Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans Episode 12 Discussion / Poll

[RRW]

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[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

My god, this episode. I just.....I can't.....

[B214]

Well the long coming deaths continues and this time it's more than 1.

[dragon1412]

I don't know what to say..... on 1 hand, i don't like Masahiro action and way of thinking but it understandable why he act like this. And **** KAdel and Gusion, Hope Mika and Barbatos sink it next ep. Better yet, let akihiro and Graze sink it

It seem like there is an Image of Alma crying in the next ep, so McGillis Sortie in the next ep ???

[Skye629]

Welp

That ended well -sarcasm-



I hope they dont destroy the Gusion next episode. I want it to run out of fuel, the good guys get a new gundam, and Akihiro gets to execute that bastard Kudal in person

[Stark700]

Well there goes Masahiro ....and pretty sure he's dead with the title of next week's episode. The action was nice but I really hope they give Aina a more credible role in future episodes. Mika is still impressive as ever in combat

[Tenzen12]

That was one epiv battle, to be honest I can't remember any other in this franchise that good. Masahiro dying was quite effective, more than killing someone named from tekkadan at this point.

And I really hope, Gusion will be either destroyed or sent to Teiwass, sure Eugen deserve MS to show more badassery than he can now (which is still plenty), but we don't need two Gundams now.

PS: where is poll, I can't give it 10/10 without it!

[Faux Mecha]

welp!! that escalated quickly, a touching reunion between two brothers suddenly goes disturbingly downhill, those pirates literally broke Masahiro's humanity.

[CelestialNocturne]

I gotta admit, the sound design in this show is impeccable; the melee blows from the Barbatos are especially satisfying to the ears.

[LightningZERO]

Considering how Masahiro was introduced and how quickly he was killed, I honestly felt nothing. It is so predictable that you just know the MS hugging scenes will end with someone dying.

I wish that they had focus more on Akihiro's hypocrisy, you know, telling about Masahiro he can have a new family while Mika killing his old "family"left and right. It is no surprise that Masahiro went crazy.

Mika is badass, but honestly at this point he's pretty bland and zero development. He stays the same character as the 1st episode while Orga getting lots of development and interactions. I hope that will change soon

[Faux Mecha]

Originally Posted by CelestialNocturne

I gotta admit, the sound design in this show is impeccable; the melee blows from the Barbatos are especially satisfying to the ears.

& i thought the ships' engine humming noises sounded like Helicopters.

[mweloo]

Originally Posted by LightningZERO

I wish that they had focus more on Akihiro's hypocrisy, you know, telling about Masahiro he can have a new family while Mika killing his old "family"left and right. It is no surprise that Masahiro went crazy.

Akihiro and the gang didn't know that the most of their opponents were kids who'd suffered as much as they had. If they knew, that would certainly haunt Akihiro, and by extension Orga and Mika. But that would open a new can of worms for the Tekkadan group, and would shake their resolve to engage in any kind of conflict at all.

(If IBO was three cours long instead of two, I'd be all for them exploring that particular conundrum. Alas, I guess some things have to simplified for the sake of time.)

I think Masahiro's dialogue implied pretty heavily that he wasn't as close to the other boys as it first seemed. It would be in line with his nihilistic way of thinking, to close himself off emotionally from the other boys who worked with him. If family for him consisted of only "Mum, Dad and [Akihiro]", it would stand to reason that he had no real emotional attachment to the others. In a way, that sets up a very interesting parallel between the brothers- Akihiro managed to outgrow his issues of considering Tekkadan family, Masahiro didn't. Why? Because Masahiro's group had no effective leader to unify them.

I have a feeling that they're saving an exploration of Mika's ruthlessness for the second half of the show.

Next ep: It appears that Orga and Kudelia are planning something together. And why is Almiria crying?

[blakstealth]

Those Human Debris kids did not stand a chance. Man, they all got destroyed. Akihiro will not be the same after this.

[Tchadnis]

i know some will hate what i am bout to say .. but can they make Kudelia any dumber ? and no im not being biased either , but so far as a "heroine" she doesnt have much credit yet .. Atra feel more like one then she is ...

[Pen3]

Originally Posted by LightningZERO

Mika is badass, but honestly at this point he's pretty bland and zero development. He stays the same character as the 1st episode while Orga getting lots of development and interactions. I hope that will change soon

We have had many complants of too much character development already and not enough mindless fighting. Perhaps they are just saving it for later so more people won't drop the show.

[Galaxian]

I'm sad to say, but action is definitely not IBO's forte. The series is still great, and its probably the best character-driven Gundam series I've seen, but it had to have a weakness and it seems to be in its actions.

The first couple of fights were good, but the last ones have been lacking in impact. So, while the action is still far better than stuff like G-Reco, it pales in comparison to the drama and characters presented in the show. Just sayin'.

Originally Posted by Tchadnis

i know some will hate what i am bout to say .. but can they make Kudelia any dumber ?

And did you know about ahab reactors producing gravity before this episode?

The fact that Fumitan apologized for not having informed her shows that it is not common knowledge.

[Pen3]

Originally Posted by Tchadnis

i know some will hate what i am bout to say .. but can they make Kudelia any dumber ?

Ok we see cars everyday, but ask your mom anything technical and i bet she would be as clueless compared to most men. These boys are also pilots and been around machines everyday. I am sure most things about machines are common sense to them compared to white collar workers and especially folks with servants and maids.

[frubam]

Originally Posted by LightningZERO

Mika is badass, but honestly at this point he's pretty bland and zero development. He stays the same character as the 1st episode while Orga getting lots of development and interactions. I hope that will change soon

Bah, I wouldn't expect it to =01. I believe I said the same thing long ago, but there's no way he'll change as long as he follows Orga. So far, in this story, Mika has basically never had to think for himself about where he's going or what to do, since Orga, or some other leader(orig CGS) has basically did that for him. When a reason comes that makes Orga defect(potentially either against Kudelia, or joining Gjallahorn), going against Mika in some way, then perhaps, we will see him develop as a character. I don't expect this to happen until at least they establish Kudelia as a notable/powerful presence on Earth.

Originally Posted by Galaxian

The first couple of fights were good, but the last ones have been lacking in impact. So, while the action is still far better than stuff like G-Reco, it pales in comparison to the drama and characters presented in the show. Just sayin'.

Nah, its easy to see the quality of fights have deteriorated since the Mika/McGillis fight. I don't mind it as much, but the choreography in this episode was definitely the worst the series has shown so far =0\.

[ReddyRedWolf]

Originally Posted by blakstealth

Those Human Debris kids did not stand a chance. Man, they all got destroyed. Akihiro will not be the same after this.

No shit they were malnourished. CGS boss is an asshole but he kept his soldiers fed and on tip top shape.

Sorry Akahiro but know that in the end Masahiro still considers you family.

So that is how artificial gravity is generated and why Ahab waves can be detected. Ahab reactors produce gravity.

Since Gjallarhorn is the only one allowed to produce them they have a scare resource monopoly.

We got that Ahab technology was one of the reasons for the Calamity War from Mcgillis and Galileo. So it could be an economic war that went out of control.

[Pen3]

One thing i noticed is that parts and supplies are very limited. The mobile suits are few per ship and are very valueable because the gap between a good and decent mobile suit isn't as huge. It isn't like fully upgraded Freedom that can destroy 1000 mass production mobile suits and not get a single scratch. Just look at Barbatos that got soo damaged that it couldn't perform well just after 1 duel and 2 small skirmishes. Maybe that is one of the reasons there are few battles in this series so far.