2012-08-21, 10:23 | Link #1961 |
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The thing is, while creating an 11-hit sword skill is impressive, part of that is going to be a function of the amount of time one has. Kirito is going to school, dating Asuna, and picking up the odd part time job in addition to playing ALO. Asuna is going to school with a lot of pressure to excel, and dating Kirito in addition to playing ALO. Yuuki on the other hand is stuck lying in a hospital bed, with essentially no demands on her time. So she has a lot more time to create an 11-hit skill than Kirito or Asuna do.
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2012-08-21, 11:18 | Link #1962 | |
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Both Kirito and Asuna had "more time" to create OSS than Yuuki, but of course in real "game time" sense it may not be as much. As for who's stronger, Kirito definitely has more experience than Yuuki, as evident with Spell Blast that impressed even Yuuki. But in a duel, not to the death, Yuuki's reaction speed is faster than Kirito, and as a result Kirito lost. If Kirito uses Dual Blade he'll likely win due to his understanding of the Seed system better, but then again he'll never use that unless its necessary.
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2012-08-21, 11:18 | Link #1963 |
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I don't get why he didn't dual wield anyway. It's not like it's an unfair skill in ALO as it's something he had to (re)create and anyone could do so if they had the personal skill at dual wielding. The only unfairness is that because he got the original Dual Blades skill so did that help teach him how to do it. But that doesn't change that it's not all his skill that keeps it alive.
But I got the impression that he knew Asuna was troubled and he thought this was a chance for her to get out of her funk. |
2012-08-21, 12:07 | Link #1964 | |
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You can compare it to mountain climbing where kirito knew the road to the submit while the other have to create the road themselves in order to reach the top. |
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2012-08-21, 12:21 | Link #1965 | |
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I re-read Mother's Rosario due to this thread (and teared up again!) and they seem to refer to it as a skill / <Dual Blades> instead of just dual wielding.. so I'm a tad confused. If Kirito really does have that skill, then it's definitely a "cheat" |
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2012-08-21, 12:28 | Link #1966 | |
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But this is really no different then how someone who knows how to use a spear can create spear related Sword Skills, while someone who doesn't know that will be unable to do that. It's still Kirito's personal skills at fighting that gives him this advantage and not some hax of the game. |
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2012-08-21, 13:28 | Link #1967 | |
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2nd. it is different from the spear since a. the spear sword skills is still available so the skill creation can based of that. b. other than kirito and possibly the game admin, nobody in the game know how the skill work. c. Kirito didn't have the skill to actually use it from the start, it is the system that let him and only him use that skill which is really unfair to other. It is not like the requirement for the skill is "you have to react at the certain speed" but "the highest reaction speed" which can be considered monopoly in the game and yeah try to imagine a game where only a player can put out double the damage just because he is the admin favorite player from the previous game. That skill is so hax that he can single handed deplete 60%HP of the 74th floor boss. |
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2012-08-21, 13:32 | Link #1968 | ||
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And I quote from the translation: Quote:
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2012-08-21, 14:15 | Link #1969 | |
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And I noticed no one brings up the point of his off-hand weapon being Excalibur at this point. I thought that he chose not to use the sword for selfish reasons (like, trying to win a duel, for example)? Though, I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it went along the lines of that. |
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2012-08-21, 14:16 | Link #1970 | |
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2012-08-21, 17:36 | Link #1973 | |
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So while the reason why he aquired the knowledge may be a bit unfair, so is it still his own knowledge and skills. |
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2012-08-21, 17:40 | Link #1975 |
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About [Dual Blades] in ALO, when SAO and ALO servers merged, they removed "10 or so odd skills", which were the unique skills.
So the skill [Dual Blades] doesn't exist in ALO, but since Kirito spent a long time mastering [Dual Blades] in SAO, he can replicate 99% of its movement without system assist (and the magical attributes). Spoiler for Quote from Caliber:
It is possible to wield two weapons at once, but in early ALO it was given up, considering the difficulties in mastering a twin style, Spoiler for From Vol. 3:
while in the current ALO there are no sword skills that involve two weapons, Kirito switched between right and left-handed skills in Caliber.
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2012-08-21, 17:46 | Link #1977 | |
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2012-08-21, 17:49 | Link #1978 | |||
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Next, chaining combos DOES NOT have anything to do with creating an OSS. Who made you think that? The <<Outside SYSTEM Skill>> (which is different from the OSS -- <<Outside Sword Skill>> ) <<Combo Chain>> utilizes hitting at the right moment (and place) to invoke another <<Sword Skill>> almost instantly. OSS requires lots of time to kill, mostly to practice the sword skill, something Kirito and Asuna don't have much because of RL. But, taking your words to count, an 11-combo skill is one of Yuuki's great plus. (You'd have to train so many hours to perfect that damn skill.) In the end, Kirito settled for just <<Skills>> vs <<Skills>> and NOT <<Experience&Skills>> vs <<Skills>>. Quote:
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2012-08-21, 18:15 | Link #1979 | |
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The fact he could reproduce them as far as 99% indicates he should have been able to record it. If 99% was not enough, players would have boycotted the game Spoiler for Quote from Vol. 7:
If they were viable for recording, Kirito would have recorded and used [The Ecplise], a 27-hit skill on the Minotaur, instead of combining four individual skills for 16-hits. It's also possible, that he could have recorded it, but simply chose not to, since he decided to only dual wield when the game severely affects the real world. Recording them as OSS might have conflicted with his decision?
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