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View Poll Results: Critique of Episode 174 | |||
091 - 100: Amazing... | 18 | 38.30% | |
081 - 090: Great... | 12 | 25.53% | |
071 - 080: Very Good... | 2 | 4.26% | |
061 - 070: Good... | 9 | 19.15% | |
051 - 060: Average... | 0 | 0% | |
041 - 050: Below Average... | 1 | 2.13% | |
031 - 040: Bad... | 0 | 0% | |
021 - 030: Very Bad... | 2 | 4.26% | |
011 - 020: Awful... | 1 | 2.13% | |
000 - 010: The animators/directors obviously hate you; why else wouldn they produce such drek... | 2 | 4.26% | |
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2010-08-21, 13:29 | Link #41 | |
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But this scene causes us to rage even more considering it involves the neutering of Team Gai in order to boost Naruto's street cred...I would have prefered if Hinata actually died; the scene and character development would have been all the more powerful if she had actually died. |
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2010-08-21, 15:13 | Link #42 | |
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But lets not get into pointless discussions, the way Naruto dealt with Nagato was to show that killing isn't the answer and alternate measures can bear greater fruits.
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2010-08-21, 16:56 | Link #43 |
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Great closure to an amazing arc, now I know Nagato didn't die and everything, but he wasn't really a bad guy, more of a victimized villain, and even so it's not like Naruto "opened his eyes" to what he's done in the past, rather that he managed to gain his trust towards a better future. Damn, Naruto should run for president
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2010-08-21, 17:00 | Link #44 | |
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BTW Hinata's death would ruin her "character developement", since her character would not exist any more A death and resurrection can also add to the "character developement" of the one who died, take for example Kakashi, sure his soul is now at piece when he thinks about his father. It's also an interesting situation for all of those Konoha ninjas that either hated or disrespected Naruto, now they must deal with their prejudice and idiocy, sure that triggers some developement on their side. I can understand your wish for less cliche/conventional story, but not only the death of a lot of main characters can do the job. It would be more interesting if Nagato decided to run away and return in the future for more destruction, in that case konoha people would blame Naruto, now that would be interesting, if Naruto had to even leave the village because of this. |
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2010-08-21, 17:07 | Link #45 |
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I think Hinata's confession made room for some romantic development, I mean, Naruto will have to give her an answer, right? It would be good to have a straightforward conversation, even if it ended openly. I also think James just wants Hinata dead so that Hanabi can be the next main branch head and eventually Hokage xD
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2010-08-21, 17:20 | Link #46 | |
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Yeah I think they'd vote for Mr.Hokage candidate #1.
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2010-08-21, 17:40 | Link #47 |
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it is nice how they made Jiraiya the character who changed Nagato rather than naruto's past.
it so hard when you discovered that some one had a faith in you and you let him down, not just that but killed him too .. poor Jiraiya, he will never know that both of his students are the prophecy child. |
2010-08-22, 06:59 | Link #52 |
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More like wife of Hokage - Konohamaru x Hanabi ftw xD
Anyway, there's one thing bothering me - Konan says something like "If he performs this jutsu at his current chakra level, he'll die". Soooo... why is he rushing it? It would be much more logical to regenerate his chakra, and then do mass ressurect. I was thinking that maybe there's time limit, but even so he should wait until just before that limit, to improve his chances of surviving and helping Naruto after that. Whatever, rights of shounen anime are stronger |
2010-08-23, 16:09 | Link #53 | |
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I had the exact same thought and the only excuse I could think of was the one you mentioned aswell. We know there is a time limit between someones death and revival since jiraiya couldnt be revived. But it all seems very unlikely nevertheless, kishi simply needed an excuse to get rid of nagato without naruto having to kill him or having to deal with him further along(nagato not dying). |
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2010-08-24, 16:01 | Link #54 | |
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2010-08-26, 11:56 | Link #56 |
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Psychologically, this works for both Nagato and Naruto...Naruto is able to draw on just what the pain of war will bring because he's finally experienced it through Nagato, and despite everything that had just transpired before him, still continues on a path to peace...Nagato through Naruto realizes the truth behind Jiraiya's actions and words and the path that Naruto took was supposed to be the path that Nagato himself should have took, brings about a classic redemption through death scenario...
Literally, Nagato always did fancy himself in the deity complex, so this final act is quite fitting... :P
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2010-08-26, 15:51 | Link #57 | |
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That is the way of Naruto pairings. |
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