2010-07-11, 19:30 | Link #2181 |
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Wow I actually found this episode pretty funny in a weird way. Krillin is hilarious at the beginning with his cowardice, especially when 17 points him out. Then the androids themselves are pretty funny too, a trait I didn't grasp when I was younger. You have to feel bad for Trunks though, this is probably Vegeta's low point of the series.
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2010-07-11, 20:18 | Link #2182 | |
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2010-07-11, 20:43 | Link #2183 | |
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was stated back in DBZ, but not mentioned in Kai? |
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2010-07-11, 22:26 | Link #2184 | |
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I think 17 was just playing around with him, and it was only there for the comedy of Krillin's reaction. Not sure though. |
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2010-07-12, 01:09 | Link #2185 |
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Great episode that set things up for the beatdown next week perfectly.
Seeing it reminded me of how great a team 16, 17 and 18 were. They just have this inherent cool and laidback attitude to them that does not feel forced at all and makes their interactions quite entertaining. Which just makes me feel sad knowing their impending fate, but oh well. And yeah, I agree this is Vegeta's low point. In the Freeza saga, he mostly knew to respect the power of his opponents and not blow his out of proportion, as seen against the Ginyu Tokusentai and Freeza, but now that he's become a SSJ, the power clearly went to his head and he sees himself as invincible. Oh well, he's definitely in for a rude awakening next week (too bad he'll end up making the same mistake again against Cell, augh). And man I must say 17 and 18 were mighty creepy when they woke up and were pretending to follow Gero's orders. That whole lab scene was great stuff. |
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Very glad that 17 and 18 are voiced by they original voices, because they fit oh so well. & it's always a treat to hear Itou Miki's devilish voice, especially at the end when 18 was talking to Vegeta. Next weeks episode shall also be quite the treat as well. It's a shame 16 is still voiced by Midorikawa Hikaru (he also voices Tenshinhan), though it is a voice that fits his calm character perfectly, so at the same time i'm glad. & that's the good old Kai preview that i know, spoiling everything.
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2010-07-12, 05:41 | Link #2187 | |
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Only activated for a short time and 17 already realized Krillin's only there for comic relief .
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2010-07-12, 15:05 | Link #2189 | ||
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Plus we see right after how little Trunks still means to Vegeta at this point when he punches him in the gut. And there're still more beatings to come, poor Trunks. |
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2010-07-12, 15:14 | Link #2190 |
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Saw the raw and during the episode, I kept hearing them mentioning 'types' and wondering what they were talking about. Also, it's something thats been bugging me but were 17 & 18 originally human turned android? (Like Gero?) And who exactly is 16 and why was his activation feared by Gero? (And once again, was he originally human or not?)
Stuff that I've always been wondering. I can't recall anything from the dub I saw years ago (also missed the second half and beyond of the Cell arc) |
2010-07-12, 15:27 | Link #2191 | |
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As for why Gero was so afraid of #16... Dunno. I'm pretty sure it was never explained.
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Though it seems he understimated his own work since #16 was by far the most subservient and dedicated to his mission of all his artificial humans. |
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2010-07-12, 16:48 | Link #2194 | |
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2010-07-12, 21:10 | Link #2196 | |
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2010-07-12, 21:50 | Link #2197 | |
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Well for one thing he doesn't listen to orders. Rather, he becomes detrimental to Gero's ultimate plan (Cell) and never really fights Goku as designed. |
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2010-07-12, 21:53 | Link #2198 |
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The two aren't comparable at all. Goku knew how strong Cell would be after the sensu bean, since he'd fought him at full power before. Vegeta had no way in hell of knowing how strong Cell would get after becoming absorbing 18 yet he never even considered the possibility that his own power wouldn't be enough to handle it.
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