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Ninja82 · 2006-03-09, 03:15

Hello. I have a guide for SSA.
In the rotation commands (frx,fry,frz) is writting this: "{\frx<degrees>} would rotate about the X axis (imagine a pig roasting over an open pit) {\fry<degrees>} would rotate about the Y axis (imagine a pole dancer swinging around the steel pole)"

What i want is for example in the "\fry" NOT to swing around the steel pole. Think of that dancer to swing around himself. I hope you understand what i mean.
If not please look at the karaoke of Anime-Kraze in Angel Heart you will understand.
(I know probably that karaoke was made by another software than SSA)

If you have any idea how to do this please tell me.
Thanks.

Sergejack · 2006-03-09, 04:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninja82

Hello. I have a guide for SSA.
In the rotation commands (frx,fry,frz) is writting this: "{\frx<degrees>} would rotate about the X axis (imagine a pig roasting over an open pit) {\fry<degrees>} would rotate about the Y axis (imagine a pole dancer swinging around the steel pole)"

What i want is for example in the "\fry" NOT to swing around the steel pole. Think of that dancer to swing around himself. I hope you understand what i mean.
If not please look at the karaoke of Anime-Kraze in Angel Heart you will understand.
(I know probably that karaoke was made by another software than SSA)

If you have any idea how to do this please tell me.
Thanks.

Why not to tell us what you want instead of telling us what you don't want?

Ninja82 · 2006-03-09, 04:58

I want the letters to rotate on the way i said above.

Out of subject.
Any ideas how to fix this error in After effect? Every time i am trying to import Xvid video file i am getting this error.
"After Effects Error: retrieving frame from video stream (3) (53::34)"

Edge · 2006-03-09, 05:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninja82

What i want is for example in the "\fry" NOT to swing around the steel pole. Think of that dancer to swing around himself. I hope you understand what i mean.
If not please look at the karaoke of Anime-Kraze in Angel Heart you will understand.
(I know probably that karaoke was made by another software than SSA)

If you have any idea how to do this please tell me.
Thanks.

You're going to have to use the {\org(x,y)} command in conjunction with {\fry} to rearrange the position around which the syllables are spinning.

Sergejack · 2006-03-09, 07:04

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Originally Posted by Ninja82

I want the letters to rotate on the way i said above.

Ok then, to not spin like a dancer : use no {\fr?} but the {uselessXXX} mark, where XXX is any angle you sure don't want the text to rotate.
I can't say for sure this is a "trick" AK would use, but it does work.

raiZarharva · 2006-03-09, 16:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninja82

I want the letters to rotate on the way i said above.

Out of subject.
Any ideas how to fix this error in After effect? Every time i am trying to import Xvid video file i am getting this error.
"After Effects Error: retrieving frame from video stream (3) (53::34)"

AFTER EFFECTS doesnt like support XVID or any avi stuff i believe.... um it comes up with that error every time unless the video u have to import as been encoded by a codec like "Huffy" or if an "uncompressed" video which would be large in size since no true container i suppose.

zalas · 2006-03-10, 04:49

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Originally Posted by raiZarharva

AFTER EFFECTS doesnt like support XVID or any avi stuff i believe.... um it comes up with that error every time unless the video u have to import as been encoded by a codec like "Huffy" or if an "uncompressed" video which would be large in size since no true container i suppose.

Yes, Adobe software tends to *hate* working with anything other than intraframe video. After Effects tend to behave a bit better, as you can use its built in facilities to import and export Lagarith, HuffYUV, etc. Adobe Premiere's VFW support is severely broken, and you'll need a frameserving plugin to properly export compressed avi files. Personally, I recommend working with some lossless codec like HuffYUV or Lagarith(if you have the processing power). Motion JPEG is a good choice if you just want a preview and are starving for space. ffdshow has a workable, if not slow, implementation of mjpeg which you can enable for VFW.

SCR512 · 2006-03-11, 19:32

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Originally Posted by zalas

Yes, Adobe software tends to *hate* working with anything other than intraframe video. After Effects tend to behave a bit better, as you can use its built in facilities to import and export Lagarith, HuffYUV, etc. Adobe Premiere's VFW support is severely broken, and you'll need a frameserving plugin to properly export compressed avi files. Personally, I recommend working with some lossless codec like HuffYUV or Lagarith(if you have the processing power). Motion JPEG is a good choice if you just want a preview and are starving for space. ffdshow has a workable, if not slow, implementation of mjpeg which you can enable for VFW.

Yeah, I would suggest using Lagarith. I've been using Lagarith for a good amount of time and have yet to encounter any horrid issues. Also when karaoke or typesetting a fansub, I would suggest making clips of the sign or karaoke and then compressing that out to Lagarith. Once you have done whatever then you can render out a RGBA and overlay it in the final encode using AVS.

DeathWolf · 2006-03-12, 01:14

vble is a very good candidate for input video because:
1.it works internally in yv12(and 99% of the time you'll have yv12 sources)
2.it works flawlessly in afx for input
3.it compresses well

Lag/huffy tend to disagree with afx if you use yv12...
They are great for output though.

SayaSP · 2006-03-12, 01:19

Gah, I have ran into another problem. Viewing the video in Aegisub, I can see everything clearly. However when viewed in VDub, the kanji is all ASCII'ed. I have the kanji on a japanese font. Is it some text encoding detail I missed? Help please.

Eddy · 2006-03-12, 02:39

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Originally Posted by SayaSP

Gah, I have ran into another problem. Viewing the video in Aegisub, I can see everything clearly. However when viewed in VDub, the kanji is all ASCII'ed. I have the kanji on a japanese font. Is it some text encoding detail I missed? Help please.

change the ass/ssa file encoding to unicode...

jfs · 2006-03-12, 04:43

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Originally Posted by Eddy

change the ass/ssa file encoding to unicode...

Which is bluntly put, nonsense. Unicode is not an encoding but a character repetoire and a set of various rules. Old versions of DirectVobSub (old name of VSFilter/TextSub, version 2.23 and earlier) only support one Unicode encoding, UTF-16, which is what Windows Notepad saves in if you choose "Unicode" in Save As.
Later versions of TextSub (aka. VSFilter) support both UTF-16 and UTF-8, but I will strongly recommend UTF-8, simply because it's smaller in almost every case.
If you're using an old version of DVobSub without UTF-8 support I strongly suggest you upgrade. (Link to latest build on SourceForge)

Another important point to note is that most fonts misbehave when using Japanese text, if you don't set the encoding field in the style to Japanese, ie. numeric value 128. (If you have a file in a non-Unicode encoding, setting that also allows you to use Shift-JIS encoding for text in that style. You can also switch encoding inline using the \fe override.)
Note that this may be required even if the file is using a Unicode encoding!

TheFluff · 2006-03-12, 08:05

Also note that Aegisub saves in UTF-8 by default.

SayaSP · 2006-03-12, 10:04

Thanks for the information. The problem was an old version, 2.23 to be exact. (._. ) Works perfectly now.

errorrrr · 2006-03-26, 18:32

What's the tag for gaps in a setence where the singer breathes... Substation Alpha auomtically adjust the k-tags to occupy the whole sentence... Is there a shocrut to timing sylabble? Or just have to keep chaing the k-tags so the timings are righT? For example, this is the first line from Kiss Me Good-Bye (FFXII):

Dialogue: Marked=0,0:00:11.47,0:00:20.08,*Default,,0000,0000 ,0000,Karaoke,{\k111}You {\k111}say {\k83}my {\k139}love {\k83}is {\k111}all {\k111}you {\k112}need

Unlike timing regular sub where there are grab time, I had to manually edit each k-values to the right length... and if there gaps I fill it up with the word before the gap. Is there a more efficient way?

TheFluff · 2006-03-26, 21:24

Use a better program - both Medusa and Aegisub have quite efficient karaoke timing modes (I'm unsure about Sabbu, but I imagine it has one as well).

As for timing pauses, maybe an example will explain it best:

Code:

Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.51,0:00:14.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\k19}Su{\k27}su{\k130}me{\k32} {\k18}to{\k40}ki{\k0} {\k22}no{\k0} {\k33}ha{\k7}{\k35}te{\k0} {\k336}he

Note the {\k0}'s for most spaces - this isn't required, but it's useful for some evil purposes, such as creating fancy effects using various scripts or effect makers. Also note that you can put two \k tags in a row, or put a \k tag on a space - both will create a "pause" since nothing will be drawn during the time of that \k.

errorrrr · 2006-03-26, 22:05

I have sabbu, but I dont' even see a karaoke mode... -_-''' I have the latest ver.

Sylf · 2006-03-26, 22:27

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Originally Posted by errorrrr

I have sabbu, but I dont' even see a karaoke mode... -_-''' I have the latest ver.

The latest sabbu sure doesn't have karaoke mode.
In fact, only a handful of versions of sabbu ever had working karaoke mode. Personally, I use Sabbu 0.2.7 Beta 14 when I need to time karaoke.

G.U.N.D.A.M · 2006-04-07, 06:34

how can I do a karaoke with adobe after effect ?

DeathWolf · 2006-04-07, 22:58

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Originally Posted by G.U.N.D.A.M

how can I do a karaoke with adobe after effect ?

buy a valid licence and learn how to use it?

2006-03-12, 08:05	Link #193
TheFluff Excessively jovial fellow Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: ISDB-T Age: 37	Also note that Aegisub saves in UTF-8 by default. __________________ \| ffmpegsource 17:43:13 <~deculture> Also, TheFluff, you are so fucking slowpoke.jpg that people think we dropped the DVD's. 17:43:16 <~deculture> nice job, fag! 01:04:41 < Plorkyeran> it was annoying to typeset so it should be annoying to read

2006-03-26, 21:24	Link #196
TheFluff Excessively jovial fellow Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: ISDB-T Age: 37	Use a better program - both Medusa and Aegisub have quite efficient karaoke timing modes (I'm unsure about Sabbu, but I imagine it has one as well). As for timing pauses, maybe an example will explain it best: Code: Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.51,0:00:14.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\k19}Su{\k27}su{\k130}me{\k32} {\k18}to{\k40}ki{\k0} {\k22}no{\k0} {\k33}ha{\k7}{\k35}te{\k0} {\k336}he Note the {\k0}'s for most spaces - this isn't required, but it's useful for some evil purposes, such as creating fancy effects using various scripts or effect makers. Also note that you can put two \k tags in a row, or put a \k tag on a space - both will create a "pause" since nothing will be drawn during the time of that \k. __________________ \| ffmpegsource 17:43:13 <~deculture> Also, TheFluff, you are so fucking slowpoke.jpg that people think we dropped the DVD's. 17:43:16 <~deculture> nice job, fag! 01:04:41 < Plorkyeran> it was annoying to typeset so it should be annoying to read

2006-03-09, 03:15	Link #181
Ninja82 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	Hello. I have a guide for SSA. In the rotation commands (frx,fry,frz) is writting this: "{\frx<degrees>} would rotate about the X axis (imagine a pig roasting over an open pit) {\fry<degrees>} would rotate about the Y axis (imagine a pole dancer swinging around the steel pole)" What i want is for example in the "\fry" NOT to swing around the steel pole. Think of that dancer to swing around himself. I hope you understand what i mean. If not please look at the karaoke of Anime-Kraze in Angel Heart you will understand. (I know probably that karaoke was made by another software than SSA) If you have any idea how to do this please tell me. Thanks.

2006-03-09, 04:58	Link #183
Ninja82 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	I want the letters to rotate on the way i said above. Out of subject. Any ideas how to fix this error in After effect? Every time i am trying to import Xvid video file i am getting this error. "After Effects Error: retrieving frame from video stream (3) (53::34)"

2006-03-12, 01:14	Link #189
DeathWolf Member Join Date: Nov 2003	vble is a very good candidate for input video because: 1.it works internally in yv12(and 99% of the time you'll have yv12 sources) 2.it works flawlessly in afx for input 3.it compresses well Lag/huffy tend to disagree with afx if you use yv12... They are great for output though.

2006-03-12, 01:19	Link #190
SayaSP Why am I here? Join Date: Feb 2006	Gah, I have ran into another problem. Viewing the video in Aegisub, I can see everything clearly. However when viewed in VDub, the kanji is all ASCII'ed. I have the kanji on a japanese font. Is it some text encoding detail I missed? Help please.

2006-03-12, 10:04	Link #194
SayaSP Why am I here? Join Date: Feb 2006	Thanks for the information. The problem was an old version, 2.23 to be exact. (._. ) Works perfectly now.

2006-03-26, 18:32	Link #195
errorrrr Member Join Date: Mar 2006	What's the tag for gaps in a setence where the singer breathes... Substation Alpha auomtically adjust the k-tags to occupy the whole sentence... Is there a shocrut to timing sylabble? Or just have to keep chaing the k-tags so the timings are righT? For example, this is the first line from Kiss Me Good-Bye (FFXII): Dialogue: Marked=0,0:00:11.47,0:00:20.08,*Default,,0000,0000 ,0000,Karaoke,{\k111}You {\k111}say {\k83}my {\k139}love {\k83}is {\k111}all {\k111}you {\k112}need Unlike timing regular sub where there are grab time, I had to manually edit each k-values to the right length... and if there gaps I fill it up with the word before the gap. Is there a more efficient way?

2006-03-26, 22:05	Link #197
errorrrr Member Join Date: Mar 2006	I have sabbu, but I dont' even see a karaoke mode... -_-''' I have the latest ver.

2006-04-07, 06:34	Link #199
G.U.N.D.A.M Member Join Date: Feb 2006	how can I do a karaoke with adobe after effect ?