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Kyero Fox · 2011-12-15, 21:39

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Originally Posted by DingoEnderZOE2

Sheesh has people forgotten that Ashley's Racism can be cured by good old fashion persuasive love and sound arguments if you romance her?

I killed Kaiden because he just bored me compared to Ashley. Plus as a dude you gotta save the chicks right?

He's only boring because you can't romance him I think (as a guy lol)

and yea, all this Ash hate when they prob didn't give her a chance in a play through.

Nightengale · 2011-12-15, 22:05

I left Ashley to die, but I saw it as the most practical choice at the point of time.

The explosive was a more important objective at that point of time, plus Kaiden was the more senior and higher ranked officer.

Besides, it seemed to make for a more compelling story especially if put through a fake context that Shepard chose duty over love. ( not really, but it does give some impression of that if one chose Tali in ME2 )

Further points for Sole Survivor Shepard.

Keroko · 2011-12-16, 02:27

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Originally Posted by Kyero Fox

and yea, all this Ash hate when they prob didn't give her a chance in a play through.

Nope. I practice the "treat others as they treat you" way of life. Ashley wants to be a bigot? Sure, I'll treat her like that.

That, and I'm never one for romance in Bioware games.

Vallen Chaos Valiant · 2011-12-16, 03:40

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Originally Posted by Kyero Fox

He's only boring because you can't romance him I think (as a guy lol)

and yea, all this Ash hate when they prob didn't give her a chance in a play through.

First impression matters. I metaphorically backed away slowly from her after having her in my party for five minutes. Her idol chit-chat single-handedly convinced me not to romance her and much rather start with Tali with no baggage. Seriously, I originally did want to romance her first, but as soon as I get to know her better there was no way she is going near me.

Had the choice been there to fire her from my crew rather than kill her, I would have done that. Indeed, I am actually annoyed that Shepard hold such high regard for her whenever her death was mentioned. I would have liked the option to say "yeah, she died because she was a bad person and I can do without her, and I am not sorry."

Darkbeat · 2011-12-16, 04:38

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Originally Posted by Vallen Chaos Valiant

First impression matters. I metaphorically backed away slowly from her after having her in my party for five minutes. Her idol chit-chat single-handedly convinced me not to romance her and much rather start with Tali with no baggage. Seriously, I originally did want to romance her first, but as soon as I get to know her better there was no way she is going near me.

Sounds like you didn't get to know her at all.

1. She actually denounces racism at several points in the story, even if you don't change her opinions via dialogue.

2. People refer to her as bigoted, but she's just an alliance marine. Half your ship complains about having to rely on aliens at the start of ME1, nobody more than Pressley, but they eventually come around by the end.

3. Her distrust of aliens stems from the fact her only experience with them was the tragic story of her grandfather during the the First Contact War (between the humans and turians).

4. In ME2 she throws a hissy-fit because you have joined ultra-racist Cerberus. She understands why you did, but admits she could never believe what Cerberus believe (especially after ME1).

Not that it matters much anyway. Bioware pulled data to show that somewere around 90% of (presumably Steam/XBL) ME1 players killed off personality-deficient Kaidan instead. Interestingly around the same amount of people played as Soldier, we are the 10%!

Skane · 2011-12-16, 05:21

Kaidan only died in my playthrough because Ashley was with the bomb. Had the roles been reversed, Ashley would have bitten the dust. The decision I made was based on duty, rather than personality.

That said, I never really got to know Ashley in ME1, because I found Garrus and Tali much more interesting, and later on, Wrex. I mainly rotated between the three of them, and left the rest of the squad to chill their heels in the Normandy.

I can't recall the exact details, but I believe there was a line of conversation that guided you to let Kaidan take point, while Ashley handled the bomb. That alone would help explain why Kaidan kept getting the short end of the stick.

Cheers.

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Key Board · 2012-01-04, 16:44

bah.. pay to win

I have question, though

Does ME3 PC require Origin?

I'm really not comfortable installing it on my PC, when I already have Steam

Vallen Chaos Valiant · 2012-01-04, 18:25

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Originally Posted by Key Board

bah.. pay to win

I have question, though

Does ME3 PC require Origin?

I'm really not comfortable installing it on my PC, when I already have Steam

I bought ME2's DLCs only when they have actual missions in them. To buy weapon and armour packs with cash just seem so... strange. I mean, paying money to make my game easier? I could just lower the game difficulty instead.

And I think you still need Origin. Especially if you want DLCs.

Key Board · 2012-01-04, 21:42

It makes tempted to buy the console version of ME3

Except that I played the prequels on the PC

any advice?

Alchemist007 · 2012-01-04, 22:10

If it's going to be Origin mandatory, I won't be buying ME3.

GN0010 Nosferatu · 2012-01-05, 00:59

I am going to make it my mission to get all N7 Gear. I will have the perfect N7 get up.

Xion Valkyrie · 2012-01-05, 01:49

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Originally Posted by Alchemist007

If it's going to be Origin mandatory, I won't be buying ME3.

Same here. I'll just uh, have to 'sample' it via other means =P

LoweGear · 2012-01-05, 03:51

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Originally Posted by Key Board

bah.. pay to win

I wouldn't call it "Pay to Win" if the equipment in question doesn't offer any significant game-breaking advantages. Most of the time, the ME weapon and armor DLC's are left unused in favor of the traditional weapons and armor. They're there for extra choice, not to become the ONLY choice.

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I have question, though

Does ME3 PC require Origin?

I'm really not comfortable installing it on my PC, when I already have Steam

From all the previews so far, yes ME3 requires Origin.

Darkbeat · 2012-01-05, 04:50

Maybe I've missed something, but what's the difficulty of having both Origin and Steam on your PC...? Brand loyalty?

Tokkan · 2012-01-05, 05:00

I don't like Origin, but even I can see the stupidity in refusing to buy the game if it requires it. Origin doesn't even need to be an active program when running games unlike Steam and *shudder* GFWL. Having it will have no footprint on your RAM when playing the game, it will just be there on your hard drive. Games that require Origin only do so because they use Origin to download patches.

Larthak · 2012-01-05, 05:05

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Originally Posted by Darkbeat

Maybe I've missed something, but what's the difficulty of having both Origin and Steam on your PC...? Brand loyalty?

At least Steam has a lot of USEFUL stuff built in to justify itself (in-game browser, chat, steam groups). Origin is nothing more than an extra step before playing the game (slow as hell too). I sadly need both. I hate Origin with a damn passion.

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Originally Posted by Tokkan

Origin doesn't even need to be an active program when running games unlike Steam and *shudder* GFWL. Having it will have no footprint on your RAM when playing the game, it will just be there on your hard drive. Games that require Origin only do so because they use Origin to download patches.

Oh? Why can't I play Battlefield 3 without it running then?

Tokkan · 2012-01-05, 05:09

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Originally Posted by Larthak

Oh? Why can't I play Battlefield 3 without it running then?

Oh? They've changed the way it's implemented from the way it was with The Sims 3? Sorry, don't have BF3.

Darkbeat · 2012-01-05, 05:12

It's not as good as Steam, granted, but people are talking as if it's so inconvenient they'd either not play Mass Effect 3 or pirate the game instead.

EDIT: For people who don't use the benefits Steam has (chat etc), then it's equally annoying that you're forced to install/maintain/use it just to play The Orange Box or other Valve productions. So really, it's no better than Origin in that regard.

Larthak · 2012-01-05, 06:07

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Originally Posted by Darkbeat

It's not as good as Steam, granted, but people are talking as if it's so inconvenient they'd either not play Mass Effect 3 or pirate the game instead.

That is silly, yeah. But people say that all the time and still end up buying said product.

2011-12-15, 22:05	Link #1202
Nightengale ~Night of Gales~ Author Join Date: Dec 2005	I left Ashley to die, but I saw it as the most practical choice at the point of time. The explosive was a more important objective at that point of time, plus Kaiden was the more senior and higher ranked officer. Besides, it seemed to make for a more compelling story especially if put through a fake context that Shepard chose duty over love. ( not really, but it does give some impression of that if one chose Tali in ME2 ) Further points for Sole Survivor Shepard. __________________ *Night~and~Gale: ~ The Final Mythology of the Man who Defied Destiny.* The sleeping lion shall awaken beyond the depths of time, crossing ten billion lights, come to Terra.

2011-12-16, 05:21	Link #1206
Skane Anime Snark Join Date: May 2006 Location: Singapore Age: 41	Kaidan only died in my playthrough because Ashley was with the bomb. Had the roles been reversed, Ashley would have bitten the dust. The decision I made was based on duty, rather than personality. That said, I never really got to know Ashley in ME1, because I found Garrus and Tali much more interesting, and later on, Wrex. I mainly rotated between the three of them, and left the rest of the squad to chill their heels in the Normandy. I can't recall the exact details, but I believe there was a line of conversation that guided you to let Kaidan take point, while Ashley handled the bomb. That alone would help explain why Kaidan kept getting the short end of the stick. Cheers. __________________ Hearthstone Battletag: Skane#1425 [Can't GIF This], [Jail's House of Rock], [Kanon In The Snow], [She Ain't Dead Yet... She's In Quantum], [She Stabs] Founder of "The Cult of Psycho-Moe", Member of "ARIA the Social Group" & the "Belkan Saint Church".

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Key Board Carbon Join Date: Nov 2003	bah.. pay to win I have question, though Does ME3 PC require Origin? I'm really not comfortable installing it on my PC, when I already have Steam __________________ "Legitimacy is based on three things. First of all, the people who are asked to obey authority have to feel like they have a voice—that if they speak up, they will be heard. Second, the law has to be predictable. There has to be a reasonable expectation that the rules tomorrow are going to be roughly the same as the rules today. And third, the authority has to be fair. It can’t treat one group differently from another.” Malcolm Gladwell

2012-01-04, 21:42	Link #1210
Key Board Carbon Join Date: Nov 2003	It makes tempted to buy the console version of ME3 Except that I played the prequels on the PC any advice? __________________ "Legitimacy is based on three things. First of all, the people who are asked to obey authority have to feel like they have a voice—that if they speak up, they will be heard. Second, the law has to be predictable. There has to be a reasonable expectation that the rules tomorrow are going to be roughly the same as the rules today. And third, the authority has to be fair. It can’t treat one group differently from another.” Malcolm Gladwell

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Alchemist007 Senior Member Author Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: USA	If it's going to be Origin mandatory, I won't be buying ME3. __________________ Fanfics Art MyAnimeList

2012-01-05, 00:59	Link #1212
GN0010 Nosferatu Where's the monoeye? Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Hargenteen Age: 35	I am going to make it my mission to get all N7 Gear. I will have the perfect N7 get up.

2012-01-05, 04:50	Link #1215
Darkbeat 'אין ייאוש בעולם כלל Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: UK Age: 39	Maybe I've missed something, but what's the difficulty of having both Origin and Steam on your PC...? Brand loyalty?

2012-01-05, 05:00	Link #1216
Tokkan Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Australia Age: 35	I don't like Origin, but even I can see the stupidity in refusing to buy the game if it requires it. Origin doesn't even need to be an active program when running games unlike Steam and shudder GFWL. Having it will have no footprint on your RAM when playing the game, it will just be there on your hard drive. Games that require Origin only do so because they use Origin to download patches. Last edited by Tokkan; 2012-01-05 at 05:03. Reason: Was a little too harsh.

2012-01-05, 05:12	Link #1219
Darkbeat 'אין ייאוש בעולם כלל Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: UK Age: 39	It's not as good as Steam, granted, but people are talking as if it's so inconvenient they'd either not play Mass Effect 3 or pirate the game instead. EDIT: For people who don't use the benefits Steam has (chat etc), then it's equally annoying that you're forced to install/maintain/use it just to play The Orange Box or other Valve productions. So really, it's no better than Origin in that regard.