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MrProphet · 2006-06-01, 07:37

Live-Evil's old release of Utena was probably the only time EVER that I could say that a fansub (even based on a R2DVD source) looked better than the actual R1DVD. Because no matter how you slice it, 7 episodes per DVD is just too much.

To CPM's credit, their release of episode 14-39 (and the movie) were notably better and extremely appreciated. 8)

PS: BTW, according to ANN, CMP is still soliciting anime for August release. VOTOMS and Wrath of Ninja to be precise. It's probably a case of them having already finished work on these series, so I wouldn't be too optimistic. I doubt they'll be able to release anything else with a laid-off staff.

Access · 2006-06-01, 08:13

In the case of bankrupcy, aren't licensing deals generally nontransferable, ie. they cannot be sold / transfered to a debtor and instead revert back to nothing?

Also if the release is due in August, it could already be finished or mostly finished, essentially just waiting for it's scheduled release date.

StarCreator · 2006-06-01, 10:11

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Originally Posted by MrProphet

Live-Evil's old release of Utena was probably the only time EVER that I could say that a fansub (even based on a R2DVD source) looked better than the actual R1DVD. Because no matter how you slice it, 7 episodes per DVD is just too much.

The poor quality of the first two DVD collections amount to the fact that, at the time of their DVD release, it was very much a back catalogue title. The DVDs are little more than ports of the old work done for the original VHS release (thus the hardsubbed songs), to expand into what was then a new market. Thus, the high episode count collections with budget pricing.

I typically disqualify such releases as indicative of the company as a whole, since just about every company has done it to give some attention to their older properties. It just isn't a fair representation of a company's current work.

The rest of Utena, acquired much later, was treated as a brand new property.

guest · 2006-06-01, 21:06

When I think about R1 Utena, I was talking about mostly the translation. The quality is OK, that is, the images, audio, etc. It is the translation I found unstatisfied. They skip lines or change the meaning. Things like "I want to become a prince myself" becomes "I want to see him." This may be subtle but it is a signicficant part of the show because that is the entire concept right there. Utena does not just want to see her prince. She wants to become one herself. There are a lot more difference like this in the show. I care more about the originality in term of the show, instead of the "external" things, like good audio, good video quality,etc. That is just me.

StarCreator · 2006-06-02, 00:24

Translation is not an exact science, and without more concrete backing (like a time reference for the exact line in question), it is really hard to believe such a major error would exist, especially in the later arcs. Are you certain you're not misinterpreting the line yourself?

2006-06-01, 21:06	Link #24
guest guess Join Date: Nov 2003	When I think about R1 Utena, I was talking about mostly the translation. The quality is OK, that is, the images, audio, etc. It is the translation I found unstatisfied. They skip lines or change the meaning. Things like "I want to become a prince myself" becomes "I want to see him." This may be subtle but it is a signicficant part of the show because that is the entire concept right there. Utena does not just want to see her prince. She wants to become one herself. There are a lot more difference like this in the show. I care more about the originality in term of the show, instead of the "external" things, like good audio, good video quality,etc. That is just me. __________________

2006-06-02, 00:24	Link #25
StarCreator HnK founding lunatic Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Maryland, USA Age: 41	Translation is not an exact science, and without more concrete backing (like a time reference for the exact line in question), it is really hard to believe such a major error would exist, especially in the later arcs. Are you certain you're not misinterpreting the line yourself? __________________ * StarCreator * Hikari no Kiseki

2006-06-01, 07:37	Link #21
MrProphet The Commissar Vanishes Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Tallinn, Estonia Age: 41	Live-Evil's old release of Utena was probably the only time EVER that I could say that a fansub (even based on a R2DVD source) looked better than the actual R1DVD. Because no matter how you slice it, 7 episodes per DVD is just too much. To CPM's credit, their release of episode 14-39 (and the movie) were notably better and extremely appreciated. 8) PS: BTW, according to ANN, CMP is still soliciting anime for August release. VOTOMS and Wrath of Ninja to be precise. It's probably a case of them having already finished work on these series, so I wouldn't be too optimistic. I doubt they'll be able to release anything else with a laid-off staff.

2006-06-01, 08:13	Link #22
Access Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004	In the case of bankrupcy, aren't licensing deals generally nontransferable, ie. they cannot be sold / transfered to a debtor and instead revert back to nothing? Also if the release is due in August, it could already be finished or mostly finished, essentially just waiting for it's scheduled release date.