw a wall... right... That requires the sniper to know exactly where Osamu is without seeing Osamu, penetrating throw a few walls from really far away, since the sniper was shooting from the other side of the building, and still have enough force to disintegrate Osamu on contact. I call BS on that for story purposes.

Osamu wasn't wearing a bagworm, which means Azuma could see him on radar. With that, even the fatso could come close, and Azuma is a top sniper and teacher of top snipers.

As for the power, Azuma used an Ibis, and it's not like he had to shoot through Border HQ's trion walls. They were just (simulated) normal walls.

[James Rye]

Godzuma shows again why he's the Sniper Jesus of Border. xD
Man, it hurts as much watching Osamu getting rekt in the anime as it did in the manga. All the training, all the hopes of Osamu scoring some points, all that hype about getting close to the top B ranks - done with a single amazing shot.

Looks like Hyuse will win this bet.

And Osamu gonna take this the hardest next episode given his character.

Nice though how the strongest made a hunt for the weakest. Osamu should have wear his bagworm to avoid being targeted from the start. Here comes the tactical advantage of chosing the map again, Azuma and his students (cause that's what they are xD) even wear white uniforms instead of their usual blue ones and had wormbags on from the start. And the snow setting made Ninomiya hesitate because he had no clue why Azuma would chose such a setting.
And then we find out why they chose snow, so that the opponents will enter the houses where the two attackers of Azuma squad are in an advantage compare to the attacker-shooter combos of the other teams.

Poor Zoe btw. He gets Ninomiya away for Kage to make some points, Kage doesn't give a shit and just wants to have fun. xD

[Cloudedmind]

Originally Posted by thundrakkon

I'm beginning to think that the action in World Trigger is becoming a little too absurd. In order to really hammer down the futility of Osamu, they had a guy snipe him throw a wall... right... That requires the sniper to know exactly where Osamu is without seeing Osamu, penetrating throw a few walls from really far away, since the sniper was shooting from the other side of the building, and still have enough force to disintegrate Osamu on contact. I call BS on that for story purposes.

As for Jin making the bet, it really is a cheat. His side effect allows him to see the future, so if he says Tamakoma will win, then they will win. Of course, now it squarely lies on Kuga and Chika, who both need to win without their leader giving them directions.

Btw, it is really stupid that Chika can blast away a whole neighborhood but never hit anyone, while that sniper was able to hit Osamu through layers of walls without seeing the target.

Jin's side effect isn't perfect though. I believe as he himself explained it earlier in the show what he sees are branches of the future, and what's the most likely future out come based on how things are currently going. Basically there's some leeway in what can happen depending on how people act, and how Jin can get people to act if he's able to exert any kind of "control" over them.

[aakun4]

Well seems like the mystery of why they started adapting manga content again has an explication now. The TV station airing the show will start an sports program in the slot where world trigger currently airs on spring, so this should be the last cour of the show unless they move it to some other slot, which seems unlikely.

[Stark700]

Episode 69:

Damn, that was..intense! Pretty good episode with tons of action. I just wish the recaps weren't 4 minutes long.

I like how the battle royal gave every team some spotlight including their captains, Chika, Yuma, etc.
The snowy battle ground also makes the fighting more rough so that's something to take notice of. We also got some info about the different type of sniper rifles too. Skilled users are capable of using different version of them to their advantage.

That cliffhanger looks exciting with Yuma as well.
Can't wait for next week! This is what the ranked wars is all about.

[thundrakkon]

Although the action was nice this episode, the story left a lot to be desired. Mikumo was pretty much worthless in the episode, again. Chika's blast really should have taken out all 4 of those guys, but, of course... story reasons. I still think last episode's sniper blast on Mikumo was BS (even if some viewers explained why it was not, which I will respectfully disagree with since there are too many things wrong with the whole sequence of events), and in some degree, so did the announcers by saying how rare it is to blast through walls and how concerned the sniper was with getting Mikumo out. I can begin to see where this story will end as the anime end, and it seems like another horrible ending, where I will probably not have any anticipation on if they will have another season.

Btw, considering that Chika is a trion monster, a strategy they can use is to have her covered continuously in a force field, since her insane amount of trion should be more than enough to protect her. Then she can pretty much tank her way through.

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This would only make sense if Jin is the one manipulating the situation. If he does not do anything, then there really should only be one path to the future, unless another person who can see the future interferes. Jin is not doing anything, so the future should really only go down one path.

[jpwong]

Originally Posted by thundrakkon

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This would only make sense if Jin is the one manipulating the situation. If he does not do anything, then there really should only be one path to the future, unless another person who can see the future interferes. Jin is not doing anything, so the future should really only go down one path.

I dunno, it seems like he can perceive the future and can somehow put a percentage chance on how likely it is each outcome will happen from where they are now. His top outcome without meddling is simply going to be the outcome with the highest probability of occurring. So future A might have a 90% chance of happening, but that also means that there's a 10% chance that future won't happen.

[p-kun]

Good ep. LOL at the use of boss battle song for mere rank battles.

There's a mistake in the anime. When Ninomiya blocked Azuma's ibis, he used 2 concentrated shields in the manga, not 1. 1 layer of concentrated shield is not enough to stop ibis piercing power. It took 2 layers of concentrated shields from someone with massive trion like Ninomiya to stop ibis.

[ookamigirl]

So Mikumo is out..
That was a stupid way to go.
Chika attempted something brave, but it kinda backfired.
Looks like this bunch is too tough for our our trio (now duo).
Was surprised that Kagekura squad helped her out a bit.
Now Kuga is the only one left..

[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by thundrakkon

Although the action was nice this episode, the story left a lot to be desired. Mikumo was pretty much worthless in the episode, again. Chika's blast really should have taken out all 4 of those guys, but, of course... story reasons. I still think last episode's sniper blast on Mikumo was BS (even if some viewers explained why it was not, which I will respectfully disagree with since there are too many things wrong with the whole sequence of events), and in some degree, so did the announcers by saying how rare it is to blast through walls and how concerned the sniper was with getting Mikumo out.

They acknowledged it was a tricky shot, but they weren't that surprised, so they didn't consider it an impossible one either.

[thundrakkon]

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The way they said it can be interpreted as this, from an author's point of view: "This hasn't happened before in the series, even during the major war that just occurred where it really should have happened, but for this one event, we need to do it for story purposes, since you will not see this happen again ever."

[James Rye]

I think Chika just had the wrong angle. Azuma shot in a way where Osamu had little time to dodge if he had noticed the breaking wall whereas Inukai and co saw the big ball of death ray coming at them from the end of a whole corridor. If it had come from the side it might have been harder to avoid. Still Chika alone attempting to shoot at somebody is a good step in the right direction. Loved how her normal shield is already so thick that Inukai cannot penetrate it with his bullets at all. xD

Yuuma got handled really well though, both the Tsuji as well as the Okudera/Kousomething duo and ofc Kageru were all on a level that Yuuma couldn't own them as he did with fighters in the lower middle B battles.

Even despite the 4 mintue review the episode was still pretty fast and well paced/animated. Nice battles going on everywhere. Zoe was such a bro, shooting his meteor bullets well knowing he had no chance to escape Ninomiya's greed now. However his shots were the key to suddenly have three of the five melee fighters drop out. Also Azuma is really Godzuma! Dude shoot down three meteor bullets midair, damn, what an Ace sniper! No wonder he lead the former A-1 team. We got the number 1 shooter, a guy even Murakami the 4th strongest fighter cannot beat in a ten matches battle and then Azuma who's like a super sniper but not on the rankings due him being a sniper teacher. That battle totally showed the limits Tamakoma 2 can reach in this Rank war. No way they are able to compete with the B-1 and B-2 teams with their current level. They would have problems with the normal higher ranked B team already as shown with Azuma and his students. Either Osamu/Chika get a whole lot better in a week or Osamu needs another Ace in his team to carry both him and Chika all the way to the A ranks.

[Pen3]

Even though there is that usual narration/review it still went pretty fast. One Piece, Naruto, or Bleach could easily expand that episode into 3.