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Signum, I have no problem believeing she could do it. Zafira, if he's ever strong enough Vita, hard to tell, maybe if it's to save someone... Chrono, He doesn't seem to be the type that will hesitate if it needs to. EDIT: @raidou Hence I said 'perharps'. @Meophist There's probably enough angst going around with Subaru's mother's death, Teana's brother's death and Eilo being in a 'research' facility.
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2007-04-04, 21:08 | Link #102 | ||
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Edit: @Chaos2Frozen yeah sorry my wording suck, I was actually asking whether he is dead or alive if anyone know |
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2007-04-04, 21:20 | Link #103 | |
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2007-04-04, 21:49 | Link #105 |
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Regarding 'Evil' villains and character deaths...
I think its not so much 'evilness' that is is required, so much as a villain who does not turn out to be a sweet litte girl who, in the end, just wants to be friends. Instead, someone who has opposing goals and sticks to them, to the dire end. Maybe they are killed, imprisoned, maybe the flee and go into hiding, defeated. Just not another new friend. And character deaths - it's not that they are needed to progress the plot, or whatever, its just that with all this high powered magical combat, it is incredible NO ONE HAS DIED YET. People keep getting saved by the 'reduced to 1 hit point' rule. In actual armed combat, if you are truly fighting for your life, it can be quite hard to not kill your opponent. Having everyone survive combat time after time is a little contrived, and takes the drama out of it. After all, what is the price of failure? You end up on the floor very tired, and need to spend a few days in bed. Boo-hoo. |
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2007-04-04, 21:59 | Link #109 |
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Do we really need to stereotype the "evil" villians to those of the lamest proportions? History has shown that bad guys don't have to be "morally ambigious" and be "iredeemably evil" with some sort of lame uber sad past that drives their motivations to be great villians. Besides, evil doesn't neccesarily mean lame reasons to doing so. We don't need bullshit like taking over the world and stuff to make villians evil.
Dio Brando didn't need some sad uber past and a morally ambigious reason to become what is literally JoJo franchise's poster boy. All he needed was charisma, and an ego-complex since to him, humans are like loafs of bread for breakfast. Hadlar didn't need to be remotely good. He just had tons of pride and a sense of a knight's honour in how he do his evil things. The recent Neuro chapter highlighted my point perfectly. One of the villains said this " You know how villians in stories and movies nowadays aren't really all that evil...They all seem to have some sort of sad reason blah blah blah stuff." Good writing can easily make evil villians shine.
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2007-04-04, 22:01 | Link #110 | |
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To have no morals... that means the deed was done on... Instinct? Self gain?
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Edit: like what nightengale said , although i only recognize 4 of those Last edited by raidou; 2007-04-04 at 22:20. |
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But for me, the only recent 'good/likable' evil villians I've seen is The Earl from DGM and of course, Light. Both are evil, but they're not boring, and definitely not stupid.
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2007-04-04, 22:24 | Link #115 | |
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2007-04-04, 22:29 | Link #117 | |
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EDIT: IF you watched code geass, refer to episode 22.
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2007-04-04, 22:45 | Link #119 |
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So, what you're all really looking for is a Char Aznable or a Magneto (X-Men comics version) - someone who doesn't see THEMSELVES as a villain, but rather as the only person who sees what is necessary and is willing to do it, even if it means taking the responsibility for making the "hard decisions" that the more idealistic, soft hearted "heroes" can't?
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Also, morals primarily come from a sense of empathy - to be able to feel what another feels. If watching someone suffer causes you distress or discomfort, you cannot be truly amoral. Another prime category for amoral people is - everyone's favourite - psychopaths and sociopaths. Keep in mind, these people do not have to be murderers, most live out fairly normal lives. It just means things like compassion and other people's feelings to not factor into their decision making - not because they are cruel or sadistic, but because they don't really understand what those feelings are. Instead, they ape the behaviour of people around them - and are often very good at 'faking' morals or emotions. Psychopaths thrive in competitive office politics environments - there have been some great articles and documentaries about it. Of course, hollywood movie psychopaths are always sadistic murderers, but that's not a realistic (or fair) portrayal. Last edited by BatAttack; 2007-04-05 at 00:02. |
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