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Fran~ · 2010-10-21, 09:38

You are mixing things... When you say Naruto is this and that, you can't blame him, you need to say Kishimoto.... and you need to understand that this is a manga for kids, so many of the complaints about the plot or character development are ok in an "academic" point of view. But just remember how do you find this manga 10 years ago and what age you had back then.

What we found funny 10 years it's quite probable that now those jokes aren't funny.

This is a cycle in the forums about Naruto, when he is using by Kishi as a dork, there is flaming everywhere, but in the time Naruto kicks some butt, Naruto isn't that bad.

NoLongerSane · 2010-10-21, 11:08

Just finished looking at the chapter.

Spoiler for Spoiler:

james0246 · 2010-10-21, 11:26

So Kabuto literally ate Yamato...I imagine it is similar to swallowing a tooth pick

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btw, I love how pissed Zetsu looks at the end of the chapter...

Kallen4life · 2010-10-21, 11:35

madara took only one Rinnegan, because he still needs the Sharingan

nothing else happened

Shiryuu · 2010-10-21, 11:49

Surely Yamato isn't stupid enough to get caught and not have a bunshin...

I thought the lava/magma jutsu was a bloodline thing? The other girl seems to have it too.

NoLongerSane · 2010-10-21, 11:53

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Originally Posted by Shiryuu

Surely Yamato isn't stupid enough to get caught and not have a bunshin...

Well, in all technicality, nobody expected Kabuto to have pretty much given up the majority of his human form for that of a serpent. They were pretty much caught off by surprise so it would be logical that Yamato did not have enough time to do a bunshin.

Shiryuu · 2010-10-21, 11:59

He had enough time to disconnect from his wood jutsu and push Motoi. Hard to believe he didn't have time to make a bunshin, even to his own wood trap thing.

Fran~ · 2010-10-21, 12:19

Poor yamato, hmmm (gotta love Deidara's "hmmm", hmmm)

Luminion Lancer · 2010-10-21, 12:47

-Hahahaha, oh wow, talk about pathetic really. I never thought Yamato could sink any lower as a character. This was just plain sad for a chapter and there's nothing more to it. The only good bits were Onoki and Kurotsuchi, but even they barely did anything. What makes it worse is that this is all we have for 2 weeks.

Cael · 2010-10-21, 13:30

Looks like tables have turned, it was Yamato who had once captured Kabuto...

Kabuto's comments about Aoba are what caught my attention. First, he makes note that "Aoba's with them, too," and second he says "you've fallen farther than I have."

I've always had a suspicion about Aoba, and Kabuto now, makes it seem more likely.
Not only is he a mind reader, but uses a sight blocker involving crows, and also uses fire techniques. Plus the fact that we can't see his eyes. Is it possible he's related to Uchiha? Kabuto's last comment... makes you wonder if it was BS or if he knew something secret.

KidKoolAid · 2010-10-21, 14:11

This chapter was just okay, I am expecting it to pick up after the break. I enjoyed Deidara once again and Kabuto's inevitable turn into oro is much pleasing to me. What bothers me about how Naruto as an character is being written right now is how they talk about him behind his back, it lacks respect. Naruto is supposed to be the next hokage and that worries me. It is like someone dating a really hot , but nearly retarded chick. In the person face they talk about how cool you are for having such a hot chick , but then behind your back clown you for her being so dumb. This will be the hidden leaf's fate. It will be false respect in their faces , while other villages secretly laugh at them and plot , because their leader's mental capacity.

Artimus_Prime · 2010-10-21, 14:58

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Originally Posted by DeDe

I am beginning to think this was mandated by Shueisha. Perhaps they thought Naruto was too serious and needed to be more of the innocent and naive Naruto of the past? Naruto was always daft, but I can't explain why he is acting this stupid now. In no universe should a character like Aoba be dissing Naruto. Kishi just wrote an entire arc about how everyone in Konoha now respects Naruto. And here we have people lying to him and making fun of him behind his back about how stupid he is?

While i really believe this is a possbility, i am going to walk the road that says that Naruto has realized something is up and is will shadow clone sneak away to confirm it

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Originally Posted by Kallen4life

madara took only one Rinnegan, because he still needs the Sharingan

i speculated a while ago that Tobi only took one rinnegan because that dimensional transfer jutsu is just to useful to let go. and since it wasnt discarded it seems there is a loose end that still needs to be tied...

bhl88 · 2010-10-21, 14:59

There's only one eye he needs and it's going to be obvious, since it's closely related to the Sharingan:

Spoiler:

DeDe · 2010-10-21, 15:11

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Originally Posted by Cael

Kabuto's comments about Aoba are what caught my attention. First, he makes note that "Aoba's with them, too," and second he says "you've fallen farther than I have."

I've always had a suspicion about Aoba, and Kabuto now, makes it seem more likely.
Not only is he a mind reader, but uses a sight blocker involving crows, and also uses fire techniques. Plus the fact that we can't see his eyes. Is it possible he's related to Uchiha? Kabuto's last comment... makes you wonder if it was BS or if he knew something secret.

Aoba just uses Inoichi's mind reading jutsu. Tonbo the mummy guy as well as two other chuunin are also shown using this technique. Inoichi likely taught them since it would benefit Konoha.

Kabuto grew up in Konoha, so he probably knew Aoba who is about ten years older than him. Aoba was chastising Kabuto about what he has become. Kabuto shot back that Aoba has fallen farther than him. He is mocking him for being a nobody basically while Kabuto has great power. That's how I read it.

Having Aoba be an Uchiha or important would be like having Tenten be an Uzumaki and Naruto's sister. What for? It serves no purpose. Aoba is the most minor of characters and only recently has been in the manga after a long absence.

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Originally Posted by Artimus_Prime

While i really believe this is a possbility, i am going to walk the road that says that Naruto has realized something is up and is will shadow clone sneak away to confirm it

It doesn't really matter at this point. If Naruto saved the day this chapter by realizing that Aoba and Yamato were lying to him, and chased off Kabuto, nobody would be talking about how dense he is. But he is still there looking at animal penises. It doesn't really matter now if he figures out they were lying to him or made a clone to go spy on them. It doesn't change the past few chapters.

Shiryuu · 2010-10-21, 15:19

Somewhere in japan, a doujin artist is drawing up a female naruto pleasing a giant armadillo.

solidguy · 2010-10-21, 15:28

next arc, rescue yamato!

Ero-Senn1n · 2010-10-21, 15:34

Interesting chapter, i never expected that Kabuto turns into a monster that's even more ugly than Orochimaru was. His human face was just a mask, and his the hybrid body is always more ugly than just a snake. And finally Kabuto's strange walking movement was explained, sure he can't walk like a man when he's more like a snake now.

A bit disappointing that Kabuto didn't show his true strength here, since he used only Deidara, i guess he can use all of them at once. But knowing that Kabuto is just using Madara to gain something (he led Anko and her team to Madara's hideout previously, sure he is plotting something) makes it logical that he didn't want Madara to capture the last two demons right away, because he would not need Kabuto any more, and that might mean Kabuto's death. Kabuto's plan might be to let the two sides destroy each other, which makes Kabuto the winner.

I guess the reason why Madara changed only one eye to rinnegan is because his sharingan eye is the only one that has the escape-jutsu (teleporting, space-time) ability. Might be that Madara is able to use this MS-jutsu which is unique to that eye (like Kakashi's kamui) without the eye being evolved to MS state.

janipani · 2010-10-21, 16:47

Was it really necessary to show the armadillo's penis again, it wasn't that funny even in the first appearance. Well Kishi seems to really taking it easy again. I guess completing this manga is pain in ass to him or his sense of comedy has just got retarded. But most disappointed I am about Naruto's retardeness.

Alchemist007 · 2010-10-21, 19:18

Yeah Naruto shouldn't be so damn gullible anymore.

Fran~ · 2010-10-21, 20:22

What if Naruto is just playing dumb.... who knows?...

2010-10-21, 09:38	Link #41
Fran~ floating away... Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Beyond World's End	You are mixing things... When you say Naruto is this and that, you can't blame him, you need to say Kishimoto.... and you need to understand that this is a manga for kids, so many of the complaints about the plot or character development are ok in an "academic" point of view. But just remember how do you find this manga 10 years ago and what age you had back then. What we found funny 10 years it's quite probable that now those jokes aren't funny. This is a cycle in the forums about Naruto, when he is using by Kishi as a dork, there is flaming everywhere, but in the time Naruto kicks some butt, Naruto isn't that bad. __________________ Improving my english ^^

2010-10-21, 11:08	Link #42
NoLongerSane Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Texas	Just finished looking at the chapter. Spoiler for Spoiler: We finally get to see why Kabuto keeps that cloak on all the time. His body has literally become a human/serpent hybrid. Really like the way he captured Yamato using his form to do it. What really caught my attention was the it looks like Aoba has a connection to Kabuto.

2010-10-21, 11:35	Link #44
Kallen4life Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008	madara took only one Rinnegan, because he still needs the Sharingan nothing else happened __________________ When we hunt, we kill No one is safe Nothing is sacred We are Blackwatch We are the last line of defense We will burn our own to hold the red line, it is the last line to ever hold

2010-10-21, 12:19	Link #48
Fran~ floating away... Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Beyond World's End	Poor yamato, hmmm (gotta love Deidara's "hmmm", hmmm) __________________ Improving my english ^^

2010-10-21, 12:47	Link #49
Luminion Lancer Time-diver Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Location is all relative.	... -Hahahaha, oh wow, talk about pathetic really. I never thought Yamato could sink any lower as a character. This was just plain sad for a chapter and there's nothing more to it. The only good bits were Onoki and Kurotsuchi, but even they barely did anything. What makes it worse is that this is all we have for 2 weeks. __________________ -When all else fails, ram them with a force of an 18-wheeler.

2010-10-21, 11:26	Link #43
james0246 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: East Cupcake	So Kabuto literally ate Yamato...I imagine it is similar to swallowing a tooth pick . btw, I love how pissed Zetsu looks at the end of the chapter...

2010-10-21, 11:49	Link #45
Shiryuu Magical Boy Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hiding... don't try to find me. Age: 20	Surely Yamato isn't stupid enough to get caught and not have a bunshin... I thought the lava/magma jutsu was a bloodline thing? The other girl seems to have it too.

2010-10-21, 11:59	Link #47
Shiryuu Magical Boy Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hiding... don't try to find me. Age: 20	He had enough time to disconnect from his wood jutsu and push Motoi. Hard to believe he didn't have time to make a bunshin, even to his own wood trap thing.

2010-10-21, 13:30	Link #50
Cael Lurker Mode Join Date: Dec 2007	Looks like tables have turned, it was Yamato who had once captured Kabuto... Kabuto's comments about Aoba are what caught my attention. First, he makes note that "Aoba's with them, too," and second he says "you've fallen farther than I have." I've always had a suspicion about Aoba, and Kabuto now, makes it seem more likely. Not only is he a mind reader, but uses a sight blocker involving crows, and also uses fire techniques. Plus the fact that we can't see his eyes. Is it possible he's related to Uchiha? Kabuto's last comment... makes you wonder if it was BS or if he knew something secret.

2010-10-21, 14:11	Link #51
KidKoolAid Member Join Date: Sep 2009	This chapter was just okay, I am expecting it to pick up after the break. I enjoyed Deidara once again and Kabuto's inevitable turn into oro is much pleasing to me. What bothers me about how Naruto as an character is being written right now is how they talk about him behind his back, it lacks respect. Naruto is supposed to be the next hokage and that worries me. It is like someone dating a really hot , but nearly retarded chick. In the person face they talk about how cool you are for having such a hot chick , but then behind your back clown you for her being so dumb. This will be the hidden leaf's fate. It will be false respect in their faces , while other villages secretly laugh at them and plot , because their leader's mental capacity.

2010-10-21, 14:59	Link #53
bhl88 Otaku Apprentice Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Unseen Horizon	There's only one eye he needs and it's going to be obvious, since it's closely related to the Sharingan: Spoiler: Ao's Byakagun [I don't think he can peel it off though] or a Hyuuga's Byakagun (main branch) __________________ OS-tan Collections (temporary): https://discord.gg/Hv2rBs3

2010-10-21, 15:19	Link #55
Shiryuu Magical Boy Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hiding... don't try to find me. Age: 20	Somewhere in japan, a doujin artist is drawing up a female naruto pleasing a giant armadillo.

2010-10-21, 15:28	Link #56
solidguy I'm not a tumor Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: In the dreams of beautiful women Age: 31	next arc, rescue yamato!

2010-10-21, 15:34	Link #57
Ero-Senn1n Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hidden Village of Sake	Interesting chapter, i never expected that Kabuto turns into a monster that's even more ugly than Orochimaru was. His human face was just a mask, and his the hybrid body is always more ugly than just a snake. And finally Kabuto's strange walking movement was explained, sure he can't walk like a man when he's more like a snake now. A bit disappointing that Kabuto didn't show his true strength here, since he used only Deidara, i guess he can use all of them at once. But knowing that Kabuto is just using Madara to gain something (he led Anko and her team to Madara's hideout previously, sure he is plotting something) makes it logical that he didn't want Madara to capture the last two demons right away, because he would not need Kabuto any more, and that might mean Kabuto's death. Kabuto's plan might be to let the two sides destroy each other, which makes Kabuto the winner. I guess the reason why Madara changed only one eye to rinnegan is because his sharingan eye is the only one that has the escape-jutsu (teleporting, space-time) ability. Might be that Madara is able to use this MS-jutsu which is unique to that eye (like Kakashi's kamui) without the eye being evolved to MS state.

2010-10-21, 16:47	Link #58
janipani Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Europe	Was it really necessary to show the armadillo's penis again, it wasn't that funny even in the first appearance. Well Kishi seems to really taking it easy again. I guess completing this manga is pain in ass to him or his sense of comedy has just got retarded. But most disappointed I am about Naruto's retardeness. __________________ The man of million typos The master of confusing sentence structure -Best anime was made in 80s-

2010-10-21, 19:18	Link #59
Alchemist007 Senior Member Author Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: USA	Yeah Naruto shouldn't be so damn gullible anymore. __________________ Fanfics Art MyAnimeList

2010-10-21, 20:22	Link #60
Fran~ floating away... Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Beyond World's End	What if Naruto is just playing dumb.... who knows?... __________________ Improving my english ^^