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View Poll Results: Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans - Episode 12 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 9 | 24.32% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 14 | 37.84% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 9 | 24.32% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 4 | 10.81% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 0 | 0% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 2.70% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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I feel the opposite. Technically and visually-speaking, the fights in G-Reco blows IBO's fights out of the water. But when it comes to emotional investment in each fight, IBO crushes G-Reco under its toe.
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2015-12-20, 09:43 | Link #22 | |
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Well to be fair, Masahiro doesnt consider any of those guys family. |
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2015-12-20, 09:58 | Link #23 | |
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also the noises from made by the engines differ from one to another, it depends what type of model you are using, several different types of engines don't make the same type of noises, & the ships making Helicopter like noises was only just my own opinion, somebody else might hear a totally different noise, like a motorboat or something. |
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2015-12-20, 10:48 | Link #25 |
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anyone else think Pedro might be what Masahiro's group's version of Orga? the one that unites the boys & would stand up against & escape their cruel superiors one day? but Mika somehow ruins that plan?
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2015-12-20, 11:19 | Link #27 | |
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Did I just watch an episode where the talking actually mattered? With exposition and strategy? And character development was actually quick and to the point without being draw out and boring? And the action took up almost half the episode? There actually might be hope for this! Now if only Masahiro didn't do his "naw man I don't want to be rescued okay I saved you while I got hamma'd" shtick this would have been fine.
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2015-12-20, 12:02 | Link #29 | |
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2015-12-20, 12:04 | Link #30 |
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Crap, those kids were in the same exact situation as Tekkadan before Orga saved them by coup. Seeing them all die miserably is just sad. And Masahiro, the way I see it is that he snapped, but he did push Akihiro out of the way.
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2015-12-20, 12:22 | Link #31 |
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Certainly a sad situation. In a sense these kids could have been fine if they had just turned on the pirates immediately. Though that's hardly a realistic situation considering what they've been through over the past few years and recently losing an ally. Instead just get wiped out by perhaps the one group in the entire solar system that could empathize with them and could have taken them in.
Sadly it's no wonder Masahiro went nuts. With how they lived....just how things go. One thing Akihiro had was time to change his mindset and be pushed in that direction in a relatively safe environment. Here was out in the middle of a battlefield and sadly not as much time for Masahiro to react well to it. Sadly the kid just snapped at the worst time. Though here's hoping Akihiro can live a life proving his brother wrong. Living and eventually passing away peacefully on the surface.
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2015-12-20, 13:06 | Link #32 |
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I enjoyed the tactics and combat. Nice setup of using the gravity from multiple Ahab reactors to create an interesting environment - good use of world building. It was also cute to see Mika studying while in the middle of a long range mission. I'm not surprised that the episode ended with a tragedy though.
Wish the writers would do something better with Kudelia. A bit more variety please! If they could at least do the following next episode: she helps prepare a funeral for those that died, including the human debris kids from Bewers and Kudelia sings a lament or something. |
2015-12-20, 13:24 | Link #34 |
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That was a really rough episode.
Most of it was preparation, but when it came down to it Tekkadan and the Turbines were more than enough to take down the Brewers. However, it came at a huge cost. Basically all the human debris kids died, including Masahiro, who had basically been mentally and emotionally destroyed by his life as a slave. Akihiro wanted to save him, but Masahiro couldn't take the idea of having any kind of hope again. And so he sacrificed himself, saving his brother. And it is really heavy on the heart. I don't believe in reincarnation, but I can hope that all those poor children who died are now at peace and at rest and that Orga and Mika puts the beat down on what's left of the Brewers.
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2015-12-20, 13:45 | Link #35 |
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i could have sworn the reincarnation talk almost sounds like a throwaway joke made to reference the Build Fighters universe, dead suffering people having happy lives everywhere!!...........
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2015-12-20, 13:57 | Link #36 | |
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2015-12-20, 13:58 | Link #37 |
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That was just sad. I didn't expect things would end in a clean and easy way but this was still pretty depressing. Those kids were just too broken by their lives as human debris to even hope. It is noteworthy that Masahiro pushed Akihiro put of the way in the end.
Now the only thing Tekkadan can do is avenge those kids and live a life that proves that it isn't wrong to cling to hope.
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What I really like about this series is how they can cause tension and danger and yet still subvert your expectations. I had thought it would be Akihiro and a few other named characters would die. But instead it was the one everyone was trying to save, and I think that made more impact than if it had been Akihiro or Norba, or one of Turbine girls. This show does extremely well at giving tension and emotional weight, without having to resort to simply killing named characters to get an emotional response.
Some shows fail at this. Prime examples are shows like Aldnoah or Captain Earth, where there was zero tension at all because there was no danger or even threat of consequences because everyone knew the heroes would win every time. In this series, the heroes DO win every time, and yet with expert story telling and characters development, I still feel the tension and the possible consequences and even the fear of death, even if the actual kill count is low to nil. Many I have read think you need to kill named characters to be emotionally effective, and that is quite true most of the time. But sometimes it also can be mishandled by just killing people for the sake of shock value and emotional manipulation. Here, I was able to gain emotional impact and hurt from the death of a character that we had only been introduced to a few episodes ago. I think it was the combination of his relationship with an actual named character and how much Masahiro meant to Akihiro. It was the fact that both Tekkadan and Turbines wanted to save him and were doing their best to do so. It was showing what a horrible life Masahiro and his fellow child slaves were enduring, that collectively made Masahiro's death that much more impactful. The realization that this is what could have happened to Tekkadan's men if they didn't form such a tight knit bond with each other and have such support between each other, with leaders who looked after the group. Masahiro couldn't take the idea of having hope again, his life as human debris destroyed him and it breaks your heart to see him choose death like that. This will really hurt Akihiro, but I think it will also give him purpose. He was already the leader of the Human Debris in Tekkadan, but I can see him expanding that and going on a campaign to help other Human Debris so that what happened to his brother won't happen to others. Quote:
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Masahiro has been out of his suit twice and the other boys we've seen out of their's once. All of them eat like they're starved, their bones are showing through their skin, and they have little to no muscle mass. It amazes me how they expected these kids to be good pilots when they hardly feed them anything.
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