2020-10-25, 00:39 | Link #161 | |
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We also don't know what was Rika doing behind the scene for the entire arc.
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2020-10-25, 10:35 | Link #162 | |
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As for the levels, I managed to find a spot that lists them. Spoiler for Levels:
Anyway, I am certainly curious just what Rika's been doing this time around. I look forward to finding out just why the clinic's shut down. I do agree the most likely scenario is that Rika warned someone about Takano and she and the clinic as a whole were shut down. If that's the case this time they're not going to have to fight her and her plan, but Tokyo and their plans to control the situation. |
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2020-10-25, 13:03 | Link #163 | |
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2020-10-25, 15:02 | Link #164 |
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I thought Satoko's parents took them out, maybe not crazy far but a bit away, after the fallout when they accepted the deal to move. And Keiichi left for something like a week or something at the very start didn't he? At the very least the researchers never showed any surprise about the syndrome becoming active despite maintaining this theory that it only activates following departure. In particular Satoko, who's had the condition for a long time and been under surveillance for a while. If she'd never left the village that would've raised serious doubts about the theory and as a result would've threatened the entire operation.
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2020-10-26, 09:41 | Link #166 | |
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Keiichi for example left the the village to go to the nearest town with Oishi. Note that this has happened before his paranoia regarding Rena actually started. Well truth to be told, both Rena and Mion kinda reaped what they have sown in Keiichi's Stage 5 Shard. But that's a minor detail.
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2020-10-26, 14:35 | Link #167 | |
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2020-10-27, 12:13 | Link #168 | |
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So you can't even say that there's a probability higher than 50% that leaving Hinamizawa will lead to HS. We simply don't have enough evidence to claim the few cases we know were triggered by people leaving Hinamizawa, it could just be coincidence, just like the first cases that started the whole Oyashiro's curse myth were nothing but coincidences.
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2020-10-27, 13:27 | Link #169 | |
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2020-10-27, 19:30 | Link #171 | |
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2020-10-28, 07:53 | Link #172 |
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Okay I was a little behind on watching episode 4 but let me see if I got this straight...
Rika thought she was reliving Onikakushi-hen and focused on helping Keiichi get over his paranoia, but the events of Tsumihoroboshi-hen were happening in the background (as suggested by Rena's words last episode), unaware to everyone else. And since no one knew, no one was able to keep Rena from going Level 5.
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2020-10-28, 16:05 | Link #173 |
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One other thing, a very unfortunate consequence of whatever Rika did to stop Takano which just occurred to me. Since the Irie clinic was completely shut down, Satoko can't get treatments anymore. She became a regular at the clinic to test out treatments due to the fact that she'd made it to the final or near-final stages of the syndrome. Without those treatments she'll relapse quickly. I suspect that's what happened to her and Rika: the drug finally wore off and she had a psychotic fit, killing Rika before either killing herself in remorse or turning the knife on herself in a panicked reaction to the formication.
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2020-10-29, 19:11 | Link #175 |
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Rika is still trying, but there are some unexpected changes. The Shion in all the scenes except the final one was obviously Mion. No reason for Shion to get this flustered over everything Keiichi says. Not to mention, very different behavior. Not sure where this is going to lead, but I'm interested.
Was the scene where Keiichi wondered what Rena was really like on the inside in the original too?
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At any rate the main problem I see is that there isn't really a logical explanation as to why leaving Hinamizawa would bring someone to L2. Something so strange should have warranted an explanation, but none was given other than the Queen theory, which was proven wrong. Regarding the latest episode, it seems that we are still getting something that could be easily mistaken for a remake. There were really very few new scenes. This wasn't even the first time Keiichi gave the doll to Mion, it happened in minagoroshi already. I expected to see some more dialogue between Rika and Hanyuu. I wonder where this is all going. By the way, I completely forgot why K1 not giving the doll to Mion triggers HS in Shion.
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2020-10-30, 02:30 | Link #177 |
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If Keiichi didn't give the doll to Mion, the latter would complain to Shion how unfair it is since Rena already got something etc.
This subsequently made Shion remembers her bitterness and jealousy towards Mion because the former lost everything while Mion still has a shot in love and whatnot. And I assume it also made Shion resent her even more since Shion is supposed to be "Mion" to begin with.
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And in-universe that's even worse because one twin is a lot more batshit crazy than the other by orders of magnitude (though not necessarily her fault), but the other characters don't know that.
That being said, while it's likely that Rika identified this shard to be similar to that of Watanagashi-hen, does she actually know which one of the twins they were with that she ended up convincing Keiichi to give the twin the doll? I mean one of the triggers in in Watanagashi-hen was Shion as Mion not getting the doll from Keiichi. I assume Rika convinced Keiichi to give the twin the doll to prevent this (and thus have something like a Minagoroshi-hen outcome?), but if this twin is actually Mion in this shard (and I agree with Kanon that this is probably Mion in this shard), then Shion will eventually see and learn that the doll came from Keiichi, and this has a high chance of triggering Shion again. If this stands true, then Rika just made a DEADLY mistake.
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