2013-02-16, 11:30 | Link #2201 |
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Character is a shell. Author gives it personality and reason as to why it is that way. However, authors usually explore only specific time period. Anything could happen after that.
Besides characters are meant to satisfy fans. While I don't like total OOcness, I don't mind it if there is some base behind. Of course when it takes over the real personality it is annoying. Homura might be portrayed as perv but she is also portrayed properly so it kinda balances each other out. If you don't like panty Homura thief, just don't look at those images. There are thousands of normal ones
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If people want to fantasize about a pervy Homura, then that's their choice, but let's not pretend there's any canon basis for it whatsoever. Because there isn't. It is pure 100% fabrication/speculation. Quote:
Also, people have every right to voice criticisms of images of their favorite characters that they dislike and consider OOC for that character.
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2013-02-16, 12:05 | Link #2203 |
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Come on, it is not your first time entering fanbase community. Shit like this is in every fandom, you really should have been used to it by now. Otherwise I have no idea what you are doing on internet.
Just skip through those images, it's not like you are forced to stare at them for hours. Download all the stuff you like and then look through your folder as much as you want. Fandom is meant to satisfy everyone. It is your right not to like them but you can't force people to stop drawing them either. And no, human can make a 180 degree change in character. There are a lot of people who were nice and sweet and then turned into serial killers and so on. Homura could be anyone in 20 years depending on what happens in her life. Panty Homura is simply a comedic take on her affection towards Madoka. If Madoka series were a comedy, that's how she most likely would be. Take a look at F/SN series and its famous Parody Carnival Phantasm. Creators themselves are over exaggerating over characters personalities. Its normal. Its your right not to like it, but it is normal for things like that to happen. That's why fandoms exist in the first place and I personally would love to see what people would do with my characters. Would I actually like their take or not is a different story but I'm curious to see how big would be my fanbase imagination.
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Yes, many anime shows have their share of silly/dumb fanimagery, and I accept that. But such imagery typically doesn't turn into memes that twist and distort the perception of major characters like this. That is unusual. It is at least part of the reason why Shyni has reservations about Madoka Magica (or at least its fandom), which as a Madoka Magica fan is naturally disheartening to me. There are practical reasons for disliking the Pantyhead Homura meme and for expressing that dislike. Quote:
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2013-02-16, 12:50 | Link #2205 |
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You are simply taking fandom way too seriously.
How would you show Homura's affection towards Madoka in a comedy setting then? In a Japanese anime/comedy. I'll put myself as an example then. Years ago I was seen as a biggest crybaby on earth and was constantly made fun of and bullied. Now years later I'm seen as a thick, unbreakable wall that is always happy and doesn't give a damn. I'm sometimes called as a "bully" too but in positive way. That's pretty much a 180 degree change right here. And I'm living a normal life. Characters usually don't so their changes would be more significant. Those characters might not have panty memes but they have other memes beside their style of animations is also different what would make fandom different as well. This meme might be pushing you away but for others it might be the main hook to watch the series. Fandom is mean to satisfy all sides.
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When a fandom actually starts turning off potential viewers/new fans (especially when it does so with fanart, which ought to help an anime's perception if anything), then I think it's warranted to take that fandom seriously.
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Madoka Magica is *not* YuruYuri. If you go into Madoka Magica expecting YuruYuri then you will almost certainly be sorely disappointed. Note: It's clear that you yourself take fandoms pretty seriously, or you would not be carrying on this debate with me to this extent. You can't say that you're not taking fandoms seriously if you feel this compelled to defend fandoms from even the slightest of criticism.
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2013-02-16, 13:30 | Link #2207 |
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Well I personally can't stand Zutara fandom as well as Makorra fandom from Avatar series, they are a complete push away for me because those fandoms tend to ruin the characters. However, there is nothing I can do about it except skip through the stuff.
I'm big Azula fan but usually Azula fans tend to turn Zuko into a heartless maniac what I also don't accept. To make my own life easier, I just skip through this stuff and pretend that I didn't see it unless it seriously went overboard and I want to make some corrections. So I fully understand where you are coming from. But sadly you can't do much about it except letting your emotions out from time to time. Nice image, I like it. Though if I have to be serious it still make Homura look a bit silly That really depends... in order for change to happen you need to want it. It also depends on things and people you encounter. If you try to change your life in one way or another, it will. Sometimes it changes without you wanting it. Actually now that I think about it, Homura herself is a perfect example to my words. At first she was a shy crybaby but gradually after everything that happened she turned into a strong and cool personality. She is a living proof to my words about 180 degree personality change, especially when it comes to fictional characters. Anyway talking about this won't really achieve much. We can bitch as much as we want but nothing will change Though it is nice to let steam out from time to time
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2013-02-16, 13:38 | Link #2208 | |
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But more to the point, since you've asked how else to comically render her affection towards Madoka, the simple "SHE IS MY WIFE!" is quite common, as would be trying to offer herself as a valentine's gift. To be quite honest, I've only seen one other character actually wearing panties on their head, and that was Dragonball's Oolong. Do you really want Homura to be associated with a literal pig?
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To be clear, I fully expect the pantyhead Homura meme to continue. But I think it's important for newcomers to a show to know when fanart doesn't really reflect a character. Partly so that expectations don't get out of whack, and also so people aren't turned away from shows that they'd actually like if they gave it a chance. Edit: Oolong would be the perfect boyfriend for fanart Homura.
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2013-02-16, 13:41 | Link #2210 |
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Why are people trying to characterize and explain fandom tendencies here
It's like trying to explain a crazy person's mind, it is impossible unless you are him. Fans do lots of strange, crazy things. Should I even get into the dark side of My Little Pony fandom? |
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You don't seem to check a lot of images since a lot of that stuff is shown too. Homura's affection for Madoka was the main reason as to why she even became a time travelling magical girl and started to stock up with all the stuff so picking on it is the most obvious thing to do. Quote:
If people are pushed away by weird art works, it is a right choice to tell them that they are misunderstanding.
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But yeah, to put this thread back on-track... I was never really able to get into One Piece. Apart from my issues with its art style, I thought the show should have had, well, more actual pirating.
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2013-02-16, 14:12 | Link #2215 |
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I only started it, am at episode 18 but can't say that I have seen anything really unique so far either.
Art style is a bit of a push away too and Luffy seems a bit too stupid... well actually it is a bit hard to find smart charas there.
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I can't feel the sadness looking that those faces..... Last edited by NoemiChan; 2013-02-17 at 08:10. |
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