(L) Koi to Senkyo to Chocolate (Love, Election, and Chocolate)

[Marcus H.]

Why don't they just make their club worthwhile/useful.

Limited time. Probably by the time that they have finally made something worthwhile, Satsuki has already gone through the plan to wipeout the "worthless" clubs, Shokken included.

Plus, I feel that this concern with funding is a something suspicious, especially with bribes and underhanded tactics going around the school.

[Ashaman]

They apparently have enough time to enter and run in for student council.

They have at least one machine that makes sweets (I think)

How much time would it take to organize a bake sale or something along those lines.

2, 3 days?

They're the Contemporary Food Club, whatever that means.
Weather its selling, recommending, making or sampling food, as long as they can show that they've done something productive for themselves and more importantly the student body as a whole, they should be safe.

Once Finance girl becomes prez, they can say - This is what we've done, this is how much money we made, and this is our plan for next month. We are now productive.

Its much better than trying to become SCPrez; which is a long shot anyway, and even if Yuu wins he'll actually have to deal with SCP duties, meaning that his time in the club will massively drop.

I don't know - I think that I'm annoyed mostly because rather than make themselves useful, they'd rather work hard for a couple of days or weeks, only so that they can continue to laze about and eat sweets, even as one of their own gets saddled with all the work and responsibility.

And its not as though I can fault Finance girls plan to disband useless clubs, when so far the three examples we have are the Eat Sweets and Laze Around Club, the Model Making Club and whatever the hell that other girl does (Origami?)

And Marcus - I know there's shady back room stuff going on, but they don't. All they know is that one guy is giving away 100 yen to volley for votes.

[Khu]

Yay the OP is so nice!

[lansglenn]

Originally Posted by Ashaman

They apparently have enough time to enter and run in for student council.

They have at least one machine that makes sweets (I think)

How much time would it take to organize a bake sale or something along those lines.

2, 3 days?

They're the Contemporary Food Club, whatever that means.
Weather its selling, recommending, making or sampling food, as long as they can show that they've done something productive for themselves and more importantly the student body as a whole, they should be safe.

Once Finance girl becomes prez, they can say - This is what we've done, this is how much money we made, and this is our plan for next month. We are now productive.

Its much better than trying to become SCPrez; which is a long shot anyway, and even if Yuu wins he'll actually have to deal with SCP duties, meaning that his time in the club will massively drop.

I don't know - I think that I'm annoyed mostly because rather than make themselves useful, they'd rather work hard for a couple of days or weeks, only so that they can continue to laze about and eat sweets, even as one of their own gets saddled with all the work and responsibility.

And its not as though I can fault Finance girls plan to disband useless clubs, when so far the three examples we have are the Eat Sweets and Laze Around Club, the Model Making Club and whatever the hell that other girl does (Origami?)

And Marcus - I know there's shady back room stuff going on, but they don't. All they know is that one guy is giving away 100 yen to volley for votes.

Yea, but then it'd be too realistic and won't be as epic.

[Ashaman]

Originally Posted by lansglenn

Yea, but then it'd be too realistic and won't be as epic.

This is anime - you think they can't make bake sales epic?

[-Sho-]

Typical etc...... but at least better than Kono Naka.... for a first episode even with censorships.
It seems entertaining enough to watch , i'll give 3 more episodes.
And yeah , the art is mediocre compared to VN.

[blakstealth]

It's decent enough, even though I have only seen some pics here and there for the VN. Some characters (Hazuki and Satsuki) definitely got that Amagami SS-like look going on, so I don't mind. :P

[DragoonKain3]

Originally Posted by Ashaman

This is anime - you think they can't make bake sales epic?

IMO, it's a question of logic, but a question of the common sense these people have. I mean, we have the smarted one out of them all unintentionally leave the candy maker on for the night for crying out loud! How much more for thinking all those complicated stuff when they can just have a sacrificial lamb do their work for them?



@AmenoJaku

Spoiler for Beware! Go away if you have spoilerphobia:

First it's not a win when there is no competition to begin with (e.g. AnoHana, PenguinDrum).

On the same token, if there is no romantic interest (ie competition) from the childhood friend, I shouldn't count it as a loss. Examples include Natsuiro no Sunadoeki OVA and Ichigo 100%.

But no, I take those as losses BECAUSE I want to be fair with the criteria I set out.

1a) No childhood friends = anime does not count in the list
b) EVERY character are childhood friends, however major or minor = does not count

2a) 1 childhood friend is in the anime (even minor, not in the love competition, or heck, if only appeared for a split second) = does count
b) EVERY character are childhood friends except 1 (even minor) character is NOT a childhood friend = does count

What you're asking is for 2a to STILL count but 2b to NOT count, which is obviously a double standard.


Regardless, as I said, AnoHana has competition in the girl who gave Tsuruko the letter to give to cross dresser. On Penguin Drum, Yuri had sexual relations with the person who eventually shot Tabuki. Just for the record, you know?

Second, implying a win is subjective at best.

And what I'm saying is EVEN if you take out implied wins AND implied losses (you can't just IGNORE implied wins and COUNT implied losses)...

That is, if you ONLY count the anime where the ending was 100% definitive and conclusive, the ratio of childhood friends winning in anime will still be over 50% over a certain time period.

The few examples of conclusive anime that come to my mind are:

I think you're getting stuffed mixed up, as some of the following from your list is not as conclusive as you claim them to be...

Mai HIME - ONLY an implied win. Tate never officially went out with Mai in the anime proper, as the anime ended before anything happened. I personally count it as a loss, but if you don't like implied wins then you gotta out implied loss, am i right?

In True Tears, Ai lost - but Hiromi also knew the protagonist since childhood (elementary school in fact), and she WON

In DenYuuDen, Milk never had a fighting chance with Reiner - but again, it is ONLY implied that they will not get together, as Reiner's leading LIs are the blonde swordsmaster and the traitor in the prologue. As such, since no definitive conclusion YET, this should NOT count as a loss according to you

Manami of OreImou is out of the picture already - the ONLY one out of the picture is HanaKana's character, if you know what I mean. The rest is pretty much up for grabs, but I say the seeds are being sown there for Manami. But hey, since there is no conclusive couple for the time being, we need to count this as a draw right?

Athena is also out of the picture in Hayate no Gotoku! - she hasn't even appeared in the anime proper yet and we're already counting her? (for the record I only made the claim about ANIME and not manga) Heck, Hayate hasn't chosen anybody yet, so it definitely NOT conclusive

(and that's not going in to the fact that Athena still made Hayate blush during the dream, but that's not what I'm arguing about so I'm going to leave it at that)


So that leaves 4 losses (Shuffle, Seto no Hanayome, UFO Valkyrie, and Kannazuki no Miko) as losses vs those three you mentioned as wins plus True Tears. But since we're now obviously talking about over a large span of time (outside of 2011), how about we extend the list to anime from year 2000 and on?

With that, it's pretty trivial to prove over 50% win rate if that's all the losses you're gonna give. How about I give examples such as say, Mahoraba? Or how about I be generous and give you Mai HIME as a loss, but I can just name DNAngel as win to counteract that loss.

Heck, I'm gonna one up you and also mention Wind: a Breath of Heart, Hani Hani, Kakyuusei 2, Gankutsuou, and my personal favourite, KimiKiss as CONCLUSIVE and DEFINITIVE wins.

In fact, I am 100% confident that I can always name one definitive win in anime more than the number of definitive losses you can muster (hint: click on the statistics link in my sig if you don't think I did my homework; sure it has implied counted, but it's pretty trivial for me to weed out only the ones that ended definitively and I need an excuse to update it up to 2011).

[Miraluka]

[Candyshark]

Chūni-byō Demo Koi Shitai!

Chisato does not seem to be impressed by imposter:P.

[Reckoner]

Wow.

I knew this was going to have so-so visuals since it was a branch of AIC and AIC never really provides nice visuals, but I never expected the story to be this revolting.

I remember when I watching NGE episode 26 once in my life and it had that 4th wall breaking moment when it featured an alternate reality of the characters, one where there was a cliche harem moment between two of the characters Asuka and Shinji. Basically what happened in that opening scene in the bed was the exact same thing that happened here and I cannot help but be aggrieved here. This is the exact thing that has been criticized for over a decade.

Talk about perpetrating the stereotype. It feels like some stories will never get better than these sort of cliches.

If it was just this one scene that seemed to do this it wouldn't really be worth complaining about, but the entire episode was chock full of the usual harem bull that I was severely unimpressed by the whole spectacle. There is no shred of individual identity in this show so far. The characters are stock, and the main character is your typical harem lead.

A waste of good char designs I would say.

There was literally no redeeming features about this episode. If it doesn't shape up next episode, I'll consider it an instant drop. Hopefully it becomes less generic and the cast stops being so annoying because this was quite awful.

[Iron Maw]

Originally Posted by Ashaman

So, to protect their club from the finance advisor becoming presidant and cutting all worthless clubs, they decide to make one of their own president?

Why don't they just make their club worthwhile/useful.

Start selling some of those sweets that they make or something.

Yeah, honestly this part of the plot has always bugged me.

Their Club Adviser even admits that the Food Club is just hang-out spot for the group to eat and drink with the funds. In the most rational and practical point of view Satsuki isn't doing anything wrong at all by getting rid of it. If Ooshima does run and win the election he should seriously consider how make it a bit more productive.

At this point there is no real reason for it to exist.

[blakstealth]

Maybe everyone there is just a bunch of a-holes that don't really wanna share any of their goods.

[Marcus H.]

Well, they say "merit".
Define "merit".
Their definition of merit is probably "fame", "prestige" or "profitability" for all we know.

In any case, any niche clubs would eventually be scrapped for being "not famous", "lacking prestige" or is "unprofitable".

Besides, they can host a sweets festival all day long and they'll still get scrapped.

[molitar]

Well I will have to wait to see if it comes out in BD or DVD format before I watch this censored massacre of a show! If they are going to censor put some damn thought into it a box drawn in front on the floor after all they are in a classroom something besides the cop out method that they used here where a quarter of the entire screen was blurred out. I can't stand cop out censorship that means they don't care about the damn production or they would draw on object in the way something that shows they care about the damn show.

[DragoZERO]

It was a fun first episode. Definitely not enough to make a decision on whether or not to watch though.

And the censoring is painful. Yikes.

[NoemiChan]

Originally Posted by DragoZERO

It was a fun first episode. Definitely not enough to make a decision on whether or not to watch though.

And the censoring is painful. Yikes.

That was the disappointing part.

[Midonin]

It was one relatively short scene in a full 23-minute episode. Does it really affect one's enjoyment of things that much?

[NoemiChan]

Originally Posted by Midonin

It was one relatively short scene in a full 23-minute episode. Does it really affect one's enjoyment of things that much?

Its the strawberry in a strawberry cake. No matter how strawberry flavored it is... but without the real strawberry... its still a plain strawberry flavored cake...

[Nvis]

Artwork is bad.
Story is bad.

OP is GOOD!