Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai - Light Novel Discussion

[frivolity]

Originally Posted by Wilfriback

If you mean commercial issues, actually there is large diifference between Sena(top-tier) and the other girls, seriously, finding Yozora(above average), Maria, Yukimura or Rika fanarts is some kind of challenge.

No, not commercial issues in terms of popularity and sales. I was referring more towards the potential dragging out of the story as noted in this post, which sometimes causes some characters to be left behind because all their cards have been played.

[mangamuscle]

Originally Posted by Sumeragi

... half of the time Yozora's behavior is incomprehensible to me from the information we currently have. I think we might be seeing some major hidden issues from the time between Taka moving away and the reunion being revealed in the future. Those issues will probably be major, which makes me uneasy to say the least.

If Yozora was molded after a real human being, I would say she was a victim of attempted rape (by a member of her own family most likely).

[mironicus]

I guess Sena's confession could lead to a new development where all the other girls also get the confidence to confess to him. Just remember - story-wise Sena is always the first one in doing things, and the others follows her then. For the author this is also a good way to lengthen the story.

[Johnny]

Originally Posted by mironicus

I guess Sena's confession could lead to a new development where all the other girls also get the confidence to confess to him. Just remember - story-wise Sena is always the first one in doing things, and the others follows her then. For the author this is also a good way to lengthen the story.

Once again you assume she'll confess. There's nothing concrete that says otherwise expect you hope she confesses...

Not sure what firsts you're referring to, but she normally just sits and plays gal games until someone else suggest something, i.e usually Kodaka and she decides to join in. Also pretty sure it was Yozora who first started the club...

The post above suggesting that Yozora acts the way she does is because she's been raped or tried to be raped. Not sure where that came from, but she acts like a normal insecure teenage girl with a sharp tongue who has trouble making friends, or thinks she would have trouble making friends...

[mironicus]

Once again you assume she'll confess.

Well... read! Wikipedia was the first page that was updated about that fact. And also the reviewers on Amazon.jp spoils that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boku_wa...chi_ga_Sukunai

but she acts like a normal insecure teenage girl

You get this impression mainly if you just watch the anime.

[Johnny]

Sorry, I don't blindly put my trust in what Wikipedia says. And once again use spoiler tags for spoilerific info...

[Sumeragi]

Originally Posted by mangamuscle

If Yozora was molded after a real human being, I would say she was a victim of attempted rape (by a member of her own family most likely).

No, that's a bit too drastic. I'm more for divorce or a relative taking advantage of her parents. If not a family problem, then some ijime or joke asking outs.

Originally Posted by Johnny

Sorry, I don't blindly put my trust in what Wikipedia says. And once again use spoiler tags for spoilerific info...

Given that this is the novel thread..... Not sure if anything before Volume 8 can be considered to be in the realm of a spoiler. You came here at your own risk.

[sky black swordman]

@mironicus First thank you for this bro.
http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...&postcount=957


And second @mangamuscle I would not go that far , but like I think her problems may have a litttle to do with her parents.
Has there ever been much mentioned about her parents? And could this be also connected with her problems?

[mironicus]

@sky black swordman
No other girl than Sena has a family in this story.

Seanver.com will start to summarize the latest novel soon, I wrote a mail to him.

[Johnny]

Originally Posted by Sumeragi

No, that's a bit too drastic. I'm more for divorce or a relative taking advantage of her parents. If not a family problem, then some ijime or joke asking outs.


Given that this is the novel thread..... Not sure if anything before Volume 8 can be considered to be in the realm of a spoiler. You came here at your own risk.

Oh so anything concerning volume 8 isn't a spoiler? Sorry, my mistake could've sworn it hasn't been translated yet...

[mironicus]

@Johnny

I mentioned the Wikipedia link with spoiler tags already 4 sites ago and we were discussing about it since 5 days...
http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...&postcount=900

[Johnny]

Why would I got to a link where I'll be spoiled when I don't want to be spoiled so I could care less about a link being in spoiler tags, but not the information that pertains to volume 8 which you seem to quote quite fervently without tags. Hence my confusion with the Sena bit. NM, I'll avoid this thread like I did the previous before being dissected High School DxD thread until the translations get caught up...

[mironicus]

Isn't it fun to speculate about things we don't really know about? Only some puzzles that lead to a lively discussion where you start to hardly think about the characters and their intentions.

[potchip]

Originally Posted by mironicus

Well... read! Wikipedia was the first page that was updated about that fact. And also the reviewers on Amazon.jp spoils that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boku_wa...chi_ga_Sukunai



You get this impression mainly if you just watch the anime.

Yep, just like how the Wikipedia Yozora character description was obviously written by a neutral person and the fact that it's on Wikipedia must mean...it's fact! </sarcasm>

This very much reminds me of oreimo - the Kuroneko fans also had an unhealthy obsession with bashing Kirino to further 'who knows what'. And quoted, the throwaway line in the 7th(?) LN about 'girlfriend' status as some kind of victory dance. Sadly none of those fags actually READ the novel and gathered from 2nd hand or 3rd hand sources, hence not realizing it was a cheap cliffhanger. As it happened, just some predictable drama/circular plot in the next volume and back to the status quo.

Who's willing to bet the 'confession' is in the last chapter of the novel?

[mironicus]

I don't think the Wikipedia article about Haganai is really biased. Every user can change those articles. And the description of Sena in the article is also not favoring her: "Kodaka concludes that she is the weirdest member of the club, as she is able to warrant weird and disgusted looks not only from Yozora and Kobato, but also from Yukimura and Rika.".

Who's willing to bet the 'confession' is in the last chapter of the novel?

I suppose it is because that seems to be a good climax for the next volume like the Rika ending in Vol. 7 (and still the status quo will remain). Well I can't read it - but I have Vol. 8 right before my eyes.

What's about the cousin thing? One user here claimed it but as of yet I did not found a confirmation. The confession was being confirmed by some reviewers from Amazon.jp.

[potchip]

As for a more balanced (and factual with anecdotes) view on characters, just go read the Japanese Wiki. I care not how you translate it. The very presence of potential spoilers and biased 'contribution' is a reflection of how rabid the English fandom/poorly regulated those pages are right now.

[mironicus]

Major Spoiler of the end of Vol 8 (don't read it if you don't want to be spoiled)

Spoiler:

The last sentence of Vol. 8 is, that Kodaka wants to reply to the confession of Sena Kashiwazaki.

まずは手始めに、 柏崎星奈に先日の告白の返事をしに行こうか。

In Google Translate: "To start with, I should go to confession the other day to answer first Hoshina Kashiwazaki."

Hoshina means of course Sena. Just right before he became best friends with Rika.

[sky black swordman]

Originally Posted by mironicus

Major Spoiler of the end of Vol 8 (don't read it if you don't want to be spoiled)

Spoiler:

The last sentence of Vol. 8 is, that Kodaka wants to reply to the confession of Sena Kashiwazaki.

まずは手始めに、 柏崎星奈に先日の告白の返事をしに行こうか。

In Google Translate: "To start with, I should go to confession the other day to answer first Hoshina Kashiwazaki."

Hoshina means of course Sena. Just right before he became best friends with Rika.

Ok. So how should I interpreted this?

[Miraluka]

Originally Posted by frivolity

No, not commercial issues in terms of popularity and sales. I was referring more towards the potential dragging out of the story as noted in this post, which sometimes causes some characters to be left behind because all their cards have been played.

Isn't the same, I100% is a manga while Haganai is a light novel and the author is a troll if you take as reference his previous works one of them about a club.

Originally Posted by potchip

Who's willing to bet the 'confession' is in the last chapter of the novel?

Too late for that. Someone else posted the same pages back.

[mironicus]

Originally Posted by sky black swordman

Ok. So how should I interpreted this?

Spoiler:

This means, he will start to date her in Vol. 9.

Kodaka is very happy about the confession - it's like some miracle happened to him. Now his unlucky life will end and he finally feels like a normal highschool student and romance awaits him. This is what he thinks about his situation (last two sides of Vol. 8).

However this does not indicate automatically that he really loves her, but the sensation of going out with a girl that confessed to him is really exciting him, it seems.

There was also a hint in the introduction of Vol. 8 that this unlucky comedy is about to end soon. Well of course, if Kodaka gets a girlfriend the next volume will now concentrate on romance.