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Well in all honesty, I am generally not for an eye for an eye approach. For example I don't think the death punishment to be of any use. But I think some people lack the understanding for how others feel or they lack the abilty to put oneself in someone's place. But I guess if they actually experienced what they do to others themselves, then they can realize how it is to be treated like that.
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2009-09-30, 03:16 | Link #82 | |
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2009-09-30, 04:33 | Link #83 | |
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2009-09-30, 07:03 | Link #86 | |
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2009-09-30, 07:10 | Link #87 | |
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Beside that, and from what I read, I only know that when Polanski and the prosecution made that lenient deal, samantha's parents recieved compensation from Polanski. How much? I don't know. |
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2009-09-30, 07:20 | Link #88 | |
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Second, attitudes toward pedophilia have if anything hardened since Polanski went to trial. There will be a lot of public pressure to throw the book at Polanski if he's extradited, pressures that easily be exploited by politicians hoping to gain support among the "think of the children" crowd.
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2009-09-30, 07:30 | Link #89 | ||
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I repost my previous message, after that my parents asked me to remove many parts of it to avoid "possible" problems.
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- Gave compensation to his victim (he actually did during the deal, but no one knows how much he offered to the victim's parents) - That the trial was unfair to the victim till the judge thought about overturning it (that's when Polanski fled, duh). Anyway............. another proof that the politicians, and many actors and directors think they are the center of the world, the voice of everyone, while tyhe public opinion is a complete opposite: It actually is turning that MOST people from Poland are AGAINST Polanski! Yes, that's right, his own people from Poland are just disgusted and want justice too. Now the politicians in Poland try to shut up since a survey revealed that the big majority of people in Poland want Polanski to be extradited (and judged) for his crime I suggest you to read this news, Polish People are NOT on Polanski side. It's very interesting. I bolded the important parts: http://a.abcnews.com/m/screen?id=8701191&pid=76 Spoiler for Polish public reaction:
Now about France. I am waiting for a national survey, but at least right now, you will find very few web survey that defend Polanski. French public opinion is the same as Poland, Polanski needs to pay, and he actually got an lenient sentence at his first trial. There are also french artists who don't defend Polanski, for example, the internationaly famous director Luc Besson who wants the justice to be the same for everyone, whether your rich or poor: http://www.liberation.fr/culture/010...-tour-le-monde |
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2009-09-30, 07:40 | Link #90 | ||
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(Although if people have copies of his working papers on-line that lists why he was planning to add more jail time, that would be very helpful. ) As for the chemical castration change in Polish law, yes, I went back yesterday to edit my original post when I read the news article. Quote:
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2009-09-30, 10:37 | Link #91 | ||
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People really need to understand that it does not matter how much time has passed between the incident and the arrest. Having sex with minors does not fall under the statute of limitation in the USA so any argument with "30 years later is too late" has no merit at all. Just because 30 years have passed and the victim has forgiven him does ABSOLUTELY NOT mean that Polanski should not be judged. And by judged I mean the usual punishment of 50 years in jail in the USA. The same goes for the argument that "it was only a one time mistake and he has proven not to be a repetual offender" thing. So what? By saying this you just have accepted that any criminal, no matter how serious the crime, should not be punished if he doesnt do it a second time. Why do we have have laws then? Roman Polanski does not stand above the law and has to be judged like every other criminal as well. It does not matter if he had a sad past. It does not matter if he is a famous director. It does not matter if the victim has forgiven him. Arresting Polanski was the only correct thing the police could have done. |
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2009-09-30, 11:04 | Link #92 |
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Here for those who want to know who are these stupid artist who defend a rapist :
http://www.sacd.fr/Le-cinema-soutien...ki.1340.0.html These artist who tell us "No you can't download for free, it's illegal !! It's baaaaaad " tell us here that we need to protect a rapist ?!!! Personnaly, I will boycott every products of these stupid peoples
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2009-09-30, 13:45 | Link #100 | |
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Money and power *do* influence much of what people can get away with. The laws are on the paper yes, and those laws don't say "here's the exception", but society has to enforce those laws, or they're just words on paper. The US has had decades of opportunities to extradite Polanski and charge him, why they chose to act now is anyone's guess. One thing to keep in mind is that in 30 years, sex laws have become incredibly strict in the US (to the point of sheer absurdity in most cases), largely in part to our extreme conservatism and hypocrisy regarding sexuality. It's possible that the prosecutors revisited this case to score another notch on their belt, and they're backed by officials eager to point out the "horrible sex criminal" who justifies their reasons for the tougher laws. Now that doesn't mean I find Polanski innocent. However, he was forgiven by the victim and he is very old. What sentence could he possibly be given at this point that would hold any meaning? People who wish for eye for an eye justice just end up going blind.
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