One Piece - Chapter 537 [Manga]

[Master Mold]

Originally Posted by Wolcik

Maybe Hannybal focus on his ambition more when he's around Magellan - so he thought of his position more than about Hankock.

Your not serious, but just in case your are, Hannybal meet Boa when the Magellan was not around, and didn't turn into a lust dog.

[aohige]

Originally Posted by C.A.

Well, the hormones not only modified him physically, but also changed the brain structure. Science has shown that male and female brains are fundamentally, structurally different, so they think, behave and speak differently.

But anyway, I think I could join the New-Kama society, see that I've been carrying my sig for a while, is a Seitenkan follower and have always loved traps as well.

Ignore gender and kick sexuality to the curb!!

No what I mean is, in Japanese, there words you use and speech you use itself is literally diffrent between genders.
Hormones don't explain why you suddenly start using speech you're not used to using everyday life.

Think of it like if someone suddenly turned you into hispanic, and your speech turned into spanish-accent English.

[Master Mold]

Have you guys checked out bleach lately, if Impel Down had monsters like that, running around and finishing off other monstrous prisoners etc etc, it would be living up to there R.E.P. but now thats not the case, Guess some one needs, to take a trip to Bell Air, after the last chapter.

[holypanl]

Originally Posted by Phenomenal

Does anyone else not feel this but me...? I mean...No one has mentioned how Impel Down the so called Impenetrable inescapable prison of the entire One Piece world entire reputation has been shot by not only having Luffy sprint through levels like a track meet but having an Okama party below? Then I wake up to more crap by having Hannyabal getting played by a Bon Clay simple-minded diversion? From what I've seen Impel Down's guards and so called "heads" are made to look like fools. Seriously the only one's that did its job in this prison was the Minatarous and Magellan.

Yeah, I feel it, but to a lesser extent, and for slightly different reasons. I don't understand how a cannon can be shot in a prison, and nobody hears it. Not only was it shot, but it also, fro the image, exploded.

Nooope. Nobody heard THAT.

Nonsense. I don't like it one bit. Luffy did also take the prison completely unseriously. But I suppose that was healed by the fact that he got EASILY beat up by Magellan.

But it's disappointing that the WHOLE prison isn't full of people of Magellan's caliber. Sadi-chan looks like the typical beast trainer type character, who is weak once you beat up the monsters.

How could there be hundreds of Okamas living in the prison roaming free and nobody knows it???!!!

[Animizzle]

I personally thought the sudden appeareance of Ivankov attacker was a bunch of crap. I mean, sure Oda has to use some plot device to show us Ivankov's power but that dude suddenly appearing on a super-secret level (which is silly by itself as many pointed out) completely with a handcanon. Give me a freaking break.

A random Okama telling Bon-chan about it or some poor ID-guard that has been captured would be more believable...

[Phenomenal]

Originally Posted by holypanl

Yeah, I feel it, but to a lesser extent, and for slightly different reasons. I don't understand how a cannon can be shot in a prison, and nobody hears it. Not only was it shot, but it also, fro the image, exploded.

Nooope. Nobody heard THAT.

Nonsense. I don't like it one bit. Luffy did also take the prison completely unseriously. But I suppose that was healed by the fact that he got EASILY beat up by Magellan.

But it's disappointing that the WHOLE prison isn't full of people of Magellan's caliber. Sadi-chan looks like the typical beast trainer type character, who is weak once you beat up the monsters.

How could there be hundreds of Okamas living in the prison roaming free and nobody knows it???!!!

Yeah Agreed.^^^

@MarvelB: I agree that the prison is doing something right as well but I'm just playing devil's advocate. Throwing a wrench in the convo giving you guys/gals something to think about. We can't let this discussion be all about how great you guys think the Okamas are now can we.

[Kafriel]

It seems that people are forgetting the actual SIZE of ID, that place is big enough to have freakin forests in it (even if they're made of steel), and the fact that level 5.5 is secret means that Ivankov can do more than bend people's genders...

[Phenomenal]

I think I realized that though....

[marvelB]

So... since we know that Iva can reverse people's genders, does anyone think that this will lead to Luffy's next gimmicky "battle form"? We had Water Luffy for Crocodile, Gomu Gomu no Baka for Eneru, Afro Luffy for Foxy, and Nightmare Luffy for Moria, so.... maybe the next step would be Girly Luffy for Magellan? Honestly, I'd rather not see another power-up spawned from a plot device, but at this point, it's definitely possible.....

[aohige]

gomu gomu no oppai bazooka.

Spoiler for NSFW:

Edit:
gomu gomu no oppai pistol.


Star added by yours truely to avoid ban.

[Master Mold]

Originally Posted by marvelB

So... since we know that Iva can reverse people's genders, does anyone think that this will lead to Luffy's next gimmicky "battle form"? We had Water Luffy for Crocodile, Gomu Gomu no Baka for Eneru, Afro Luffy for Foxy, and Nightmare Luffy for Moria, so.... maybe the next step would be Girly Luffy for Magellan? Honestly, I'd rather not see another power-up spawned from a plot device, but at this point, it's definitely possible.....

Well, the power ups usually fail, so I don't have a problem with them.
I'm thinking Girly Luffy will be nothing but a gag that will drag a bit, not so much something that will battle against Poison man.

[james0246]

Originally Posted by Phenomenal

Yeah Agreed.^^^

@MarvelB: I agree that the prison is doing something right as well but I'm just playing devil's advocate. Throwing a wrench in the convo giving you guys/gals something to think about. We can't let this discussion be all about how great you guys think the Okamas are now can we.

Honestly, this is more or less what I expected Impel Down to be like. Truly Horrific things only happen in the past in the One Piece Universe, so I never expected Impell Down to be too bad.

To put it in perspective, just look at Enies Lobby and the Tower of Justice/Gate of Justice: every single prisoner that enters the tower is immediately found guilty and sentenced to life in prison (added to that, this is the place that Tom was sent before being escorted to Impel Down, etc). Sounds pretty harsh right? Only, as we eventually learn, the place is run by a buffoon (Spamdam), and the main Judge is a complete freak (Three-Headed Baskerville) and even the CP9 joke around while hanging out in the location.

Or, how about Thriller Bark and the Florian Triangle. Sure they start off sounding ominous and scary, but after their introduction, the fear quickly fades, replaced entirely with the basic sense of adventure that the entire series emphasizes constantly.

In the end, there is no truly horrific location that Luffy and company will ever go to, just strange places with evil people who are hell bent on ruining their good time.

That being said, Okamas have always been cool, and they always will be cool .

[FoxxFireArt]

Originally Posted by james0246

Honestly, this is more or less what I expected Impel Down to be like. Truly Horrific things only happen in the past in the One Piece Universe, so I never expected Impell Down to be too bad.

To put it in perspective, just look at Enies Lobby and the Tower of Justice/Gate of Justice: every single prisoner that enters the tower is immediately found guilty and sentenced to life in prison (added to that, this is the place that Tom was sent before being escorted to Impel Down, etc). Sounds pretty harsh right? Only, as we eventually learn, the place is run by a buffoon (Spamdam), and the main Judge is a complete freak (Three-Headed Baskerville) and even the CP9 joke around while hanging out in the location.

Or, how about Thriller Bark and the Florian Triangle. Sure they start off sounding ominous and scary, but after their introduction, the fear quickly fades, replaced entirely with the basic sense of adventure that the entire series emphasizes constantly.

In the end, there is no truly horrific location that Luffy and company will ever go to, just strange places with evil people who are hell bent on ruining their good time.

That being said, Okamas have always been cool, and they always will be cool .

Don't forget that there are more dangers to Florian Triangle then Thriller Bark. There was that giant shadow that we saw just as the Straw Hat crew was leaving.

I'm still thinking Ivankof was originally based of Frankenfurter. The outfit and hair is the same.

[kari-no-sugata]

I would be more concerned about the existence of Level 5.5 if the series took itself more seriously or if the prisoners were much more ordinary. Iwa is said to be a miracle worker and given that many of the prisoners are likely from Level 5, many of them probably have special powers. Level 5.5 / "New Kama Land" has only just been introduced as well.

Complaining about implausibility in One Piece does seem to be missing the point a bit (unless it breaks internal consistency). I actually like tightly written stories and tend to spot so many real/actual flaws in many stories that it tends to ruin the enjoyment - so I *try* to give the author the benefit of the doubt (within reason of course). If I don't like a story, I'll stop reading / watching it.

So, personally, my main thoughts around Iwa and the others there, is how will they react when Luffy (or Bon-chan) takes action that could possibly threaten their current cosy little life. They might deem it a low risk and let them leave. They might deem it a high risk and try to keep them there. They might want to break out themselves and decided to aid Luffy. Or something else.

The story has been developing at quite a high pace, so this could become a big issue as soon as the next chapter.

[Master Mold]

Originally Posted by FoxxFireArt

Don't forget that there are more dangers to Florian Triangle then Thriller Bark. There was that giant shadow that we saw just as the Straw Hat crew was leaving.

Wasn't that a Sea King?

[Phenomenal]

Originally Posted by james0246

Honestly, this is more or less what I expected Impel Down to be like. Truly Horrific things only happen in the past in the One Piece Universe, so I never expected Impell Down to be too bad.

To put it in perspective, just look at Enies Lobby and the Tower of Justice/Gate of Justice: every single prisoner that enters the tower is immediately found guilty and sentenced to life in prison (added to that, this is the place that Tom was sent before being escorted to Impel Down, etc). Sounds pretty harsh right? Only, as we eventually learn, the place is run by a buffoon (Spamdam), and the main Judge is a complete freak (Three-Headed Baskerville) and even the CP9 joke around while hanging out in the location.

Or, how about Thriller Bark and the Florian Triangle. Sure they start off sounding ominous and scary, but after their introduction, the fear quickly fades, replaced entirely with the basic sense of adventure that the entire series emphasizes constantly.

In the end, there is no truly horrific location that Luffy and company will ever go to, just strange places with evil people who are hell bent on ruining their good time.

Indeed. I did want the prison to be tight though, but it isn't cool anymore [hasn't been for a while].

That being said, Okamas have always been cool, and they always will be cool .

Well....God loves them too....

[james0246]

Originally Posted by JINBEI

Wasn't that a Sea King?

It was Mohmoo's mother .

Originally Posted by Phenomenal

Well....God loves them too....

...Okamas are made in God's image.

(Barney loves them as well...)

[Master Mold]

Originally Posted by james0246

It was Mohmoo's mother .

Lol, speaking of that.

Jinbei better have something as Epic as Arlongs Mohmoo.

[marvelB]

Originally Posted by aohige

gomu gomu no oppai bazooka.

Spoiler for NSFW:

Edit:
gomu gomu no oppai pistol.


Star added by yours truely to avoid ban.

Heh, Girly Luffy would be so totally worth it if (s)he had a move like that! Sadly, this probably won't happen in a shonen series.....


Anyway, it's not like I hate those arc-specific power-ups or anything (heck, I love Afro Luffy ). It's just that I think it would be nice to see Luffy take down a powerful opponent without resorting to some goofy gimmick for a change (the Gears are exceptions since they weren't something that he came up with on the spur of the moment). It should especially be prudent for him to do so now that we've learned that he possesses the "King's Haki". Hopefully, our future Pirate King will answer our prayers by the time he reaches the New World.....

[iKumdo]

Originally Posted by Rainbowman

Indeed Ivankov's gender changing powers could prove useful. Also it would be a highlight if any new members were born under Gemini.

@ james0246: movie 10 may or may not feature any of the new members at that time according to the trailer.

I don't think he could have his hormones reversed when he no longer has any hormonal glands.