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DarkLordOfkichiku · 2008-07-04, 11:48

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Originally Posted by Aquaman OS

Gino's so weird and random I could see him helping Lelouch in the end just because he feels like it.

Heh, perhaps

. And what a shock this would be for Suzaku; his friends in the KoR betraying him and Britannia for the OotBK!

v1nx · 2008-07-04, 11:54

HQ OP "World's End" http://ru.youtube.com/watch?v=g3a7uQT3W1A

geewhiz · 2008-07-04, 12:01

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Originally Posted by Aquaman OS

Gino's so weird and random I could see him helping Lelouch in the end just because he feels like it.

Nah. Gino's loyal to the emperor. Certainly he's laid back, but he's not a live/let live kinda guy. If Anya switches (and I'm gonna doubt it until it happens, for which I'm actually rooting), it'll likely be an upcoming Gino v. Anya battle (Trisan v. Mordred). Now that I'd wanna see!

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Originally Posted by demon_god04

I bet Diethard would love the news that Zero is a forsaken Britannian prince back to destroy the country that rejected him. He'd probably die of a joygasm of epic magnitude for such a great twist in his story before giving away who Zero is to the others.

The innermost circle of the Black Knights is already aware Zero's Brittannian. Whether they (excepting Kallen) know he's vengeful for a specific reason's anybody's guess.

As per matchups, here's how I see some characters' skill level:
Kallen=KoO
Todou=Gino
Xingke=Suzaku
Holy Swords=Anya

Dream_Traveller · 2008-07-04, 12:03

In the case of Anya...note that she hasn't had the chance to show her true skill because of interruptions (Kallen and C.C.). I think Turn 16 will be good for her...

geewhiz · 2008-07-04, 12:07

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Originally Posted by Dream_Traveller

In the case of Anya...note that she hasn't had the chance to show her true skill because of interruptions (Kallen and C.C.). I think Turn 16 will be good for her...

"True skill"? Hah! All her machine's got is a fat ass, world-class shields and a few big guns. She's had at least two battles in which to demonstrate her "skills" which pale in comparison to the likes of Gino, Suzaku and Kallen.

Stretch5920 · 2008-07-04, 12:07

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Originally Posted by geewhiz

As per matchups, here's how I see some characters' skill level:
Kallen=KoO

I love Kallen, but as good as the Knight of One? no way.

geewhiz · 2008-07-04, 12:09

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Originally Posted by Stretch5920

I love Kallen, but as good as the Knight of One? no way.

Believe it.

demon_god04 · 2008-07-04, 12:10

If anything it would be more like Xingke and the Knight of One, Toudou and Suzaku and Kallen and Gino.

incorrupts · 2008-07-04, 12:14

It's not exactly exceptional skills those that KOR have, sure they got abilities but give me an awesome Knightmare with all the upgrades in the world and i'll kick Hercules's ass as well.

Seazn · 2008-07-04, 12:19

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Originally Posted by geewhiz

Believe it.

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Originally Posted by demon_god04

If anything it would be more like Xingke and the Knight of One, Toudou and Suzaku and Kallen and Gino.

Agreed.

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Originally Posted by skyless

It's not exactly exceptional skills those that KOR have, sure they got abilities but give me an awesome Knightmare with all the upgrades in the world and i'll kick Hercules's ass as well.

The higher the level of the Knightmare Frame, the more skill it requires to pilot.

Ypocaramel · 2008-07-04, 12:19

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Originally Posted by Stretch5920

I love Kallen, but as good as the Knight of One? no way.

KOR1's role is as political as it is military. At this point we don't even know how knights advance in ranks - is it purely Charles's decision, or is it based on fighting skill or court politics ... ?

geewhiz · 2008-07-04, 12:20

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Originally Posted by demon_god04

If anything it would be more like Xingke and the Knight of One, Toudou and Suzaku and Kallen and Gino.

Except that Both Gino and Todou were a match for Xingke. Xingke's skill is exceptional, but mostly in the short run when complemented by strategery. In terms of a straight prolonged rumble, he's got quite a few superiors. Not to mention his acquisition (the Shenhu) is darn near worthless without a good pilot and a long duration.

incorrupts · 2008-07-04, 12:22

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Originally Posted by Seazn

The higher level the of the Knightmare Frame, the more skill it requires to pilot.

Sure but the higher lever, the higher the ass kicking. And that is exactly the reason i admire Kallen's abilities and reflexes, with the old Guren she was like
b ++ vs a {as KOR a} and yet she still managed to defend herself.

Dream_Traveller · 2008-07-04, 12:23

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Originally Posted by geewhiz

"True skill"? Hah! All her machine's got is a fat ass, world-class shields and a few big guns. She's had at least two battles in which to demonstrate her "skills" which pale in comparison to the likes of Gino, Suzaku and Kallen.

See outside the Liliputian picture to which you confine your view. She's a Rounds pilot. And, as said, interruptions. Had Kallen or C.C. not interfered, she would have done a whole lot more.

JMvS · 2008-07-04, 12:25

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Originally Posted by skyless

Sure but the higher lever, the higher the ass kicking. And that is exactly the reason i admire Kallen's abilities and reflexes, with the old Guren she was like
b ++ vs a {as KOR a} and yet she still managed to defend herself.

How true, back in season 1, she was fighting well even with a crippled old Glasgow.

gabbytay · 2008-07-04, 12:26

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Originally Posted by Seazn

The higher level the of the Knightmare Frame, the more skill it requires to pilot.

No you dont you just need a keyboard

geewhiz · 2008-07-04, 12:28

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Originally Posted by Dream_Traveller

See outside the Liliputian picture to which you confine your view.

That's just plain evil.

Not exactly ad hominem, yet nevertheless unjustified.

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Originally Posted by Dream_Traveller

She's a Rounds pilot.

QED! Ergo...?

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Originally Posted by Dream_Traveller

And, as said, interruptions. Had Kallen or C.C. not interfered, she would have done a whole lot more.

"Interfered"? Excuse me, but double-teaming and winning a confrontation is not an "interference."

Seazn · 2008-07-04, 12:38

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Originally Posted by skyless

Sure but the higher lever, the higher the ass kicking. And that is exactly the reason i admire Kallen's abilities and reflexes, with the old Guren she was like
b ++ vs a {as KOR a} and yet she still managed to defend herself.

All I can remember about the Guren MK-II was the supreme Radiation Surge that could kill everything at close range.
Her dodging abilities and speed were great, but only because the Guren has supreme speed

See what I'm getting at? With a regular Burai, she wouldn't be able to dodge like that.

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Originally Posted by Dream_Traveller

See outside the Liliputian picture to which you confine your view. She's a Rounds pilot. And, as said, interruptions. Had Kallen or C.C. not interfered, she would have done a whole lot more.

I disagree. By the looks of it, the Modred is just a spam and camp KFM. It hardly moves, has a supreme shield, shoots that Stark Hadron Cannon from long-range (which has an auto lock on ability) and that spamming hadron-like thing that comes out from every corner of its frame at close-range.

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Originally Posted by JMvS

How true, back in season 1, she was fighting well even with a crippled old Glasgow.

Really? I only saw her beating OTHER low class KMFs. None of them were above the Glasgow's level not to mention she was following Lelouch's commands for the majority of the time.

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Originally Posted by gabbytay

No you dont you just need a keyboard

But then you'd need supreme typing skill/speed like Lelouch

Dream_Traveller · 2008-07-04, 12:45

Alright, it was unjustified, but it's just my opinion that she has more skill than she's currently shown. Apologies for my phrasing, sorry, and I know I could have put it differently, but it's just my personal view.

incorrupts · 2008-07-04, 12:47

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Originally Posted by Seazn

All I can remember about the Guren MK-II was the supreme Radiation Surge that could kill everything at close range.
Her dodging abilities and speed were great, but only because the Guren has supreme speed

See what I'm getting at? With a regular Burai, she wouldn't be able to dodge like that.

Give Suzaku and Anya a regular one and we'll see then. "^^
I'm not trying to disagree here, i also believe that KOR have great abilities {thus they are KOR} but from my pov Kallen has nothing to be jealous and afraid of.
It's because we're used to see KOR in the big shining kick-ass abilities Knightmares always like ready to strike and that is why a lot of people hold them higher. You ask me, Kallen has the exact same abilities as an honorable KOR member.

2008-07-04, 11:54	Link #3062
v1nx Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007	HQ OP "World's End" http://ru.youtube.com/watch?v=g3a7uQT3W1A

2008-07-04, 12:03	Link #3064
Dream_Traveller Banned Join Date: Jun 2007	In the case of Anya...note that she hasn't had the chance to show her true skill because of interruptions (Kallen and C.C.). I think Turn 16 will be good for her...

2008-07-04, 12:10	Link #3068
demon_god04 ~Hi -mi- tsu des~ Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Canada Age: 39	If anything it would be more like Xingke and the Knight of One, Toudou and Suzaku and Kallen and Gino.

2008-07-04, 12:14	Link #3069
incorrupts Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Greece Age: 35	It's not exactly exceptional skills those that KOR have, sure they got abilities but give me an awesome Knightmare with all the upgrades in the world and i'll kick Hercules's ass as well.

2008-07-04, 12:45	Link #3079
Dream_Traveller Banned Join Date: Jun 2007	Alright, it was unjustified, but it's just my opinion that she has more skill than she's currently shown. Apologies for my phrasing, sorry, and I know I could have put it differently, but it's just my personal view.