2008-09-22, 09:56 | Link #3041 | |
Kalulu YES WE CAN
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I see your point. But you see this is where i disagree. Is that people can still disagree with the action of belief's imposed on them. For instance the government makes Alcohol illegal. They are trying to control us. But they fail because Alcohol still comes through. Lelouch's GEass on the other had makes it happen. If lelouch said Don't drink Alcohol. its end of story. What i find it ironic is that Lelouch is fighting his own geass. He wants people to have choice and choose the right one. Yet he is using a power that denies choice. |
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2008-09-22, 10:00 | Link #3042 | |
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People don't do only white and black things. Lelouch did many wrong things but saved the world two times in a row. And the geass can be sometimes overcome, nunnaly proves it, Suzaku too (against bismark when his geass said to him to flee) |
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2008-09-22, 10:04 | Link #3043 | |
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2008-09-22, 10:04 | Link #3044 | |
Kalulu YES WE CAN
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Just like i find Kallen loving the Emperor of brittinian even though she hated brittinian ironic. In the End Lelouch is not some shining white knight. Instead he is full of grey. He not some shining knight. He has done too much evil. Has he done it from good reason's. Sure but in the end i cannot agree with him. |
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2008-09-22, 10:07 | Link #3046 | |
Kalulu YES WE CAN
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That much further makes it evil. the Criminal in your case can still struggle and try to get away. It is not total denial of will. |
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2008-09-22, 10:07 | Link #3047 | |
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Well, I don't agree with having to use people against their will. This is evil. But it's hard to judge someone like lelouch who did that.......... but saved the world. After what he said to schneizel, I really wonder what is ZR |
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2008-09-22, 10:12 | Link #3048 |
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I guess we have reached an impasse. It should not be just that it takes it farther that makes it evil, it should be how that power is used that determines it's value. Power does not have cognitive thought, nor can impose an action upon one wielding it. Ultimately it is the choices we make that determines that.
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2008-09-22, 10:13 | Link #3049 | |
Kalulu YES WE CAN
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He could have been honest from day one. But at las that did not happen. as for ZR? really you don't get it? I link you my post i did 3 weeks ago i am pretty confindent. It makes even more sense now. |
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2008-09-22, 10:16 | Link #3050 | |
Kalulu YES WE CAN
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I was going to make some witty answer but i agree with most of your analysis that is hard to argue against you lol. Because i agree with General power your assessment is correct. But i can not agree with total denial of will. |
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2008-09-22, 10:16 | Link #3051 |
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It would be pointless for him to have some fluffy Geass from the storytelling prospective. For example, for him to have C.C.'s 'Love' Geass. That would entirely destroy his antagonistic anti-hero image witch essentially was so magnetic about him from the start.
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2008-09-22, 11:00 | Link #3053 |
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Arggh, I'm going to say this straight out Wit, power is not evil, it is the use of power that dictates whether or not it is evil. As others have brought up beforehand, one could take into case law, policy, or even war for that matter. With Geass Lelouch has accomplished much, yes he has faltered on some occasions with it, but overall as he said it was his responsibility. There is nothing inherently evil, least of all in this series after Nina, Rolo, hell Charles and Schneizel have managed to work in their portrayal. <_<
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2008-09-22, 11:07 | Link #3054 | |
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First he saved 6 billion people from being turned into pools of tang. Then he saved another 2 billion from being reduced to less than atoms. Saving that many people affords him a little slack. |
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2008-09-22, 11:12 | Link #3056 | |
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Lets just say in this cruel whole. You cannot do things 100% out of honesty anymore. There is no such thing. This is how the whole world, society is shaped. It just does not work LIKE THAT. Sometimes when do you GOOD, there are people who will oppose it. Strange but true. Why do you think most politicians in the world are not exactly very honest? And being dishonest with 10 people can save 2 billions to 5 billions people.. I don't see how cruel is that.
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2008-09-22, 11:13 | Link #3057 | |
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C.C. does not have to die, but her code has to cease to exist. It has to be removed if the future is ever going to be what Lelouch wants -> better than the present. |
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2008-09-22, 11:17 | Link #3059 | |
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I agree. I somehow believe that the end of Code Geass... it will be the end of the Geass curse once and for all. I think that would bring a meaning to the show.
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