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Old 2011-08-05, 11:28   Link #81
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It's still better than tv though...
TV > anime as far as 2010/2011 goes.
no I disagree... for example TV has GLEE. ( sometimes personally I hate some of the songs they sing but... that stuff yo u can fastforward so it's all cool ) anime has nothign right now. well it's my opinion anyway. like I said 2006 had ouran, haruhi, welcome to the nhk, geass (the fun factor), sayonara zetsubou sensei, nana, death note. there's nothing that's near any of these animes in any level now-a-days so.... there's nothing worth watching.
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Old 2011-08-05, 12:09   Link #82
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Aye, 2006 (and 2007) were good years, but there's nothing stopping future years from being as good. And there's still a trickle of decent stuff coming out, occasionally. EG Tatami Galaxy last year was top notch.
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Old 2011-08-05, 12:20   Link #83
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TV > anime as far as 2010/2011 goes.
no I disagree... for example TV has GLEE. ( sometimes personally I hate some of the songs they sing but... that stuff yo u can fastforward so it's all cool ) anime has nothign right now. well it's my opinion anyway. like I said 2006 had ouran, haruhi, welcome to the nhk, geass (the fun factor), sayonara zetsubou sensei, nana, death note. there's nothing that's near any of these animes in any level now-a-days so.... there's nothing worth watching.
Hourou Musuko is better than all of the shows you listed. The ongoing Mawaru Penguindrum is even better, but only the first five episodes have aired to date. I do get how you feel though - if you watch too many bad shows, it can really color perceptions.
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Old 2011-08-06, 21:58   Link #84
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I miss the animes release during my elementary days......
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Old 2011-08-10, 13:08   Link #85
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As far as the factor of entertainment goes, anime is unlikely to stop being my hobby anytime soon. Over time I have only grown resilient to the negative side of it - fan service, recurrent annoying parts present in some genres - while on the other hand I've gotten, and learned, to like stuff I had never thought I'd like such as mecha and the unique type of humor (compared to the western culture). And even when I get a little fed up, I take a break and come back because I start missing those same elements that were starting to become annoying
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Old 2011-08-11, 07:43   Link #86
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anime has nothign right now. well it's my opinion anyway. like I said 2006 had ouran, haruhi, welcome to the nhk, geass (the fun factor), sayonara zetsubou sensei, nana, death note. there's nothing that's near any of these animes in any level now-a-days so.... there's nothing worth watching.
I'd love to know what you've tried watching recently because I have a hard time believing that out of Cross Game,Shiki,Madoka Magica,Level E,Steins gate,Ano Hana,Marawu Penguin Drum,Kaiji,Usagi Drop (and I'll stop here) there isn't one thing worth watching.
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Old 2011-08-11, 07:51   Link #87
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I'd love to know what you've tried watching recently because I have a hard time believing that out of Cross Game,Shiki,Madoka Magica,Level E,Steins gate,Ano Hana,Marawu Penguin Drum,Kaiji,Usagi Drop (and I'll stop here) there isn't one thing worth watching.
Also Nichijou, Hanasaku Iroha, Ikoku Meiro no Croisée, Steins;Gate...

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Old 2011-08-11, 16:17   Link #88
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I´m not sure if I´m growing out of it. But it appears to be a little hard for me to continue in the series that are still going today. Most of my favorite animes have finished and ended. I think what I don´t like about some of the newer ones are that they have alot of fillers. Animes like Bleach and Naruto. But they are still awesome. I may find it in me soon to try and continue watching them.
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Old 2011-08-11, 17:49   Link #89
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Talk about how anime nowadays has become pure otaku pandering and bad in general with a few exceptions is pointless, most people that refer to old school anime usually don't consider the fact that there were plenty of bad shows at that time too, due to their obscurity many of them are practically unknown to most people. It's true that today more anime are produced than before, the fact is though that they are not inferior nor superior to older shows. Trends change that's for sure, but I don't remember old school anime not having fanservice and nudity?

On topic, I don't think I'll get too old for watching anime. I'm 23 now and the only thing that might change is the amount of anime I watch in a certain period of time due to real life circumstances.
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Old 2011-08-11, 19:54   Link #90
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Talk about how anime nowadays has become pure otaku pandering and bad in general with a few exceptions is pointless, most people that refer to old school anime usually don't consider the fact that there were plenty of bad shows at that time too, due to their obscurity many of them are practically unknown to most people. It's true that today more anime are produced than before, the fact is though that they are not inferior nor superior to older shows. Trends change that's for sure, but I don't remember old school anime not having fanservice and nudity?

On topic, I don't think I'll get too old for watching anime. I'm 23 now and the only thing that might change is the amount of anime I watch in a certain period of time due to real life circumstances.
A lot of people forget that there was just as much pandering then, but it was a different kind of pandering. Obviously old school doesn't usually feature Moé, but there's plenty of cheap action and pulpy plots. Kind of like Exploitation fiction.

It had a much ... harder look. Anime these days tends to go for Cuteness. Only 12 year olds overly concerned with their testerone levels would we should go back blood spruting, gory and nudity filled anime of the 90s over the wussy cute stuff we have now. Then as now the best stuff has a decent balance. Though I'll admit I would prefer it if we had more quality Sci Fi. There was more Sci Fi produced then, as a proportion of Anime, back in the 90s, nothing right now that's up to the standard of Cowboy Bebop or Legend of the Galactic Heroes. But that's my own personal preference. There's lots about current anime that the 90s doesn't hold a candle to.
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Old 2011-08-12, 11:48   Link #91
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Talk about how anime nowadays has become pure otaku pandering and bad in general with a few exceptions is pointless, most people that refer to old school anime usually don't consider the fact that there were plenty of bad shows at that time too, due to their obscurity many of them are practically unknown to most people. It's true that today more anime are produced than before,s.
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But that's my own personal preference. There's lots about current anime that the 90s doesn't hold a candle to.
but that's not fair to say either because at the same time there's shows that are kickass shows from the 90s and 80s but are obscure and unknown (didn't get fansubbed/licensed at least in english or whatever ... who knows if they'll ever get fansubbed... at least in english.). just from that it's not fair to compare to the 90s.. there are some rare gems that are really good that didn't get subbed but obviosuly there's other obscure stuff that came in the 90s 80s that noboday knows about that are crappy. but ANYWAYS it's really unfortunate for the ones that are really GOOD even to the point of "classic" yet they're unknown/obscure. and then people think they know everything abt the 90/s80s just based on the ones that happened to get subbed/licensed/got popular (and apparently that's enough to judge the 90s and 80s anime) and doesn't even consider what might've slipped through the fansubbing pppl/licensing people.

by the way i think that ano hana (this shit is not sad and for gawd's sakes one of people's name is anal "anaru" and i cannot stand these soulless moe characters。。. i hate cheap pandering to otakus) and nichijou (did not laugh.. the one from kyo ani right?) are not worth watching fer sure but dont' know about the rest but seriously watch jungle wa itsumo hale nochi guu instead of nichijou and watch either JIN or watashitachi no kyoukasho (these are dramas) instead of ano hi mita hana~~tldr title.
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Old 2011-08-12, 14:25   Link #92
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but that's not fair to say either because at the same time there's shows that are kickass shows from the 90s and 80s but are obscure and unknown (didn't get fansubbed/licensed at least in english or whatever ... who knows if they'll ever get fansubbed... at least in english.). just from that it's not fair to compare to the 90s.. there are some rare gems that are really good that didn't get subbed but obviosuly there's other obscure stuff that came in the 90s 80s that noboday knows about that are crappy. but ANYWAYS it's really unfortunate for the ones that are really GOOD even to the point of "classic" yet they're unknown/obscure. and then people think they know everything abt the 90/s80s just based on the ones that happened to get subbed/licensed/got popular (and apparently that's enough to judge the 90s and 80s anime) and doesn't even consider what might've slipped through the fansubbing pppl/licensing people.

by the way i think that ano hana (this shit is not sad and for gawd's sakes one of people's name is anal "anaru" and i cannot stand these soulless moe characters。。. i hate cheap pandering to otakus) and nichijou (did not laugh.. the one from kyo ani right?) are not worth watching fer sure but dont' know about the rest but seriously watch jungle wa itsumo hale nochi guu instead of nichijou and watch either JIN or watashitachi no kyoukasho (these are dramas) instead of ano hi mita hana~~tldr title.
Eh, I don't think there are really any more obscure great 90s shows that are unknown to the community. A lot of the shows I've seen people talk about (3x3 eyes, Dragonball, Trigun, Yu Yu Hakusho, SlayerS...) I found quite dissapointing.

There wasn't as much Anime made in the 90s, so it makes sense that there's less good stuff. The only 90s shows I thought were outstanding were Evangelion, Legend of the Galactic Heroes, Cowboy Bebop, the Ghibli movies, and maybe Ghost in the Shell. Now I may have missed a few, but I doubt most of the rest of the 90s output were so good.

I would say more good anime came out in 2006 alone then in the whole of the 90s.

Isn't it weird that 2006 is FIVE years ago? I could swear Haruhi came out yesterday...
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Old 2011-08-12, 14:53   Link #93
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Nostalgia and familiarity is too powerful of a force to resist in most people. Old people are just used to old anime and young people are just used to new anime. Same thing can be said about musics, movies, or any other form of entertainment or perhaps even everything in any particular generation. Some transitions might take a few generations to make, but it is bound to happen nonetheless.

Or maybe the case is more analogous to this: some people are used to eating delicious high-class expensive foods in some frequented famous restaurants and refuse to eat in anything other than those, and some people are not very picky about what he eats and have explored a lot of restaurants in search of more obscure delicious foods.

Or maybe there are other possible examples, thus I propose that arguing "current anime is less/more blabla than the classics" or vice-versa or anything similar to that is a moot point. It is ultimately a subjective matter, and perhaps some other factors.
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Old 2011-08-22, 16:59   Link #94
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I've been really into watching anime ever since I was 18 & my liking/passion for it has just gotten even bigger & more intense over those past 10 years ever since to this very day & I don't ever see myself growing out of it fully, even when I hit my late 40's, well, I hope at least anyway, lol!
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Old 2011-08-22, 17:30   Link #95
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Thinking about it further, I think I can say that I've grown out of some anime, but not all. Generally I've grown out of the typical Shonen show (besides certain outstanding examples like Fullmetal Alchemist), teen romance and those that are aimed at teens.

Fortunately a great amount of Anime continues to be made that's aimed at an older audience, so I continue to find entertainment.
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Old 2011-08-22, 17:42   Link #96
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I've been watching anime since I was about four, but I've never really experienced, at any moment of my childhood really, a time where I believed I was 'growing out of anime.' Sure my interest for anime in general would wane here and there (it still does to this day), but I was always intrigued by the concepts most shows could come up with and the characters they could create.

I really found out when I was preteen, that it wasn't that I was getting bored of anime or thinking I was too old for it (an idea my mother tried desperately to drill in to my head so that I would feel ‘normal’ someday), but that I was becoming more interested in its source: the manga. I've ended up becoming more of an avid manga reader than an anime watcher—and with all the superhero movies they’ve been spitting out lately, I’ve slowly been consuming more comics as well, but that’s another story.

I know that some people do find themselves either hating anime one day or just wondering why they wasted their time with such a ‘childish’ hobby. Some people do. And I know that I’m still young and that one day, I may find myself saying something along those lines; but right now, I’m not. I still enjoy watching the occasional anime and reading tons of manga.

For those that do feel like they’re ‘growing out of anime’ I would suggest leaving it alone for awhile. In a couple of weeks, if you feel like watching that show again then I guess that means you’re not ready to quit (oh man, does that sound as bad as I think it does ); but if you don’t have that urge, don’t bother and do something else with your time. No one is forcing you to watch anime… or is there?
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Old 2011-08-22, 17:55   Link #97
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I think what people start hating anime is too many anime that aimed for small, specific group of people like ecchi, moe, yaoi rather than more general in term of demographics.

I also hate when some certain studios start milking otakus'(regardless what sub-species are they) money by making such shows.
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Old 2011-08-22, 18:24   Link #98
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The problem might be more that the only things that anime producers are familiar with are manga and other anime. This makes the industry increasingly incestuous. It also explains why a lot of anime have a hard time tackling complicated issues.
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Old 2011-08-22, 18:53   Link #99
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The problem might be more that the only things that anime producers are familiar with are manga and other anime. This makes the industry increasingly incestuous. It also explains why a lot of anime have a hard time tackling complicated issues.
Aye, though the continuing ability of the industry to come out with stuff that's very ... different continues to bring me back.

Most of the anime made out there is just more of the same, but usually one or two shows every season stand out and shine, and are totally different from anything you've seen before. It's one of the special things about Anime.

When Anime ceases to surprise me, only then might I leave. Until then...
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Old 2011-08-22, 22:10   Link #100
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It's true that today more anime are produced than before

Very misleading statement.

Production of hentai has increased, and production of 1 or 2 episode "series" have increased.

The number of anime produced with at least 3 episodes went down every year since the peak in 2006.

2010 had less 20+ episode anime than 1998 or 1999.

It isn't a stretch to say that the anime industry is responding to tough economic times and disappointing sales for some critically acclaimed (and popular here) series by shifting more towards porn and short shows aimed at the more reliable otaku audience.

Is quality suffering as a result? I would say so. But then, you have to remember that the series which we may consider some of the best ever, may not have sold well. So it would not make sense for the anime industry to keep making shows like that, when they have proven not to sell.
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