2012-07-18, 09:49 | Link #1085 |
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Toradora wasn't what I was thinking of. That was a single two cour anime rather than a multi-cour anime (potentially split into three or more seasons) based on material that is not finished before the first season ends.
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2012-07-18, 09:55 | Link #1087 |
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Hahaha. I don't come to the thread here for 3 months and whining that Kyoani is not adapting/JC is adapting is still here.
Little Busters AS Thread = Endless Eight The Thread . Back to serious mode. The main thing I'm worried about in regards to JC Staff adapting LB is production values. That's the main thing I see with production studios - they determine the production values (aka visuals, music, general "polish" on presentation). In terms of writing, characters and plot that's more up to the directors, series composer and music composer me thinks and it's been announced that their "A-team" will be working on it. Now, JC is a big studio and their quality varies and it's been noted that their "A-team" will be working on it. Still, even A-team JC Staff visuals are not really "top-tier". I guess though that their background art is really nice. For example, I heard that PA Works outsourced Hanasaku Iroha backgrounds to JC Staff. Not as optimistic about character designs and animation frames though. JC does have some consistency issues when it comes to visual quality. Sometimes they are great like Raildex or Shana... other times it's an absolute shocker like in Bakuman. Last edited by Pocari_Sweat; 2012-07-18 at 10:08. |
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I'm hardly the biggest KyoAni-lover on this site (I've had plenty of critical comments about them in recent months and years), but you're drastically downplaying the quality of their Key adaptation work, imo. They may not be downright infallible at it, but they're incredibly good at it. So, no, it's not "very possible" that another studio and development team could surpass them. I honestly think you're doing a real disservice to KyoAni in making it sound so easy to surpass them. It's not. It's very hard simply to match KyoAni (when it comes to good adaptation work), let alone surpass them. The initial reaction to JC Staff handling Little Busters! was probably a bit too harsh and negative, but now it's starting to swing to the other extreme. We'll be fortunate (and I'll be pleased) if JC Staff does 90% as good a job with LB! as KyoAni did with Clannad. To think that more than that is "very possible" is people just setting themselves up to be disappointed, imo. Cautious and reasonable optimism is what's best here, imo. Not this pie in the sky "They'll surpass KyoAni!" thinking.
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2012-07-18, 10:11 | Link #1090 |
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Tempester will probably make himself clearer on what he means but we didn't interpret "very possible" the same way,I just took it as meaning "you never know,it could happen" (since he was replying to someone saying there was a 0% chance anyone else could match kyoani) rather than saying it's "very likely" like you seem to be interpreting it.
Afterall he started by saying "I'm not super-optimistic about this anime" so it's not like he has high expectations.
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2012-07-18, 10:12 | Link #1091 |
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I forgot after story wasn't aired after the main story.
Well I'm still hoping for a longer run of LB! that's the only good news I can get from JC staff. I'm hoping for a miracle but not really thinking their would be a miracle concerning this series and adaptation.
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But really, neither of these two directors seem suited for Key imo. It doesn't really fit their style. So I donno. That statement of "A-team" was based off a tweet by one of their producers a long time ago. It's on the earlier pages of this thread but I cbf finding it exactly . |
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Surpassing KyoAni when it comes to quality of adaptation work is no small matter. It's like a NBA player outperforming Michael Jordan in a NBA Finals game. It's possible, but it's also a pretty big deal, and should be treated as such, imo.
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To be fair, I have more optimism for JC adapting LB than Kyoani adpating Chūni-byō Demo Koi Shitai, given the premises and character designs for both. Or maybe it's my bias against romcoms with "loli-style" art in general since I have bad experiences with them . But who knows, Kyoani does have a tendency to grab very mediocre source material and turn them into something watchable and even something good at times. Hyouka for example, I had close to no expectations, but it's turning out to be pretty good .
Here, JC has gotten themselves the source material from the most accomplished VN franchise (alongside Type-Moon). Given the stakes atm, I'll take JC's LB over Kyoani's romcom adaptation for now . |
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Yeah, I probably should clarify here.
JC Staff's Little Busters! might end up better than KyoAni's Air or Kanon. It may even compete with Clannad, you never know. But if so, a lot of that might come down to different qualities between the various source materials. My point is just that KyoAni consistently gets the absolute most it can out of its adaptation work. It's choices of what to adapt can sometimes leave something to be desired, but you can be sure that their adaptation will do maximum justice to the source material.
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Weren't people criticizing Nagai a while back? I recall some negativity over Railgun. |
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2012-07-18, 11:05 | Link #1099 |
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A lot of the negative points of kyoani are automatically negated by our context ( a key animation), so eyah, whoever is expecting jc staff to do better than kyoani at adapting key work is setting him/herself up for dissapointment. I am expecting something around 80% or so of the quality, something with very inferior to kyoani but still above average animation, while the plot itself (pacing, events, etc..) can be as good or with some luck, slightly better than kyoani. the last pat mostly depends on they getting 2 or 3 coeurs and in teh case of getting 3, using them properly instead of the borefest filler that ruined several parts of shana.
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It's a sore thumb in his resume though (and I guess the first Idolmaster anime, which I've never seen). Honey and Clover S2, Toradora, Anohana and Ano Natsu were good, with the first three being big commercial and critical hits.
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