General Questions Thread

[HasuMasu]

I realize Jap -> Eng translations don't always go well, but why do places like Baka-Tsuki neglect in editing these translations to something English readers can more easily understand? Every other sentence or so in Hidan no Aria, I find myself reading over thrice to understand exactly what's been said. There a reason for this? Time constraints? Boredom? Some sort of honor code?

i have no problem reading the stuff on baka-tsuki, then again, different people handle different projects so i guess it just comes down to that

[Icy.Tear]

Originally Posted by Asuras

I've been tring more often to read Light Novels recently, despite my inability to pay attention to large columns of words on a computer screen, and couldn't help but notice...

I realize Jap -> Eng translations don't always go well, but why do places like Baka-Tsuki neglect in editing these translations to something English readers can more easily understand? Every other sentence or so in Hidan no Aria, I find myself reading over thrice to understand exactly what's been said. There a reason for this? Time constraints? Boredom? Some sort of honor code?

Ah...What exactly is the problem? Too many commas? Or is it not localized enough?

I suppose that, if you aren't very good at recognizing modifiers, 'twould be hard to read.

In other news, Baka Tsuki is a wiki and anybody is free to edit it. So, don't just push your problems down on the translators and editors, it's not their job, it's not their responsibility, it's their free will. If you think you know a better way of phrasing a sentence, by all means, change it. It's not like the translators are unable to change it back if they think it'll change the meaning of the sentence.

Then again, if you're too lazy to do so, there's no reason to expect the editors or translators to do it for you.

[Dist]

Well it's a forum I regulate so banning me wasn't nice .. It only lasts a week but what annoys me is the way moderators work there. Some mods there ban you just for the sake of banning .. cause it's fun. For example, if you post anime you're sure to get a ban because the mods think anime is something sick <.<

And about the game .. The way I said it was that I bought the game from Amazon but it hasn't arrived yet so I dl'ed the game to try it and practice it in the meantime so I'll be ready for multiplayer. But apparently I got banned because I was trying to ask for '' help '' for a game that was pirated and that's supposedly not allowed. The only think I asked for '' help '' was how to change resolution because I didn't see 1920x1080 in the list and was wondering why <.<

[Kameruka]

As far as I know, "onii-chan" is a cuter call for older brother, especially from a younger sister. Did the sister still using it if she turn into wrinkly old ladies and her brother still live long enough?

I can't imagine Kirino( or any imouto-type girls of your choice) calling her brother as "onii-chan" when she is 80 and Kyousuke is 83.

Not to stereotype the Japanese people but the Japanese have longest average lifespan.

[Asuras]

Originally Posted by YoakeNoHikari

Ah...What exactly is the problem? Too many commas? Or is it not localized enough?

I suppose that, if you aren't very good at recognizing modifiers, 'twould be hard to read.

In other news, Baka Tsuki is a wiki and anybody is free to edit it. So, don't just push your problems down on the translators and editors, it's not their job, it's not their responsibility, it's their free will. If you think you know a better way of phrasing a sentence, by all means, change it. It's not like the translators are unable to change it back if they think it'll change the meaning of the sentence.

Then again, if you're too lazy to do so, there's no reason to expect the editors or translators to do it for you.

Hey now. No need to be accusatory. I didn't know that just anyone could join, despite being a wiki. I only assume there was some sort of rule on who could, given their status as a translator of Japanese texts (which, if you didn't know, I cannot do). Either way, I never said it was their duty, I only asked if there was a reason they didn't. But thanks for answering?

[Icy.Tear]

I'm still not sure what's wrong...If you don't tell me what's wrong, how do I fix it? You say that it's hard to understand, but I'm not sure why that is.

[Kotohono]

Originally Posted by Kameruka

As far as I know, "onii-chan" is a cuter call for older brother, especially from a younger sister. Did the sister still using it if she turn into wrinkly old ladies and her brother still live long enough?

I can't imagine Kirino( or any imouto-type girls of your choice) calling her brother as "onii-chan" when she is 80 and Kyousuke is 83.

Not to stereotype the Japanese people but the Japanese have longest average lifespan.

It would depend on how close of a relationship/bond they have still, I mean I've seen some characters do it or similar words to their siblings at ages of 30~40, so I mean it's possible.

[Asuras]

Originally Posted by YoakeNoHikari

I'm still not sure what's wrong...If you don't tell me what's wrong, how do I fix it? You say that it's hard to understand, but I'm not sure why that is.

Various reasons as to why I am sometimes confused by the writing:

If you want to ask what happened to Aria and Shirayuki, it’s obviously separated like light and darkness.

Shouldn't it be: "If you were to ask about what happened between Aria and Shirayuki, it is obvious they are seperated like light and darkness"

Reports, no, little affairs spread abnormally quickly

Even in context, I still have no idea what this is saying. Something along the lines of, "rumors spread quickly"?

As for the other one, Muto…his face showed that he wanted to ask something, but was difficult to say. Well, Muto’s face being weird is something normal anyway.

?

"As for the other boy, Muto; his face showed that he wanted to ask something, but it was difficult to say. Well, Muto's face is normally weird."

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Many of these sentences are so amalgamated with useless, sometimes confusing words. The strangeness of it detracts my attention. Could just be me. This is what confuses me. Why is it left translated like this? If I were to sign up, would I be allowed to edit it?

[Irenicus]

Originally Posted by Asuras

If I were to sign up, would I be allowed to edit it?

I'd say they would say yes. Why not?

I get the feeling Baka-Tsuki is always in desperate need of volunteers for all sorts of projects.

Although, I'd keep "anyway" in this sentence:

Originally Posted by Asuras

"As for the other boy, Muto; his face showed that he wanted to ask something, but it was difficult to say. Well, Muto's face is normally weird anyway."

...for example.

[Icy.Tear]

Funnily enough, I wasn't the one who translated any of those sentences.

The light and darkness I agree with.

The second sentence is: yes, 'little affairs' referring to small things that happen between the students.

The third sentence is missing a copule, the sentence after that just sounds weird, but it isn't inherently wrong.

At any rate, one will inevitably mess things up when translating, so yes, editors are needed.

[Asuras]

Well then great. Cause I'm going to start my run soon.

[Dragonar Fan]

Why are resin conversion kits so damn expensive? its like i have to cut off my fingers with a cigar clipper

[Akito Kinomoto]

Maybe this is explained somewhere in the rules, or maybe there's a sticky on this, or maybe it's just general practice for some reason, but...

Why do the names of every single anime/manga/whatever on this site always get bolded? The way I've seen things happen on this site, I don't imagine speed reading does well for any discussion. So why does everyone feel so...bold? <_<

[HasuMasu]

Many of these sentences are so amalgamated with useless, sometimes confusing words. The strangeness of it detracts my attention. Could just be me. This is what confuses me. Why is it left translated like this? If I were to sign up, would I be allowed to edit it?

i like the sentences you listed in their original form :/

[Kotohono]

Originally Posted by Akito_Kinomoto

Maybe this is explained somewhere in the rules, or maybe there's a sticky on this, or maybe it's just general practice for some reason, but...

Why do the names of every single anime/manga/whatever on this site always get bolded? The way I've seen things happen on this site, I don't imagine speed reading does well for any discussion. So why does everyone feel so...bold? <_<

if you're in the suggestion or general anime sub-forum, then it should make senses for the sake of drawing attention to different parts of the post and so they don't miss the title[this would be bad in the suggestion forum if they did ], since the threads are for specific criteria or elements of shows, though outside of those two sub-forums I can't say I see names get bolded often. Or maybe people just like putting [B ][ /B], without spaces, around the title for fun?

[HasuMasu]

oh, i have questions regarding anime

you see, when i first read about GOSICK, i kinda thought it would be like, a, um...hospital slice of life drama anime?

obviously that's not the case, so i was wondering

since i realized that well, i've never really seen an anime like that, so...

is there an anime like that?

[Dist]

Originally Posted by Da_Box

oh, i have questions regarding anime

you see, when i first read about GOSICK, i kinda thought it would be like, a, um...hospital slice of life drama anime?

obviously that's not the case, so i was wondering

since i realized that well, i've never really seen an anime like that, so...

is there an anime like that?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanbun_...ga_Noboru_Sora

[HasuMasu]

OH MY GOD IT DOES EXIST

thanks man, i feel like crying now

[SaintessHeart]

I have always been wondering, what do the Scots wear underneath their kilts? Do they go commando or do they wear something?

[naita *rain tsubaki*]

lol!!! as i know... nothing O.o