Code Geass Episode 22 Discussion / Poll

[mist2123]

cool ur good at lip reading
his geass turn back at him but he can freely use it to wage war on britania

this anime will probably last longer than 2 season because of the plot

[Deathkillz]

Originally Posted by Malintex_Terek

Lelouch cried. ;-;

...

Awesome character is awesome.

yea...i feel like crying along with him ;_;

Spoiler:

everything just shifted into turbo drive and all that is unexpected has happened...
yuffie screwed up soo much at the main event its scary...all the big powers were watching the event...the chinese, EU and even her father...

and not to mention the biggest screw up by lulu...sheesh his eye has been acting up lately so he should have checked with CC before going through with having the private talk...so it seems that the contract affects both parties...CC is able to feel that lulu's geass has was acting strange and he just confirms her suspicions afterwards ~

and it seems that suzaku is able to sense CC...must have been the mind raping he recieved last time ~ and again he gets the same treatment...dragging 3 guards with him

that is a really pitty...from the moment yuffie fired that shot we can see the whole sky falling down on top of her...and WTF made those guys in the frames fire...sure its an order but dont they have a soul!!! (the can die under lulu's cannon for all i care)

and in the end lulu is left with the most painful decision...holy FCK! the emperor seems to be having fun and cornelia goes on a rampage...yuffie must be stopped!!

and Kaguya has attitude! her time is soon :3

[aohige]

Originally Posted by keriko

Haven't seen the ep but i give it a 10!

Since no one knows about the geass this will completely escalate the war between Britannia and The elevens.

What I want to know now is what happens when they find out Lelouch is zero...Cos let's face it, they are gonna find out. I mean Suzaku is his supposed best friend but was in love with euphemia....Cornelia is fighting on behalf of lelouch and nunally and clovis and now probably euphemia, what's this gonna change?

This leaves me wondering if Lelouch can be redeemed at all. He's only fighting for himself and Nunally. Cos let's face it he's not fighting for the Japanese as much as he's fighting against Britannia. Lulu is on a path that will eventually make him the main antagonist. He's losing himself in his power

Spoiler:

In this episode, there's a scene where a dying Eleven woman grabs onto Zero, calling him their savior, and pleas to him to save them.

He looks shocked, because HE is responsible for this massacre, although unintentional, and doesn't feel he's fit to be their "messiah".

I'm sure to repent for his mistake here, he'll do everything in his power to free the Elevens. Lelouch is that kind of guy... he will do any cruel means to achieve his goals, but he is also willing to take responsibility in all of his actions.

Originally Posted by Deathkillz

yea...i feel like crying along with him ;_;

Spoiler:

everything just shifted into turbo drive and all that is unexpected has happened...
yuffie screwed up soo much at the main event its scary...all the big powers were watching the event...the chinese, EU and even her father...

Well, that reminds me of one more thing.
The EU and Chinese reps said this.
"No way Zero is going to show up... if the information we gained about them is true"

I wonder if EU and the CF somehow got hold of information on Zero's identity?

[Shiroth]

Thats interesting: Schneizel knows all about the re-creation of Jeremiah. I thought it was just something hidden away along with the scientists --- should have clicked on with the re-appearance of Bartley of and all.

& wow, the list of new turn of events that happen in this episode is un-true. We're gonna have to work on one huge list for it.

[DJ_RockmanX]

Originally Posted by aohige

Well, that reminds me of one more thing.
The EU and Chinese reps said this.
"No way Zero is going to show up... if the information we gained about them is true"

I wonder if EU and the CF somehow got hold of information on Zero's identity?

I'm more interested in the reaction of the EU and CF after seeing this massacre. Sure Darlton said to cut the mic and camera feeds, but I'm sure that some of this live footage got out...

[ashlay]

Originally Posted by aohige

I'm sure to repent for his mistake here, he'll do everything in his power to free the Elevens. Lelouch is that kind of guy... he will do any cruel means to achieve his goals, but he is also willing to take responsibility in all of his actions.

kinda interesting that if you look at it that way, the way the whole situation turned out really makes Lelouch look like less of a bad guy. 0_o

[Deathkillz]

Originally Posted by random_passerby

I'm more interested in the reaction of the EU and CF after seeing this massacre. Sure Darlton said to cut the mic and camera feeds, but I'm sure that some of this live footage got out...

the footages did leek thanks to some l33t hacking skills from Diethard's friend
as for their reaction...looking at the preview...invasion?

[DJ_RockmanX]

Originally Posted by ashlay

kinda interesting that if you look at it that way, the way the whole situation turned out really makes Lelouch look like less of a bad guy. 0_o

Quite so. The spoilers say he gets more evil, but this doesn't strike me as "zomg ima kill u all now cuz im just liek that".

Instead we see Lelouch taking the full responsibility for what he did, in a "less than nice" way. Sure ordering the death of your own half-sibling looks just plain bad on the surface, but he's completely ashamed of his actions. Hell he even cried while issuing his order to the Black Knights.

He's only more "evil" because he runs out of "good" choices.

[ashlay]

^well, he also programmed Darlton to know doubt hand Cornelia over to the Order afterwards.

certainly seemed somewhat more evil after the woman died on his cape.


oh, and I'd say after this episode that CC does indeed have her own Geass power. (now it just depends if it's unique to her or all the 'immortals' possess it)

[0rphen21]

oh crap poor euphie at least lulu cried in the end showing how sorry he was for what happened and will happen

i have got to ask did ougi and violeta do it?

[Shiroth]

Originally Posted by ashlay

oh, and I'd say after this episode that CC does indeed have her own Geass power. (now it just depends if it's unique to her or all the 'immortals' possess it)

Well, it wasen't certain she had Geass power before this episode --- though i'm sure everyone at least knew she did.

At least now we know just how Jeremiah could be brought back into this: Schneizel shall probably use him against the Black Order in the upcoming battle. Probably sometime in episode 24/25 --- whenever they air.

[DJ_RockmanX]

I'm still not sure about C.C. having Geass powers. All I saw was her reacting to Lelouch's evolving powers. And the only reason that everyone around her collapsed is because they were dumb enough to touch her. (Of course, what do they know?)

[Shiroth]

Originally Posted by random_passerby

I'm still not sure about C.C. having Geass powers. All I saw was her reacting to Lelouch's evolving powers. And the only reason that everyone around her collapsed is because they were dumb enough to touch her. (Of course, what do they know?)

After she looked up at the three --- they receive red lines around the lines. The same thing that happens when someone is Geass'd. Also, you have the pattern of C.C.'s head lighting up just before.

[Kusaja]

Even if she does, it may simply be the power to awaken/grant Geass abilities in/to other people (unless her "telepathic chats" count as a power, which I doubt)

Or something completely different, but I'm going by what little we know thus far.

[DJ_RockmanX]

Originally Posted by Shiroth

After she looked up at the three --- they receive red lines around the lines. The same thing that happens when someone is Geass'd. Also, you have the pattern of C.C.'s head lighting up just before.

Ok, I rewatched that scene. It was sort of a Geass, but not exactly like what we're used to. I guess that her powers manifest themselves in that mark on her forehead, as you said. And thus she commenced mind rape by looking at them.

[SoldierOfDarkness]

Originally Posted by Juvyniled

Why does Lelouch need redemption? It's in his character to perpetrate such things, but beyond that, it wasn't his intention to Geass Euphemia into a murderer. This might desensitize him in further situations, but up until now, he's been influenced quite a bit by his conscience.

Spoiler:

Personally, I'd find this to be very very interesting and somewhat probable, though very unlikely. It wouldn't surprise me if the series concluded on a rather "peaceful" note with a major plot twist where Lelouch becomes ruler of what he intended to destroy. Although, Lelouch is still a long ways to go from being a real antagonist. I mean, the guy is out to do something good. Unless next season's focus is on a character from the Britannian side, there's nothing that is really pushing Lelouch into the antagonist's side. (The only half-sibling he's really cared about is Euphemia; everyone else is just an obstacle).

Think of it like spiderman. Peter Parker loved it when he got the symbiote suit that gave him enormous power but at the same time it fed on his emotions and such, he was being consumed by it (As May put it, revenge is like a poison, it'll consume you). And he started to become more and more ruthless as a result.

I see the same case with Lelouch here, his intentions are good but his powers are beginning to consume him because he simply cannot control it. In the end he will become the antagonist because of his powers.

[aohige]

Originally Posted by Shiroth

After she looked up at the three --- they receive red lines around the lines. The same thing that happens when someone is Geass'd. Also, you have the pattern of C.C.'s head lighting up just before.

Well, if she can send "Shock Image" to a pilot inside KMF,
I don't see how she can't send "Shock Images" to the bodyguards nearby, through the ground.

I think she just fried them just like Suzaku back in episode 11.

[Majek]

Originally Posted by SoldierOfDarkness

Think of it like spiderman. Peter Parker loved it when he got the symbiote suit that gave him enormous power but at the same time it fed on his emotions and such, he was being consumed by it (As May put it, revenge is like a poison, it'll consume you). And he started to become more and more ruthless as a result.

I see the same case with Lelouch here, his intentions are good but his powers are beginning to consume him because he simply cannot control it. In the end he will become the antagonist because of his powers.

Yeah by the time he will get to face his father, he'll be just like him so his father will just ROFLHAO when they meet

[Juvyniled]

I expected Lelouch to directly Geass Euphemia himself, though he didn't. At the very least he's still got some conscience in him.

Though it's a possibility Lelouch has some concern for the Elevens, I highly doubt he'll bend over backwards for them. And as long as Suzaku doesn't turn into a Shinn-type character who completely forgives and accepts what Euphemia did, then it should be pretty consistent.

[DJ_RockmanX]

Originally Posted by Juvyniled

I expected Lelouch to directly Geass Euphemia himself, though he didn't. At the very least he's still got some conscience in him.

Though it's a possibility Lelouch has some concern for the Elevens, I highly doubt he'll bend over backwards for them. And as long as Suzaku doesn't turn into a Shinn-type character who completely forgives and accepts what Euphemia did, then it should be pretty consistent.

Lelouch has a conscience, yes. Whether it's always around is debatable, but I think he cares more about the oppressed than he'll let on. After all, he could have just left that Japanese kid to be abused by that noble, but he didn't.

As for Suzaku, his irritating character is changing, I'll give him that. I might even say that he's rational enough to realize soon that Geassed Euphie cannot be reasoned with, and that he will be in her crosshairs too.