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2013-06-29, 19:33 | Link #2042 |
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This is what I'm most curious about. What were the hours alike? Did people tend to arrive/leave in waves, or all at once? Were there any rituals like a morning greeting with all the staff? (Wondering how an animation studio is similar to / different from your average Japanese company office.)
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Everyone tended to be in by 9am and when I would leave the office at 8pm-9pm most of the studio was still working away. My favorite meetings I was invited to were when the studio finished an episode of "Inu Yasha" everyone would gather in a room and watch the final product together on a projector. The director and leads would say their comments and everyone would enjoy the accomplishments. It felt like a family.
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2013-07-01, 05:54 | Link #2044 |
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Whoa direct interaction with a KyoAni insider. Truly an honour Hope you enjoy our little corner of the internet here. Warm greetings and welcome to Animesuki!
- From your visit a year ago, how much has changed since your time there as an intern? - Could you elaborate more on the KyoAni philosophy if possible? - Which KyoAni work would you consider to be your favourite? Much appreciation for both sharing your KyoAni experiences with us and taking time to answer our questions too. Many, many thanks!
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2013-07-01, 20:01 | Link #2045 | |
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That's great you're still in contact. Did you see again Tomoe Aratani since she's still in Kyoto (Nintendo) ? I'm looking forward to reading your post about her.
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2013-07-26, 08:04 | Link #2046 |
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So with KyoAni's now into uncharted territories with Free and on the verge of it becoming another hit for them, there a couple thoughts that came up in my head.
Will KyoAni's other staff take notice on Free so they could apply: 1.) The girl character design for Gou into any future works involving a mostly female cast? Seriously, it's been awhile (probably since Hyouka with Irisu though Shinka and Touka from Chuu2 are close) since I've been enamored over a female character, and I'm jealous she's there in show that's clearly aimed for girls. 2.) The campy fanservice shots on the guys and use it on the girls in a future work that's most appropriate. Obviously the girls' agency has to be maintained or else it'll look creepy and be like those other trashy ecchi shows aimed for men. And out of curiosity, considering as of late KyoAni are branching out their LN label, does anyone know if any of their "honorary mentioned" titles has premises that has "legit fanservice" opportunities on girls like sport stories about a girls' gymnastics team, high diving, Latin dancing, or cheerleading?
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2013-07-26, 14:41 | Link #2048 |
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The level of fanservice in Free is beyond typical KyoAni imho.
K-On was a lot more pure than Free. Maybe I notice fanservice on guys more because I'm not used to it, but general consensus seems to be that Free has fanservice and K-On just has adorable. |
2013-07-26, 15:12 | Link #2049 |
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The first season of K-On! had some fanservice here and there. Free has more, but it's not overwhelming in either of these shows.
I agree it's not uncharted territory. The method of execution is extremely similar to K-On! The most interesting part in Free! is the treatment of water, especially since Utsumi stated that they have a dedicated team just for that. Of course, for people who don't care about these things it's little more than a gimmick, but I'd say it's healthy for the animators to hone their skills at doing water and FX. You can see there's a lot of ground to improve- look at Rei falling to the pool in episode 3 and the splash, it's pretty rough. Kyoukai no Kanata might be closer to "unexplored territory" depending on how heavy it gets with the action and gore. From the outside it just seems like a generic action LN, but it's not the type of thing the studio has been doing, the last of this kind was FMP: TSR, 8 years ago. I'm certainly looking forward to that much more than the movie and S2 of Chuu2, especially if they're really going to let Ishidate direct and Chise Kamoi be chief sakkan. |
2013-07-26, 16:02 | Link #2050 | |
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This is why I hope some of the other KyoAni staff take notice of how they applied the fanservice of the guys in Free and use it on female main characters in some undisclosed title. I'm getting a feeling that Free will be starting to become a pioneer on the playful manly physique fanservice, and it'll great for KyoAni does the same in reinvigorating the womanly features of a female while still being playful and not creepy.
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2013-07-26, 17:14 | Link #2051 | |
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2013-07-26, 17:48 | Link #2052 | |
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Free's characters need more bulge to really compete with Mikura though. Just my heterosexual 5 cents. |
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2013-07-26, 22:02 | Link #2053 | |
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So yeah, KyoAni. What ever you next project will be, please have it star female characters with a premise that's allows them to be sexy and maintain credibility.
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2013-07-26, 22:35 | Link #2054 |
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I always found it that Kyoani animes have great male characters like Sousuke, Kyon and Oreki if you ignore their comic relief side characters (*cough Sunohara*), but have very one dimensional, archtype-centric female characters designed to appeal to certain crowds. Although it's not solely a Kyoani problem since it's pretty much everywhere particularly in this light novel adaption plague we are in at the moment, it is very annoying.
But at least Kyoani has the male characters right most of the time, unlike the innumerable number of spineless, oblivious harem male leads we have as of late. Last edited by Pocari_Sweat; 2013-07-27 at 00:35. |
2013-07-26, 23:58 | Link #2055 |
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With regards to "sexy female characters that had agency". They already kinda did that with TSR... an anime ahead of its time. Although to be fair, it is an adaptation, so it might be more due to its source material than boardroom decision making.
Just wish it didn't bombed... Natch.
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2013-07-27, 15:54 | Link #2056 | |
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2013-07-27, 16:16 | Link #2057 | |
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There's nothing wrong with "appealing to otaku" other than the fact that it clearly bothers you, an otaku, ever so much, it would seem. |
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2013-07-27, 17:12 | Link #2058 | |
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Tell me, Kaisos Erranon, what recent Kyoto Animation work would you say exceeded your expectations of what anime can accomplish? A person I knew once said she is not an anime fan, even though she watched a lot of anime. She said this because she couldn't take the moe stuff, the harems, the ever repeating stories and themes in certain genres. But she certainly loved anime as a concept. I guess being an "otaku" has its limits too. |
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2013-07-27, 17:59 | Link #2059 | ||
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Nichijou on the other hand, while not creative in the same way due to being tied down to an already visual source, has some of the best animation I've ever seen in a TV series -- and no, before anyone gets confused, art and animation are not the same thing. You may have felt that these series were "unsatisfactory" because... because why, exactly? Because you feel KyoAni is "wasting its time" with school-life settings and """"moe"""" characters? Tell her to watch other stuff...? There is other stuff, you know, unless you think that "moe" means "anime that has girls in it", like a lot of idiots seem to. |
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2013-07-27, 18:18 | Link #2060 |
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I don't see what major difference there is between catering to "otaku" and catering to any other audience, like say, making child shows. It generally boils down to otaku being a questionable audience in moral terms, but I don't see how that isn't a sweeping generalization, or how that necessarily has to bring down the quality of the works made by anyone. A good show stands on its own merits, regardless of the context in which it was produced.
@cyth, I also want to know your reasoning for thinking Hyouka, Nichijou and even K-On!! are unsatisfactory. I hope you have at least a compelling argument about the quality of these works. |
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