Little Busters - Game Discussion (Little Busters & Ecstasy!)

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by Stormwhite

And I tend to hit it to Rin if possible, but that's because I was trying to level her up to beat Sasasasesasegawaga Sasami. Basically hit it to anyone but Kyousuke, because his stats are high enough and Riki is useless as it is, until you beat a few routes. Oh, and the special balls don't do THAT much, so don't aim for cats =p

Yeah, actually, I've been wondering... how do I aim the ball? It's difficult enough as it is just to hit the thing sometimes.

Originally Posted by swtrooper42

My reaction exactly. And here I was thinking her route would be realistic.
I still love it for the angst though.

It didn't explain anything. Why does Kurugaya consider herself incapable of loving anyone? What the hell is up with her ridiculous physical strength? Was she really responsible for what happened?

God, I hope her second ending answers at least one of these questions.

[Rhapsody]

I'm going to ask my question here since no one has answered it in the other thread. Does every girl have a true ending that can only be accessed by beating Refrain like Kurugaya's?

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

It didn't explain anything. Why does Kurugaya consider herself incapable of loving anyone? What the hell is up with her ridiculous physical strength? Was she really responsible for what happened?

God, I hope her second ending answers at least one of these questions.

I actually got her second ending. I patched LB!EX and did something weird which let me skip far into her route lol. It didn't explain anything, it just has one more scene.

Kurugaya's route was nice. I liked it, but it was rather weak. It seemed like it was going somewhere but it seems that the story led you astray. I'm hoping that what happened in Kurugaya's route is somehow linked in Refrain. If not, it seems like they could've fleshed out her route way more. What happened was different than what I expected for the ending.

[Stormwhite]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

Yeah, actually, I've been wondering... how do I aim the ball? It's difficult enough as it is just to hit the thing sometimes.

Practice. Lots of practice.

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

It didn't explain anything. Why does Kurugaya consider herself incapable of loving anyone? What the hell is up with her ridiculous physical strength? Was she really responsible for what happened?

God, I hope her second ending answers at least one of these questions.

I doubt it, only the main heroine gets these questions answered! Although Rin is awesome, so I don't care much

[kyosak]

I couldn't be bothered to get 100% CG completion, but according to the guide I used, the only other route that has an extra after beating refrain is Kudo's. The rest just have their 'true ends' and 'bad ends' accessible from the beginning (and are far more straight-forward storywise).

As for Kurugaya's ending having anything to do with refrain... It will answer the question of why Kurugaya feels she shouldn't love Riki. But none of this is referred to in an obvious/satisfying way. It's just left up to the player to make the connections.

I guess the connection is there for Kurugaya and Kudo when I think back at it (these 2 had the strangest endings), but I honestly didn't look back at individual routes at the time I cleared refrain. These routes just are not the focus of the game. The connection is just stuff coming back to me at this moment, now that I look back at the game as a whole...

All of the individual routes (apart from Rin's) are 'what-if' scenarios after all... The main focus of the game is of course, Rin and the events in refrain.

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by Stormwhite

Although Rin is awesome, so I don't care much

I'm really not seeing this yet. Is her awesomeness something to do with her own route + Refrain, or just a matter of most people preferences?

I do like her, but she's certainly not "awesome" yet...

Originally Posted by kyosak

As for Kurugaya's ending having anything to do with refrain... It will answer the question of why Kurugaya feels she shouldn't love Riki.

Spoiler for question:

What about what the hell was up with no one hearing the lunchtime broadcasts? Or is that just something that was added to make everything even more confusing?

[Kudryavka]

We're tiptoeing on the spoiler borderline, so keep it "clean," please.

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

Yeah, actually, I've been wondering... how do I aim the ball? It's difficult enough as it is just to hit the thing sometimes.

The closer the ball is to the middle of the bat, the farther left it'll go. The closer it is to the tip, the fat end, the farther right it'll go. Moving Riki left or right will affect the ball in obvious ways, though it's hard to use this for much more than keeping up with Rin. I don't believe that moving forward and backward affect the ball's direction.

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by Komari

The closer the ball is to the middle of the bat, the farther left it'll go. The closer it is to the tip, the fat end, the farther right it'll go. Moving Riki left or right will affect the ball in obvious ways, though it's hard to use this for much more than keeping up with Rin. I don't believe that moving forward and backward affect the ball's direction.

Figured.

And moving up and down seems to only affect the ball when you're hitting it to the far right and the far left, from what I've experienced.

If you go down as far as you can, you probably won't be able to hit to anyone standing near the tree, for example.

[kyosak]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

Spoiler for question:

What about what the hell was up with no one hearing the lunchtime broadcasts? Or is that just something that was added to make everything even more confusing?

Spoiler for not really a spoiler:

Refrain won't provide you with answers to small details like this, but once you find out "the secret" after clearing refrain, you will be able to interpret her route in your own way that makes sense. I know this isn't much of an answer but this is all I can really say without spoiling anything.

Again, there is a huge "secret" that is revealed in Refrain which makes the main story very epic and helps to explain those retarded events that don't make much sense from the individual arcs (mostly referring to Kudo and Kurugaya).

[Stormwhite]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

I'm really not seeing this yet. Is her awesomeness something to do with her own route + Refrain, or just a matter of most people preferences?

I do like her, but she's certainly not "awesome" yet...

Eh, I've only played the translated routes, so that's just me :P

And holding the up key when ya hit the ball means it'll be a grounder, holding back means it'll be a fly ball.

[Aaerul]

Plenty of people tell me Refrain is totally worth playing and it's killing me.

Anyone know where I can find a 100% complete save data that will let me drop straight into Refrain mode (after some amount of Ctrl skipping I assume)? I've done Rin's semi-route and 80% through Mio's route but Maeda's writing just drags so much. I think playing the rest of the routes and unlocking it properly is out of the question for me. Please anyone can link me in a good direction or even PM me for the Save Data it would be MUCH appreciated.

[kyosak]

Originally Posted by Cosign

Plenty of people tell me Refrain is totally worth playing and it's killing me.

Anyone know where I can find a 100% complete save data that will let me drop straight into Refrain mode (after some amount of Ctrl skipping I assume)? I've done Rin's semi-route and 80% through Mio's route but Maeda's writing just drags so much. I think playing the rest of the routes and unlocking it properly is out of the question for me. Please anyone can link me in a good direction or even PM me for the Save Data it would be MUCH appreciated.

I found this link for a save file on HongFire but I haven't tried it myself:

http://fooltrap.net/r/lb_ex.zip

To be fair about the writing, Maeda only worked on Rin and Saya's routes and Refrain (which were the only ones I really enjoyed). The rest were written by some of the newer writers...

[Aaerul]

Originally Posted by kyosak

I found this link for a save file on HongFire but I haven't tried it myself:

http://fooltrap.net/r/lb_ex.zip

To be fair about the writing, Maeda only worked on Rin and Saya's routes and Refrain (which were the only ones I really enjoyed). The rest were written by some of the newer writers...

Thank you~! Loaded it up and it seems to be working fine.

Also thanks for the clarification. really explains things up.

[Jze0]

Just finished the tranlated Kurugaya route and man am I pissed and sad at the same time. Its not that it was bad or anything but it just left so many questions unanswered and its also plain depressing. I was hoping for some kind of good ending but that last CG made me want to cry.

Anyway I hope Refrain answers most of these questions and the mystery surrounding the world judging from some of the comments here.

[morphex]

Hello, i want to ask is there any guide or walkthrough in english? I just started the game and like it very much but its hard to play without walkthrought.

I also need help with battle system, what exactly i should do here in combat?

Thanks for help

[HashiriyaR32]

Since I was bored, I decided to cruise by the IMFDB page for "Little Busters!", where I not only learned that Saya has more firearms than just her signature double-action 1911, but this image came up.

Spoiler for Possible spoiler?:

I seriously do not understand the meaning of this as I dropped the game maybe an hour or two into my first playthrough.

[Kudryavka]

Originally Posted by HashiriyaR32

Since I was bored, I decided to cruise by the IMFDB page for "Little Busters!", where I not only learned that Saya has more firearms than just her signature double-action 1911, but this image came up.

I seriously do not understand the meaning of this as I dropped the game maybe an hour or two into my first playthrough.

I saw this in the CG pack, and I was wondering about it, too.

Spoiler for possible spoiler:

Why does Saya have no skirt on? I guess that girl in the middle is probably

Spoiler for a definite spoiler:

Saya as she appears in the real world, a shy and weak girl

but this image still takes me for a spin. Were Saya and Riki getting it on, and the girl walked in on them??

Originally Posted by morphex

Hello, i want to ask is there any guide or walkthrough in english? I just started the game and like it very much but its hard to play without walkthrought.

I also need help with battle system, what exactly i should do here in combat?

Thanks for help

If you want to win battles, you'll need to collect items and get Riki's stats up. You improve the stats through baseball practice, and you can get items from other characters. If you have Battle Ranking on, Wander whenever you can; sometimes you'll run into characters who will either give you items or trade items with you. You can get free items from Masato by choosing Play with Masato whenever the choice comes up during class. Not all items are beneficial; in one of my playthroughs, Kurugaya kept lugging the item Someone's Bra around, and it lowered her stats in every battle.

I know there's a walkthrough around here in either this thread or the English Translation Project for Little Busters thread. It's in Japanese, though; I wouldn't expect an English one until the English patch is done.

[blitz1/2]

Originally Posted by HashiriyaR32

Since I was bored, I decided to cruise by the IMFDB page for "Little Busters!", where I not only learned that Saya has more firearms than just her signature double-action 1911, but this image came up.

Spoiler for Possible spoiler?:

I seriously do not understand the meaning of this as I dropped the game maybe an hour or two into my first playthrough.

I thought it was Riki disguising as Saya (note: I NEVER played the game!) by taking her skirt. xD

[kyosak]

Originally Posted by blitz1/2

I thought it was Riki disguising as Saya (note: I NEVER played the game!) by taking her skirt. xD

Spoiler for :

You are right.

[Wintereise]

I just started on it, entering Rin's first route, let's see how this goes :3
Won the match in like my 8th try >_>
Got lucky, heh

[Kudryavka]

Originally Posted by kyosak

Spoiler for :

You are right.

Spoiler for h:

Then who's the other dude?