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**Klashikari** · 2012-01-31, 10:12

Ryukishi07 has announced today the name of his next VN installment by 07th Expansion: Rose Guns Days.

Little is known about its setting, aside it is set on 1947, with this cryptic sub title: "1947年、暗黒街。求む用心棒。" (1947, the underworld. Looking for a bodyguard.)

As of now, there is no confirmation if this serie will be part of the Naku Koro ni (When They Cry) installment, or a stand alone like Higanbana no Saku Yoru ni.

Website: http://07th-expansion.net/rose/Main.htm

RedKey · 2012-01-31, 10:12

Uuuh I hope I'm not going too off-topic, don't know where else to post.
It seems the new 07th Expansion vn will be called 「ローズガンズデイズ」. How would that be romanized? Rose... guns... days...?

edit: nvm, I'm dumb. There's a splash screen already. http://07th-expansion.net/rose/Main.htm

st_nick5 · 2012-01-31, 10:34

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Originally Posted by RedKey

Uuuh I hope I'm not going too off-topic, don't know where else to post.
It seems the new 07th Expansion vn will be called 「ローズガンズデイズ」. How would that be romanized? Rose... guns... days...?

edit: nvm, I'm dumb. There's a splash screen already. http://07th-expansion.net/rose/Main.htm

Is he moving away from the "naku koro ni" series now, or is he going to come back to them at some point?

edit - Anyone know what this will be about?

RedKey · 2012-01-31, 10:40

The subtitle reads '1947, the underworld. Looking for a bodyguard'. But I can't figure out if 暗黒街 means underworld as in the realm of the dead or mafia-like stuff. I suppose it's the latter though, as iirc the Hades would be 冥界.

LyricalAura · 2012-01-31, 11:13

Yes, probably mafia. Although if it were a setting like Grim Fandango, that would be pretty awesome.

GyroidFanatic · 2012-01-31, 11:20

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Originally Posted by RedKey

The subtitle reads '1947, the underworld. Looking for a bodyguard'. But I can't figure out if 暗黒街 means underworld as in the realm of the dead or mafia-like stuff. I suppose it's the latter though, as iirc the Hades would be 冥界.

1947 was during the post-war occupation of Japan, so I imagine that will be a big theme.

Jan-Poo · 2012-01-31, 11:26

Unless this will be set in another country for a change. Roses and Guns don't really make me think about Japan, but anything is possible.

Kylon99 · 2012-01-31, 12:02

You know, after a detective setting with Umineko, maybe he's following the genre as it historically gave way to hard boiled detective or film noir fiction. Maybe that's what this is. I'm calling it!

L in Hinamizawa · 2012-01-31, 12:27

It's here!!!!!
Ryukishi07 just released the logo for his new series, Rose Guns Days!!!

http://07th-expansion.net/rose/Main.htm

The main page has a little blurb about it too.http://07th-expansion.net/Main.htm

All I can say is, YES! YES! YES!!!

I'm curious, can anyone please translate what the words are underneath the main logo text? I can't read Japanese unfortunately. Anyways, I'm so happy! Let the speculation begin!

immblueversion · 2012-01-31, 12:44

Ya know, considering "暗黒街" does mean "underworld" and it pops up in the Japanese titles of movies like Scarface...

Rayneing · 2012-01-31, 12:58

For some reason, that teaser webpage is giving me a bit of a cowboy/western vibe. Interested to see exactly what this is.

Bluemail · 2012-01-31, 13:07

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Originally Posted by L in Hinamizawa

It's here!!!!!
Ryukishi07 just released the logo for his new series, Rose Guns Days!!!

http://07th-expansion.net/rose/Main.htm

The main page has a little blurb about it too.http://07th-expansion.net/Main.htm

All I can say is, YES! YES! YES!!!

I'm curious, can anyone please translate what the words are underneath the main logo text? I can't read Japanese unfortunately. Anyways, I'm so happy! Let the speculation begin!

It says: "1947, the underworld. Looking for a bodyguard." I wonder if it's going to be a noir/hard-boiled detective story. That would be really great. Somehow the title also makes me think of a western, which might be great too. Or perhaps this underworld is not what we believe it to be...

I'm excited about this as well, though the title sounded a bit weird. After all, 07th Expansion previous titles were all in Japanese, and had about the same structure. This new English name with three words not making a sentence makes me think of Fate Stay Night.

I think Ryukishi said this was going to be a series at least, and not a single sound novel, though we can't be sure.

Actually, did 07th Expansion use ノベルゲーム (Novel Game) instead of サウンドノベル (Sound Novel) for the first time?

RedKey · 2012-01-31, 13:29

>continuing from the Umineko translation thread
I guess I did post in the wrong place after all. Sorry, Klashikari.

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Originally Posted by Bluemail

Actually, did 07th Expansion use ノベルゲーム (Novel Game) instead of サウンドノベル (Sound Novel) for the first time?

Good point. I wonder if he intends to expand the interactivity he tested with Umineko EP8, or at least have a multi-ending game.

myopius · 2012-01-31, 13:40

So we have conspicuous use of the English language, the words "rose" and "guns", bricks, worn paper, a metallic gleam to the title, 1947, the (criminal) underworld, and someone looking for a bodyguard.

I don't find it hard to imagine that Rose Guns Days will be set in a country like America or Britain, especially considering the Western influence in Umineko's setting.

And of course, when it comes to bodyguards, I can't help but be reminded of

Spoiler for Vague spoiler for Umineko episode 4+:

and so I find myself thinking the "rose" (notably in the singular form compared to "guns") could be a young lady. Although the plot of a bishoujo in need of a bodyguard has been done before in anime and manga, with Ryuukishi the writer perceived cliches need not be feared.

I look forward to more information.

SilverSyko · 2012-01-31, 16:59

Huh. I was under the impression the second part of the subtitle said "a city by night", not "the underworld", but I guess either-or makes sense if you think about it. There is the term "criminal underground" after all.

But yeah. I can easily see the setting from the info we have here as something like L.A. Noire, with it's 1940's film noir detective cases, except only in a visual novel form and with Ryukishi07's personal artstyle. In that case the setting most likely isn't in Japan, which is cool.

Interested in seeing more.~

immblueversion · 2012-01-31, 17:53

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Originally Posted by Bluemail

Actually, did 07th Expansion use ノベルゲーム (Novel Game) instead of サウンドノベル (Sound Novel) for the first time?

Well, I looked up ノベルゲーム on the Japanese Wikipedia, and it redirected to ビジュアルノベル (visual novel), meaning the term, similar to "sound novel", is at least related to a visual novel. However, I wouldn't know if or how it will be different from the format of Higurashi, Umineko, and Higanbana. Maybe it will play out more like a game than the previous games by requiring more interaction from the player besides scrolling to text? Of course, this is merely pure speculation with a weak basis.

Ander · 2012-01-31, 20:09

This will be pretty interesting, can't wait :3

By the way, 1947 = Black Dahlia Murder??

Von Himmel · 2012-01-31, 20:18

The first that came up to my mind was : Guns and Roses w

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Unless this will be set in another country for a change. Roses and Guns don't really make me think about Japan, but anything is possible.

I also think that the setting won't be in Japan too.

Tyabann · 2012-02-01, 03:26

So, what, is he going to tackle American detective fiction after attempting the British tradition? Awesome.

MeoTwister5 · 2012-02-01, 03:36

If he plans detective film noir style post WW2... well lets see how he fares.

2012-01-31, 10:12	Link #1
Klashikari 阿賀野型3番艦、矢矧 Lv180 Graphic Designer Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Belgium, Brussels Age: 37	Rose Guns Days (07th Expansion) Ryukishi07 has announced today the name of his next VN installment by 07th Expansion: Rose Guns Days. Little is known about its setting, aside it is set on 1947, with this cryptic sub title: "1947年、暗黒街。求む用心棒。" (1947, the underworld. Looking for a bodyguard.) As of now, there is no confirmation if this serie will be part of the Naku Koro ni (When They Cry) installment, or a stand alone like Higanbana no Saku Yoru ni. Website: http://07th-expansion.net/rose/Main.htm __________________ [Sig art: Kagura Yuu, Nunukko, Maku Rako & Mishima Kurone] / [Twitter] Last edited by Klashikari; 2012-01-31 at 13:20.

2012-01-31, 10:12	Link #2
RedKey 天界の異端審問官 Join Date: Apr 2011	Roses Guns Days (Next 07th Expansion Visual Novel) Uuuh I hope I'm not going too off-topic, don't know where else to post. It seems the new 07th Expansion vn will be called 「ローズガンズデイズ」. How would that be romanized? Rose... guns... days...? edit: nvm, I'm dumb. There's a splash screen already. http://07th-expansion.net/rose/Main.htm

2012-01-31, 11:13	Link #5
LyricalAura Dea ex Kakera Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sea of Fragments	Yes, probably mafia. Although if it were a setting like Grim Fandango, that would be pretty awesome. __________________ "Something has fallen on us that falls very seldom on men; perhaps the worst thing that can fall on them. We have found the truth; and the truth makes no sense."

2012-01-31, 11:26	Link #7
Jan-Poo 別にいいけど Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: forever lost inside a logic error	Unless this will be set in another country for a change. Roses and Guns don't really make me think about Japan, but anything is possible. __________________

2012-01-31, 12:44	Link #10
immblueversion Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Where you're not.	Ya know, considering "暗黒街" does mean "underworld" and it pops up in the Japanese titles of movies like Scarface... __________________ I'm not the boss. I just know what you should be doing.

2012-01-31, 10:40	Link #4
RedKey 天界の異端審問官 Join Date: Apr 2011	The subtitle reads '1947, the underworld. Looking for a bodyguard'. But I can't figure out if 暗黒街 means underworld as in the realm of the dead or mafia-like stuff. I suppose it's the latter though, as iirc the Hades would be 冥界.

2012-01-31, 12:02	Link #8
Kylon99 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Meta-Meta-Meta-Space	You know, after a detective setting with Umineko, maybe he's following the genre as it historically gave way to hard boiled detective or film noir fiction. Maybe that's what this is. I'm calling it!

2012-01-31, 12:27	Link #9
L in Hinamizawa I guess Erika would be E? Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: In Hinamizawa trying to solve the Curse of Oyashiro Sama Age: 31	It's here!!!!! Ryukishi07 just released the logo for his new series, Rose Guns Days!!! http://07th-expansion.net/rose/Main.htm The main page has a little blurb about it too.http://07th-expansion.net/Main.htm All I can say is, YES! YES! YES!!! I'm curious, can anyone please translate what the words are underneath the main logo text? I can't read Japanese unfortunately. Anyways, I'm so happy! Let the speculation begin!

2012-01-31, 12:58	Link #11
Rayneing Trombe! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: England. Age: 33	For some reason, that teaser webpage is giving me a bit of a cowboy/western vibe. Interested to see exactly what this is. __________________

2012-01-31, 13:40	Link #14
myopius Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006	So we have conspicuous use of the English language, the words "rose" and "guns", bricks, worn paper, a metallic gleam to the title, 1947, the (criminal) underworld, and someone looking for a bodyguard. I don't find it hard to imagine that Rose Guns Days will be set in a country like America or Britain, especially considering the Western influence in Umineko's setting. And of course, when it comes to bodyguards, I can't help but be reminded of Spoiler for Vague spoiler for Umineko episode 4+: Ange and Amakusa and so I find myself thinking the "rose" (notably in the singular form compared to "guns") could be a young lady. Although the plot of a bishoujo in need of a bodyguard has been done before in anime and manga, with Ryuukishi the writer perceived cliches need not be feared. I look forward to more information.

2012-01-31, 16:59	Link #15
SilverSyko Okuyasu the Bird Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Alberta, Canada Age: 32	Huh. I was under the impression the second part of the subtitle said "a city by night", not "the underworld", but I guess either-or makes sense if you think about it. There is the term "criminal underground" after all. But yeah. I can easily see the setting from the info we have here as something like L.A. Noire, with it's 1940's film noir detective cases, except only in a visual novel form and with Ryukishi07's personal artstyle. In that case the setting most likely isn't in Japan, which is cool. Interested in seeing more.~ __________________ Last edited by SilverSyko; 2012-02-01 at 03:36.

2012-01-31, 20:09	Link #17
Ander Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2011	This will be pretty interesting, can't wait :3 By the way, 1947 = Black Dahlia Murder??

2012-02-01, 03:26	Link #19
Tyabann Homo Ludens Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada Age: 34	So, what, is he going to tackle American detective fiction after attempting the British tradition? Awesome.

2012-02-01, 03:36	Link #20
MeoTwister5 Komrades of Kitamura Kou Join Date: Jul 2004 Age: 39	If he plans detective film noir style post WW2... well lets see how he fares. __________________ Medical Student vs. Anime Last Exile - Fam the Silver Wing -